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nice job Animal.  I was out there with my wife, Lindsey (I'm Ben) and we chatted at the bottom of the run just above Lake Ann.  How was the night out?  We were glad to hear you had a book -- plenty of hours in a tent!! 

Cheers! 
I didn't realize it was such a close call - glad you are OK!
author=flowing alpy link=topic=29641.msg124570#msg124570 date=1384980370]
hopefully get more people from the snoqualmie forest to tailgate near the shuksan compound.
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I'll print out copies of Rainier's book starting on page 153 with careful directions to head west on 542 as quick as possible. :D
author=flowing alpy link=topic=29641.msg124570#msg124570 date=1384980370]
hopefully get more people from the snoqualmie forest to tailgate near the shuksan compound.
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;D
hopefully get more people from the snoqualmie forest to tailgate near the shuksan compound.
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Dr. Nikolai is not his real name, but it is how his name is saved in my phone.  Also, His blonde Mohawk would not be welcome in any highly academic setting, so it's fair to say this is a different guy.
Guidebooks for touring cannot be compared to guidebooks for climbing.  I would support a very brief and public explanation for the local style and etiquette that is expected by locals in the Bagley bowl area that includes the safe routes to Artist Point, Herman Saddle, the false summit of Herman and even the top of Table and of course the exit from the bowl.  I would not support anything that shows ski lines.

The big difference between climbing and skiing is that more traff...
I don't know how you poor bastards put up with this mob crap...God bless ye.
That's how you do it, right there..   8)
It is my understanding if blocks are prrsent in the slab it is a hard slab. FWIW
This thread reminds me of the situation out on the Arm. I like skinning up the Arm. It only takes about 45 min from the base of chair 8, arguably quicker and more pleasant than riding the chair and dealing with the ridge line.  I was chatting with one of the patrols about this once and he said simply,

"bad idea, no up in a down zone".

The issue with table is it is a very high traffic area with a lot of angle, aka a down zone. In unstable conditions, the tra...
[quoteBy all means try and educate......... but F**king guidebooks for everything....... The end of skiing culture as we know it is being destroyed by all this self glorification-look at me Trip Report bullshit, Go-pro video and Guidebook crap.

The end is neigh!!!!!!!!
REPENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]


Here, Here!!!  The haggis eater has nailed it!!!  Pour a wee dram and toast!!!
Nice report!

Such a good weekend to kick off POW SEASON.
author=Charlie Hagedorn link=topic=29641.msg124535#msg124535 date=1384914029">
True; people usually buy guidebooks to learn about good places to go in a new environment. Nonetheless, their behavior is influenced by guidebooks. One little dotted line denoted "traditional avalanche-safe approach" will find many followers.

In the particular case of that side of Table Mountain, it's hard to imagine anyone's secrets being bared by an...
Last season when I saw over 100 people in the Bagley Basin all doing their own adventuring, I decided that skiing at Cypress in Vancouver, the most used XC area in Canada, offered more solitude...

... and a higher margin of safety.  I love touring and have been at it for some time but the shitshow I sawin the Baker backcountry that day was unreal. 

I'm glad I enjoy XC skiing on weekends...
author=d542east link=topic=29641.msg124523#msg124523 date=1384897433]
I've thought about this subject a bit and have considered what an (online?) bc ski guide to the area accessed by hwy 542 would do

And, so it came to pass that I was inspired to make my yearly post on TAY.

This... is a bad idea.  I must admit that if such a thing were to exist, I would likely frequent the site as I do this one.

There absolutel...
wow, looks like stevens was the place to be. way to slay it you guys!
True; people usually buy guidebooks to learn about good places to go in a new environment. Nonetheless, their behavior is influenced by guidebooks. One little dotted line denoted "traditional avalanche-safe approach" will find many followers.

In the particular case of that side of Table Mountain, it's hard to imagine anyone's secrets being bared by an alpental.com-like photo or two.
People don't buy guidebooks to learn etiquette...

Thanks to everyone for the kind words. I had forgotten the feeling of community that is present among backcountry skiers.  Yes Silas, Dad did teach skiing at Stevens until he was 92.  I’m not sure how safe it is, but he is still racing the family sailboat, now at age 97.  That longevity probably does not apply to me however; Jane is the one who takes after Dad.
I've thought about this subject a bit and have considered what an (online?) bc ski guide to the area accessed by hwy 542 would do to increase awareness of good local skiing etiquette. It seems there aren't really that many secrets anymore in the area, and it will always be pretty easy to get away from the crowds by just going a little further away from bagley/swift/herman. It might make the area slightly more crowded, but I doubt it, and it could be an amazing online resource for recor...
Good write up Lar and your camera is so much better than mine! I just felt like a kid in a candy store! Nothing like witnessing the big storms in the fall. So many fond memories of this test time and lots of tales of how we learned what to do. I love our 2 hour happy hour time outside our tents, like old timers around the stove, reminiscing about the mistakes we've made and what we've learned.  My gear is all packed again and just need to tune and wax my skis, test the glue on my skins...
Thanks for the report and pictures, Andy.  Glad you are OK.
author=Rusty Knees link=topic=29676.msg124485#msg124485 date=1384844545]
... Turns out, about 9:30, which wasn't too bad, I thought, although there was not a speck of snow on the road all the way to Paradise.  Why not open at 9?

