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Thanks for the report and good that you are on a good recovery course.
Always like to here about your trips and discovered tips for outdoor comfort--big one for me..
Always like to here about your trips and discovered tips for outdoor comfort--big one for me..
Very nice to hear from you again, Larry. And congratulations on your new lease on life.
We went over to Campbell/A-Basin and had the place pretty much to ourselves. Very fun, stable snow even at 34-degrees in open slopes. Took 4 laps wearing a shit-eating grin the entire time!
author=Scotsman link=topic=29641.msg124424#msg124424 date=1384801642]
There's your problem right there....I used to be afraid of the coreshot.......No more! Be not afraid...coreshots are a badge of honor....they're only tools...and when skiing pow who needs good bases!
In a perfect world, everybody would act with the correct etiquette and follow the rules. Human nature as it is= NOT GOING TO HAPPEN....no matter how many discussion on ski b...
Glad to hear you're getting stronger and back into the woods! A well-placed couple of stents gave me my dad back; he's still climbing his beloved 14ers every summer in Colorado.
Thanks for the snow news, too - many happy trips to come!
Thanks for the snow news, too - many happy trips to come!
Great photos Charlie!
Excellent day out with a good group of folks!
I'll share some photos very soon.
Excellent day out with a good group of folks!
I'll share some photos very soon.
author=Jason4 link=topic=29641.msg124421#msg124421 date=1384800865]
dictates where I can go without fear of (another) coreshot.
I'm not looking to reduce the numbers.
There's your problem right there....I used to be afraid of the coreshot.......No more! Be not afraid...coreshots are a badge of honor....they're only tools...and when skiing pow who needs good bases!
In a perfect world, everyb...
author=Scotsman link=topic=29641.msg124415#msg124415 date=1384798652]
Solution: Avoid places where other will be: There's a lot of space out there....it may take some extra effort but don't go to areas that you KNOW will be filled with other people.
Great advice when time and snowpack allows, unfortunately there is only one road up north that is maintained above 3000 feet and from there the current snowpack dictates whe...
author=aaron_wright link=topic=29641.msg124416#msg124416 date=1384798802]
^^^with age comes wisdom
It took me a while... ;)
author=Charlie Hagedorn link=topic=29641.msg124410#msg124410 date=1384797398]
I'm reminded that beginners are taught to "climb what you ski", which is often good advice, especially in unknown terrain.
I think this makes sense when you are conscientiously choosing to ascend a safe line… when you are not in an avy zone… ascending a ridge or mellow slope… then it makes sense to Ski back the way you came up because yo...
Pretty much perfectly summed up the conditions!
Was another one of the masses headed up Double Diamond. Luckily was one of the first to hit the DEEEEP lines under Southern Cross... Of course I started off with a nose dive into the sea of powder that I barely swam my way out of.
Conditions seemed pretty stable on the SE aspect even with the wind loading. Only downside was with that depth, you pretty much had to hit the steeps just to keep moving.
Was another one of the masses headed up Double Diamond. Luckily was one of the first to hit the DEEEEP lines under Southern Cross... Of course I started off with a nose dive into the sea of powder that I barely swam my way out of.
Conditions seemed pretty stable on the SE aspect even with the wind loading. Only downside was with that depth, you pretty much had to hit the steeps just to keep moving.
author=David_Britton link=topic=29651.msg124414#msg124414 date=1384798438]Interesting and thanks for the map; Charlie would you mind telling us qualitatively where that was w/respect to the top hogsback summer tent camp; I can't quite pick it out.
I've not been up there in true summer before; the only campsite I've seen in springtime was against some outcroppings overlooking the Thunder Glacier. This was much lower than that....
Solution: Avoid places where other will be: There's a lot of space out there....it may take some extra effort but don't go to areas that you KNOW will be filled with other people.
Easy Guide.
#1 Read the TAY trip reports.
#2 Avoid going to the area where the latest TAY report says it was good.
#3 If upon reaching your selected TH and you see lots of other people.......go in the other direction.
#4 Enjoy stress free skiing away from other...
Easy Guide.
#1 Read the TAY trip reports.
#2 Avoid going to the area where the latest TAY report says it was good.
#3 If upon reaching your selected TH and you see lots of other people.......go in the other direction.
#4 Enjoy stress free skiing away from other...
