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Nice to see a Morrow trip report :) .

Love the sound of the birds in the forest this time of year. Especially that signature buzz of the varied thrush

Adventurous trip.  On more than a few days this season the by-far best snow of the tour has been at very low elevations on what you'd typically think of as the exit rather than the main event. 

So weird. Something must've gotten into his meth.

Yeah, Davis looks like an excellent corn ski. So I guess the sno park is more full mid winter with sledders when the grooming is still going. I thought the warm temps and crusty snow might cause the machines to overheat some.

The grooming on the road ended for the season the weekend prior and the temps had spiked for a couple days before, so all the sledders bailed. The weekend prior all the sno park lots were full and sledders were plentiful. Check out Davis Peak next time you're out there.  Has good corn in the spring and some nice N facing coolies off the east side, that terminate near the river level.  And a very shore approach for a cardio machine, like you.  

On his website Seth

https://engineeredforadventure.com/tube-of-terror-pipe-dream/

I think this is the third person I've heard of getting death threats from this guy.

Aaron you were the first people we passed (more like got passed by) all day! Looks like you found some great stuff back there!

I passed you guys on your way out, on the whooped out road.  Thought I recognized you Kyle from your TRs.  Should have stopped to say hi, but we had been smashing pow in the alpine all day and I was dreaming of my beer at the the truck, just minutes away via sled. Your reach on foot is truly remarkable.  Far beyond the average skier.  

 

Jim: "Over the years many of us quit doing detailed and photo filled TRs and just posted a quick conditions report for a general area (north slopes around Stevens Pass, etc.) to help others in planning. I certainly appreciated that myself."

Hi Jim, I too thought that was a nice middle ground that helped in planning w/o leaving the metaphorical "bread crumb path" in to a...

Am I missing the part about the hostile snowboarder?

That's probably about correct timing for N Fk to be melted at Beverly turnoff, Fish Lake open to Camp Creek, give or take a week

That's still really helpful, gets you a thousand feet off the bottom. By the time you can drive to that gate, probably lots of other attractive things (Teanaway, etc) have started melting out.

kinda low, call CERD for status

@john-morrow where is FS 4315 gated? Driving partway up the road would be very useful in the spring for corn tours. Your photos from spring look wonderful back there.

I think at first those sort of conditions TRs moved over to Facebook, but even now, those groups are too big and community too large for people to feel comfortable sharing their stashes. NWAC obs seems to be the best place to get conditions info, or following the correct people on Strava. The scarcity mindset has taken hold. I personally mostly write TRs about interesting, off the beaten path stuff because I know that I don't need to encourage more people to go to a popular zone like the Sour...

The 4315 Road is, in fact, driveable to this day to the divide and is gated in the summer.  Known as the "Storey Road".  As is the Howson Cr Road a few miles to the south.  it is short but there is a really fun N Facing line on the western spur summit of Sasse Mtn out of that Howson parking on the Sac Road.

Meaningless note:  I have never been thrilled with teh name Louvre.  It was a poetic license creation of peakbaggers that I thought negated local knowledge...

@JohnMorrow thank you for the great explanation into the history of this area. I'll add details to my blog about Ladybug.

I had the same thought about a hut system in this area with the new Fortune Creek Hut over on the Esmerelda Road. There is a road system up to Sasse Ridge, but I am not sure if it is drivable in the summer?

Interesting history about voluntary non motorized designation. My goal is not to necessarily encourage a "takeover" by non motorized users or vice versa...

Hi Kyle,

One of the reasons the area between Jolly and Hawkins has remained so quiet for so long is it takes a really strong skier to reach all that in one day.  Though there are more and more of you very strong skiers today.  Gear has gotten so light and good, and technical ski ability for some of the steep starts is now more common as well.  There has been a movement for 25 years to bring attention to the area as designated non-motorized, though 

Magnificent!

Always been a big fan of you and your reports.

Thanks

Robie

As an old timer I pine for the good ole days when Sky and Jason posted magazine quality first descents that I enjoyed reading to get psyched. Over the years many of us quit doing detailed and photo filled TRs and just posted a quick conditions report for a general area (north slopes around Stevens Pass, etc.) to help others in planning. I certainly appreciated that myself. Now even that seems to have faded or moved over to Facebook where it is much harder to find IMO. The telemetry sites are...

Glad it all worked out for you guys

Thanks John. Those Obs are a resource. I always look locally, but I can see how they could be used for other areas. 

i started writing trip reports on Rec.climbing as Avajane in the early days on the internet when it was on Newsgroups. Just took Ava Jane skiing at Blewett yesterday, and she’s almost 30…Time moves on. Maybe a young person should take over TAY and they could figure out how to make it “in” again. 

That's a big day.  Reading your blog, you are not the first person to be threatened with death by a solo split boarder up at Baker (he threatened to kill a friend with his ice axe who happened to be in the same skin track).   Though you are the first person I've heard of being actually assaulted.  If this person is ramping up there aggression might be worth filing a police report even if you can't positively ID the person.   

