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Was on paradise glacier on 19th. Was solo except for the wolf pack I encountered. Very unnerving. Took a break at toe of glacier and then about 20 minutes into hike up open glacier, I saw 6 wolves come over from Cowlitz side. They checked out my break spot and continued down into Edith Valley. Crazy cool experience, but a little nervous of a close encounter.
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Wow awesome video Lowell.would love to see the 33 min. Version...so are they using kick wax or skins...looks like pretty good glide and grip.
The Hesseys were expert waxers.
Wow awesome video Lowell.would love to see the 33 min. Version...so are they using kick wax or skins...looks like pretty good glide and grip.
Also noteworthy that the ridge north of Chiwawa's summit was known as "Hanging Glacier Peak" to the Hesseys when they skied here in the 1950s. No glacier on that peak anymore.
A short film clip can be viewed here:
http://www.alpenglow.org/mountaineers-history/notes/movie/hessey-1956-skiing-cascwild.html
A short film clip can be viewed here:
http://www.alpenglow.org/mountaineers-history/notes/movie/hessey-1956-skiing-cascwild.html
Here's that older picture, apparently taken in autumn. I think it was taken around 1900.

To my eye, it appears that there's a good connection between the upper and lower glacier, which would enable the glacier below the firn line to survive. That's been gone for a long time, it seems.

To my eye, it appears that there's a good connection between the upper and lower glacier, which would enable the glacier below the firn line to survive. That's been gone for a long time, it seems.
Gosh, you could water-ski on that thing.
Here's the full extent of the lake from the same day. A quick glassing of it on Google Earth has me guessing the lake is 2000' in length now?
I have several historic glacier photos that were forwarded to me by Mauri Pelto, head of the North Cascades Glacier Climate Project. (The photos have been added to the Mountaineers Archives.)
It's interesting to note that significant recession of the Lyman Glacier had already occurred before 1940. I think it reflected the passing of the "Little Ice Age" that ended in the 1800s. But things seem to have accelerated since then.
It's interesting to note that significant recession of the Lyman Glacier had already occurred before 1940. I think it reflected the passing of the "Little Ice Age" that ended in the 1800s. But things seem to have accelerated since then.
Sweet trip report and pics. Glad to see you guys getting it in July
Sad to see how the glacier has receded in recent years. Cool that members of this community have such great photos for reference.
Sad to see how the glacier has receded in recent years. Cool that members of this community have such great photos for reference.
I have two to add:
1989 - My memory said 30-40 feet thick, but I see that was an exaggeration:

This book was published in 1985. Maybe the photo is one of Lowell's!

1989 - My memory said 30-40 feet thick, but I see that was an exaggeration:

This book was published in 1985. Maybe the photo is one of Lowell's!

Really cool/sad pictures. I'll add another from Sept. 2007.
Thanks for the old down valley photos and the note from the paper, Lowell. Good stuff. Here's another 24 SEP 2018 picture to pair with yours. As you said, lots of decline on that lower glacier.
Great report Mike!
You probably know that the Spider and Lyman Glaciers have hosted summer skiing for a long time. This article from an old Wenatchee Ski Club scrapbook gives a sense of how long. I copied it during a visit with Wilfred Woods in 2007.