Interesting and thanks for the map; Charlie would you mind telling us qualitatively where that was w/respect to the top hogsback summer tent camp; I can't quite pick it out.
author=Jason4 link=topic=29641.msg124409#msg124409 date=1384797318]
I have very little compassion for people that are skinning directly up underneath stuff that I've been riding for 20 years.
I should clarify that my intolerance is particular to skin tracks under the ridgeline between the ski area and Table Mountain because there is such good access to the east end of the ridge and a safe way around. There are other skin t...
How do you like your Freedoms? I like mine… but I feel the TX pros are too soft. What boot do you ski?
I took my kids up there this fall for the first time when one of the first snows came. I would really love to ski this area. I haven't checked the road status… were you able to drive to the TH this time of year? If not… I'd love to hear more of your itinerary and adventure.
I took my kids up there this fall for the first time when one of the first snows came. I would really love to ski this area. I haven't checked the road status… were you able to drive to the TH this time of year? If not… I'd love to hear more of your itinerary and adventure.
Whenever this conversation comes up, I'm reminded that beginners are taught to "climb what you ski", which is often good advice, especially in unknown terrain.
In the case of the Blueberry Chutes, I don't know the experience level of those setting the steep-slope uptracks. I don't ski Baker much, but the added objective hazard of strong/aggressive skiers coming down those lines would lead me to avoid the bases of those chutes anytime after a storm.
In the case of the Blueberry Chutes, I don't know the experience level of those setting the steep-slope uptracks. I don't ski Baker much, but the added objective hazard of strong/aggressive skiers coming down those lines would lead me to avoid the bases of those chutes anytime after a storm.
author=str8ryder link=topic=29641.msg124382#msg124382 date=1384751768]
What is unnerving is the recent trend to skin from the bottom of the slope up, spending the entire day under the face, and tracking out the runout of lines that should be skied top to bottom. Why place a skin track in a location where people drop in on top of you all day and debris goes rushing by? Much better to be in avalanche terrain with your board pointed down hill at speed and gear a...
author=Charlie Hagedorn link=topic=29651.msg124371#msg124371 date=1384746536]
The trail-ski out was fun and captivating; only a couple minor dings in the ptex.
I'll take a few dings in the p-tex over two miles of down hiking in ski boots (like I did last Saturday on Heliotrope) anytime!
author=flowing alpy link=topic=29641.msg124400#msg124400 date=1384793727]
huge skis with wall to wall skins and minimalist binders under the lightest fancy gear carried by strong climbers driven by a hormone fueled craniums make going up steep shit way easier.
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Totally agree and maybe even resemble that characterization, yet there is still a right way and a wrong way to climb a slope. The right way has >90% to do wi...
Cool photos, despite the not-so-awesome conditions.
huge skis with wall to wall skins and minimalist binders under the lightest fancy gear carried by strong climbers driven by a hormone fueled craniums make going up steep shit way easier.
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This is why I'll wait a bit for the "first powder day" frenzy to die down, too many kooks out and about. I understand the argument about not being out on days like this, why chance it? I also see way too many skin tracks in dangerous and inefficient terrain. If you have to ski on days like this choose a safe up track, for that matter make it a habit to set safe skin tracks that avoid exposure ALL the time. Good habit will go a long way to keeping you safe and alive.
author=andybrnr link=topic=29634.msg124392#msg124392 date=1384759338]
After all the reports from Stevens on Saturday, I'm really grateful nobody got hurt. The setup was primed between the amount of snow, wind loading, and crust layer present in some locations, let alone the number of folks out...
Indeed. I was wondering if the ground truth would match the speculations/predictions, and it sounds like it did.
author=silaswild link=topic=29641.msg124391#msg124391 date=1384758218]
Please understand I don't want to start an argument, but I'm concerned. Should anyone be skinning or skiing in such a location on a day like that? It sounds too dangerous for both.
^^^
Mike, triggered this on the down. We entered Bobby's chute from the top left, which had better terrain anchoring (tops of young trees visible above the snow). We watched a solo skier with dog enter and descend from the right side entrance, so felt ok with that line initially. After our group made the entrance and reassembled in the trees on the right side, my girlfriend and I decided to traverse left to Nancy's chute while the rest of the group finished descending Bobby's. We stop...
author=str8ryder link=topic=29641.msg124382#msg124382 date=1384751768]
Why place a skin track in a location where people drop in on top of you all day and debris goes rushing by?