Question - why can they not make a prediction at 6 AM?  The plow drivers must be out working and be able to report to some body who could access their keyboard and post a 20 word twitter update. Wo...
Wow! Skyline lake looks like those crazy line ups on Black Friday!
It was nice to meet Y-all, and put faces to names.
I ended up moving my rig up to the RV lot, to Roll the High Life.
Thanks for the excellent report. Reminds me of my first outings. -Getting so wrecked, and as soon as I got back to the car, I couldn't wait to do it again (actually, that hasn't changed at all). So true. Funny how the bug bites some of us, and not others.
Sorry I missed this party, Don, and hope we'll catch up on some other adventure soon. Mainly I wish I had a chance to check out the homemade splitboard.
Glad it all worked out... been thinking of you, guys, all day at work ;-)
author=Larry_R link=topic=29661.msg124427#msg124427 date=1384802062]
Over the past three or four seasons my strength had gradually been declining. I had attributed it to the inevitable effects of aging.... One does not realize the true range of human performance until this happens to you personally.

So true Larry.  I am thankful for every day of FUN I get, and hope they keep on coming.  Skiing is the only thing I can do better...
I agree, Larry and Jane, good to hear from you folks again.  I still think of one of your tips everytime I get out of my car in the snow and rain - a plastic tent stretched from the roof to the car door, to protect us while we change, boot up, gear up, etc.

Stents! Should be a part of every back country emergency kit.  ;)
nice photos.  I saw UT had an avalanche cycle this past wkend

Larry - it is great to get another trip report from Sasse!
Is that Dr Nicolai; department of Irish/ Bulgarian literature, or another Dr Nico?
I learned on my freedoms, whenever I'm in powder, pull it in and out of tour mode fast and hard a bunch of times to get out all snow.  Mine released from ski mode into tour mode once on my first tour, but never since as I ensure the bindings are free of snow.

I'm really hoping they design something more streamlined and with less parts.  They are a very solid binding though.
Well it was my first day on the Freedoms.  To start with the "leverage" bar up front under the black clamping mechanism popped out from its placement, then one of the blue caps popped off.  I was able to fix both, and these failures did not occur again through the weekend.  I am a little worried that I had two gear failures in the first 1/2 hour of use because I one who is traditionally hard on gear.  The bindings once working felt very rigid and skied good.  T...
I and a buddy were also part of the MANY people heading up Chief and DD on Saturday morning.   Given the number of cars in the parking lot at 9am one would have thought it was a mid season powder day.    :)

We stayed on the front side and skied Double Diamond and found some great snow (with lots of scrub/trees on the upper part).  Here is some video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYsqdW5-9eM

Getting Sasse reports again is more than enough to keep me happy, Larry - glad you're still on the upswing!  Nice pictures too.
Thanks for the report and good that you are on a good recovery course.


Always like to here about your trips and discovered tips for outdoor comfort--big one for me..
Very nice to hear from you again, Larry.  And congratulations on your new lease on life.
We went over to Campbell/A-Basin and had the place pretty much to ourselves. Very fun, stable snow even at 34-degrees in open slopes. Took 4 laps wearing a shit-eating grin the entire time!
author=Scotsman link=topic=29641.msg124424#msg124424 date=1384801642]
There's your problem right there....I used to be afraid of the coreshot.......No more! Be not afraid...coreshots are a badge of honor....they're only tools...and when skiing pow who needs good bases!

In a perfect world, everybody would act with the correct etiquette and follow the rules. Human nature as it is= NOT GOING TO HAPPEN....no matter how many discussion on ski b...
Glad to hear you're getting stronger and back into the woods! A well-placed couple of stents gave me my dad back; he's still climbing his beloved 14ers every summer in Colorado.

Thanks for the snow news, too - many happy trips to come!
Great photos Charlie!

Excellent day out with a good group of folks!

I'll share some photos very soon.
author=Jason4 link=topic=29641.msg124421#msg124421 date=1384800865]
dictates where I can go without fear of (another) coreshot. 

I'm not looking to reduce the numbers. 


There's your problem right there....I used to be afraid of the coreshot.......No more! Be not afraid...coreshots are a badge of honor....they're only tools...and when skiing pow who needs good bases!

In a perfect world, everyb...
author=Scotsman link=topic=29641.msg124415#msg124415 date=1384798652]
Solution: Avoid places where other will be:  There's a lot of space out there....it may take some extra effort but don't go to areas that you KNOW will be filled with other people.


Great advice when time and snowpack allows, unfortunately there is only one road up north that is maintained above 3000 feet and from there the current snowpack dictates whe...
author=aaron_wright link=topic=29641.msg124416#msg124416 date=1384798802]
^^^with age comes wisdom


It took me a while... ;)
author=Charlie Hagedorn link=topic=29641.msg124410#msg124410 date=1384797398]
I'm reminded that beginners are taught to "climb what you ski", which is often good advice, especially in unknown terrain.


I think this makes sense when you are conscientiously choosing to ascend a safe line… when you are not in an avy zone… ascending a ridge or mellow slope… then it makes sense to Ski back the way you came up because yo...
Pretty much perfectly summed up the conditions!
Was another one of the masses headed up Double Diamond. Luckily was one of the first to hit the DEEEEP lines under Southern Cross... Of course I started off with a nose dive into the sea of powder that I barely swam my way out of.
Conditions seemed pretty stable on the SE aspect even with the wind loading. Only downside was with that depth, you pretty much had to hit the steeps just to keep moving.

author=David_Britton link=topic=29651.msg124414#msg124414 date=1384798438]Interesting and thanks for the map; Charlie would you mind telling us qualitatively where that was w/respect to the top hogsback summer tent camp; I can't quite pick it out.


I've not been up there in true summer before; the only campsite I've seen in springtime was against some outcroppings overlooking the Thunder Glacier. This was much lower than that....