Your pictures of the Lyman glacier make me think of early visits there. Here are some pictures from a climb of Chiwawa in September 1980.<...
You probably know that the Spider and Lyman Glaciers have hosted summer skiing for a long time. This article from an old Wenatchee Ski Club scrapbook gives a sense of how long. I copied it during a visit with Wilfred Woods in 2007.
Your pictures of the Lyman glacier make me think of early visits there. Here are some pictures from a climb of Chiwawa in September 1980.<...
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Mike,
You'll have to write me next year to join. I need to visit that glacier yet ;)
It's on my calendar. Mar 20. Call Hummel about Lyman Gl.
Looking forward to it!
Mike,
You'll have to write me next year to join. I need to visit that glacier yet ;)
You'll have to write me next year to join. I need to visit that glacier yet ;)
That's great....thanks for the report
Boy, Nick, you hit it just right! And Randy - Sumo Marmots! I've never seen that behavior before. That was amazing, thanks for the treat of that video!
Wow that sounds like a fantastic day.
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Hey Mike - glad you and Jamie ran into Paul! Dude is the best. As a heads up, you're likely seeing the seasonal sluffing of the lower glacier's névé snow. Here's a picture from last September 24, 2018. Note that it's pretty darn bare much higher.
I'm in agreement, it's in recession, but maybe not as acutely from this instance.
Hey Mike - glad you and Jamie ran into Paul! Dude is the best. As a heads up, you're likely seeing the seasonal sluffing of the lower glacier's névé snow. Here's a picture from last September 24, 2018. Note that it's pretty darn bare much higher.
I'm in agreement, it's in recession, but maybe not as acutely from this instance.
I'm in agreement, it's in recession, but maybe not as acutely from this instance.
Nick, thanks for the snow info about the "walk" from the car to the "chair."
Randy,the videos and photo are GREAT. Timing to see the "fight". ;)
Randy,the videos and photo are GREAT. Timing to see the "fight". ;)
That was YoYo and I that you saw.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/wmakXtMgDetWsUjg7
https://photos.app.goo.gl/6wxJP2kyczNk6CBw9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/tkM6d83eegg7V9e67
https://photos.app.goo.gl/wmakXtMgDetWsUjg7
https://photos.app.goo.gl/6wxJP2kyczNk6CBw9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/tkM6d83eegg7V9e67
Awesome....pretty smooth up there it sounds..way to hit it...btw any ideas for lassen north side?
Ha.. I actually was wondering who this guy was. do recall you saying you where not very gregarious. Nice work!
Did three laps on the moraine... Independence Day...what a hoot!!
Share the love, excellent!
It is "the story" that we appreciate and the photos.
Well done. ;)
Zap
Well done. ;)
Zap
I did this on 6/30 with same outcome. It was nice to head back through Knapsack Pass since one could traverse the boulder field on skis. Pretty dusty drive down as road dried out during the day.
Thanks for the update...think I'll burn some fat tomorrowðŸ˜
Wow..that's right up there with the sick DOD video...thanks for posting.. that's a pretty long run considering your speed!!!!
Nice turns and what a group you ran into! Lugging a car battery(?) and fence in addition to their food is quite the effort!
Excellent! And gosh, the danger you put yourself in! You should be ashamed! ;)
This looks stunning! Hope to get up there late this week or early next week. Thanks!
Yep ! Classic. So many good long trips up there.
There is another "guide" over this way, I work cheap too......................... ;)
I heard the Rockies got dumped on..way to be ready and get after it... Keep the reports coming!!!
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7000' of car to car at Shasta is a dream we hope to realize next month if the super Sierra snowpack remains.
The word from Amar is that it's in great shape, and the Hotlum-Wintun is now approachable within 1 mile of the trailhead. Weather is looking good next week!
I remember the days of your Trip Reports in the NW. ;)
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Good on you for venturing over. The runs aren't too long but there is the scenery!
I agree ! We would climb and ski and look over to Vancouver Island and see many of the "spots" we would fish for salmon and halibut. The days of our 19' GlasPly boat. ;)
Good on you for venturing over. The runs aren't too long but there is the scenery!
I've had September powder in the Rockies, and I've heard tale and seen pictures of August "powder" along the Divide after a storm. But I think the most evasive of all new-snow sirens are the July Powder turns. Not hail, real 2-4" base+ of new snow. Unicorn stuff.
In the Northern hemisphere.
In the Northern hemisphere.
The photo reminds me of our trip in 2015.
http://www.turns-all-year.com/skiing_snowboarding/trip_reports/index.php?topic=34363.0
Your trip is great. ;)
http://www.turns-all-year.com/skiing_snowboarding/trip_reports/index.php?topic=34363.0
Your trip is great. ;)
Awesome! The hazard the ranger failed to mention is the relationship cost of disappearing for a day from your family vacation! 20 minutes is a pretty short walk from the car. Sounds like you timed it just right.