Please understand I don't want to start an argument, but I'm concerned. Should anyone be skinning or skiing in such a location on a day like that? It sounds too dangerous for both.
Glad you had a good day, based on my experience the other day, I'm not sure i would stress over walking in the skin track, nice to be thoughtful, but there were literally dozens of people trudging up the track, and by 1000 or so it was pretty solid. It would have been a wast of breath and time discussing skin track philosophy.
We are seeing this all over the place in BC. Crazy steep up tracks everywhere. Overlapping ski tracks. I have told groups to wait and not ski over top of the uptrack and with deer in the headlights look they drop not knowing what they just did. That is an education thing more course more time with guides help solve those problems. The challenge is there are groups that don't want to spend the money and invest in their safety.
There is something to be said about mentor-ship and l...
There is something to be said about mentor-ship and l...
A bit unnerving to have some people up there who clearly weren't considering other people's safety.]
As the number of BC skiers increases such behavior will become more frequent...
What is unnerving is the recent trend to skin from the bottom of the slope up, spending the entire day under the face, and tracking out the runout of lines that should be skied top to bottom. Why place a skin track in a location where people drop in on top of you all day and debris goes rushing by? Much better to be in avalanche terrain with your board pointed down hill at speed and gear all buttoned up rather than skinning up with your pants down. In addition this approach undercuts the bottom...
Thanks for getting us stoked for the season. Wish I would have gone up skiing instead of mountain biking and separating my left AC (shoulder). Nice camera editing work mixing in time elapse.
do you use an airbag. you know the snow like the forecasters do - thanks.
author=all mtn link=topic=29651.msg124375#msg124375 date=1384747374]windslab, and good where you were. how steep were those slopes
Measuring from photos, much of what we skied today above timberline was in the 20 degree realm (the most-reliable measurement was 22 degrees). The roll that slid is steeper.
Good running into yesterday. Thanks for the uptrack and the cameo in your newest episode. Fun times tracking out Sliver before everyone else showed up. Nice choice of exit!
Access via Quicksilver then up standard exit route when ski area/south back are open.
Access via Quicksilver then up standard exit route when ski area/south back are open.
author=FreeBird link=topic=29636.msg124326#msg124326 date=1384704807]
There is a good base once you get to silver with 4" to 10" of light powder.
Was able to ski from t...
windslab, and good where you were. how steep were those slopes
Sweet! I was wondering, when I crossed it, who laid down that line at 1:14. Looked pretty tasty.
author=r1de link=topic=29631.msg124318#msg124318 date=1384670906]
Good report. Did you notice any wind slab formation on the N/NE aspects, or any slab releases anywhere?
None that I could appreciate
author=MattT link=topic=29631.msg124364#msg124364 date=1384740972]
Don't recommend it until the snowpack is deeper, unless you're into sacrificing ptex and edge material to Ul...
...nice work!...how did you access?...
On the other side of the valley there was some wind transported slabby snow on SW face. Not cohesive at all though as the snowpack was about 6-8" total.
Don't recommend it until the snowpack is deeper, unless you're into sacrificing ptex and edge material to Ullr.
Don't recommend it until the snowpack is deeper, unless you're into sacrificing ptex and edge material to Ullr.
Yeah, very nice day!
Took our older daughter out bc-ing for the first time, she doesn't have a split but used my Verts, I let her walk in my tracks ;D but kept her off others'
Met many skiers and a couple other splitboarders, everyone was smiling and friendly
Took our older daughter out bc-ing for the first time, she doesn't have a split but used my Verts, I let her walk in my tracks ;D but kept her off others'
Met many skiers and a couple other splitboarders, everyone was smiling and friendly
author=n16ht5 link=topic=29644.msg124353#msg124353 date=1384732098]
off road vehicles>?? trucks? quads? pics or you didn't go.
how deep was snow at PL?
They were lifted trucks/jeeps with huge deflated tires that just crawled up the road in deep snow! Didn't get any pics as I left my phone at home.
We parked off the side of the road about 5 miles from the Twin Lakes TH. Snow there was...
off road vehicles>?? trucks? quads? pics or you didn't go.
how deep was snow at PL?
how deep was snow at PL?