In so many respects I think the majority of long time Cascade BC skiers are protecting their stashes.  I am open to hearing criticism for this, but it seems that some folks are using NWAC Recent Obs as the new TR dump. Oft thinly veiled as snow stability obs.  I don't mind, as it is my answer to Avajane's question.  I visit there for the most up to date condition info.  What isn't shared there, nor is it meant to be, is the detailed tour descriptions of TAY past. &nbs...

I liked it the way it was. Lots of quick and timely reports to help with choosing where to go. I also always enjoyed the more “high end” reports about steep skiing, big mountains and first or notable ascents. I know what Tim is saying - but if people stop writing trip reports there won’t be any to search thru as this site will be gone. Tim has long done a great job with his great trip reports.

Maybe the new guide books out there now are good enough. I just know hard it was to know whe...

Inspiring!  What a string of cool descents ....thanks for putting this TR together!

Social media and lack of energy behind this site's direction/leadership (notice the self-criticism) - if anyone wants to take over, I'd be happy to do a graceful hand-over. Also open to doing a quick push to improve a few things around here (looking for doers, not ideators, TBH).

@avajane I agree 100% with kamtron and have a suggestion for improving your experience here. Instead of using trip reports to tell you when & where to ski, why not try doing things the other way around? First pick an objective that you're excited about, then find the right day for it, and THEN look for trip reports that might help you understand what the route is like and keep you from getting lost or cliffed out. 

Buggy website, social media alternatives, not trying to "blow up the spot"...

So many people are out there getting it when it's good, I only feel the need to post about the more exotic, off-the-beaten-path trips these days

Strong work! That's a lot of heavy skiing for one day. Glad you guys made it out safely and nice running into you on the summit for round two the next day!

The 50 Classic Culverts of North America 

Cool exploratory tour. I've always wondered about those slopes as you drive by on I-90. Thanks for the post.

I skied Monday as well, and it was fantastic cold powder above 4,200’ or so. Grabby down lower, but at least fresh.

I skied this zone on Monday. Snow falling and accumulating down to 2,000', above 3,500' it was really stacking up, especially on leeward slopes. Down low, coverage was surprisingly thin, but I somehow made my escape through the trees without any rock or stump encounters. 

Oh my.   This is my spring two-car thing - this is trip goes under the heading of Minor Epic!

This is superfun with a 2nd vehicle at Annette TH!  When I had a larger radius backcountry community it made the shuttle stuff easy to meet someone coming from the westside, rendezvousing us east siders at Annette TH. Leave their vehicle and driving back to Silver Fir.  Then getting the ride back to Silver Fir at the end of the day.  

Slightly off topic, but - does anyone know the name of this line on the North shoulder of Melakwa Point? I imagine it must have been skied, but I haven't heard much about it. 

Thanks for sharing that information Lowell!

I’m not aware of proposals for a ski area on Silverstar. The one proposed for the Methow Valley was on Sandy Butte, a bit farther east. There were also proposals for Liberty Bell basin, Cutthroat Pass and Hart’s Pass. The Mt Cashmere proposal was backed by several folks including Bill Stark, who with his wife Peg was known for naming many of the features in the Enchantments. Here are a couple references:

Oh yea, come mid-late feb the sun is high enough to start melting out the lower elevations, in deep winter snow lingers around longer even in Leavenworth vs the next town over Peshastin. And the Icicle is just cold! Its interesting what makes a good ski season in the stuart range, its similar to the Argentiere basin in Cham the steeper lines come into shape with the wet spring snow. I think some of the steep lines dont accumulate much snow when its coming down cold but then benefit from some...

@ajscott the only times I had visited skiing in the range were March to early April, and I think the lower elevations melt out earlier on the eastside than at Snoqualmie, where the snowpack reaches its fattest at the beginning of April, so that is why my perception was skewed.

Crazy they almost put a huge ski area on Cashmere! Sounds like Silver Star up in the Methow. Was it the same time period? They never would have had enough room for condos and lodging in the Icicle, and probably...

Aww yea our back yard holds some good ones....the un named peak next to Cashmere is called the Black Pyramid. Lots to ski on Cashmere, and in fact it was almost home to a world destination ski area, complete with condos up and down the icicle, WHEW glad we dodged that bullet. Also, not sure how long you have been skiin in the range, but this is a fairly average snowpack down low for most of the 20 years ive been skiing here. Glad you had a good one up there! thats a special place...

Nice report, thanks for sharing. Seeing the angle of the trees growing in relation to the hillside shows just how steep the couloir is. Oof dah!

Well done!

Nice idea and great execution; love that part of Cascades.

Thanks for sharing the stoke ... totally allowed, just updated the TR date to 5/9/2009. (If folks sort by the submission date, it'll come up in recent submissions, if they sort by the TR date, it'll show up where it needs to : )