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My best recoilection of the trip, misery loves company ;D, great views to Helens, Adams, and Hood, beautiful clear blue sunny skies 8), and suprisingly, few people ;)? I'd have to echo Mad Dog's words, desperate times require desperate measures, but whadda ya gonna do? Some new snow please! Nice T.R. Charles
Nice shot of those 2 Rock’n snowboarders. I can’t wait to see the rest of the Shots. Did the Photo’s of you come out?
Way to go Charles ! ya kept us hangin there for a while.
Hmm !wonder the where the new snow blew off to?
Hmm !wonder the where the new snow blew off to?
Well, like I said, the skiing could have been much worse, and the good weather and (relatively) easy access was nice. I definitely don't want to leave it until the last day of the month too often, though. It is pretty discouraging that late summer-early fall conditions have become so bad the last couple of years, and especially after getting such a good snowpack this past winter. If this trend continues, I might have to give up my streak in protest!
Wow.
Charles, Thanks for the pic. Perfect shot to convey the grim realities.
That's even more barren than last fall, which was the worst I'd ever seen.
Nice job hopping out of the corner tho ;)
Charles, Thanks for the pic. Perfect shot to convey the grim realities.
That's even more barren than last fall, which was the worst I'd ever seen.
Nice job hopping out of the corner tho ;)
Wow, Charles, you and Paul definitely qualify for "Tourture points" on that outing. Glad you made your October turns even though it was below your standard threshold of what you consider countable vf. Remember desperate people will do desperate things ;D
Thanks for your report, we've all been waiting for you to check in so we can plan our next strategy for November. ???
Thanks for your report, we've all been waiting for you to check in so we can plan our next strategy for November. ???
Oh yeah, we've found some really great stuff, but then we have also found some really bad stuff, in fact I remember Ron marking a spot up there on his GPS with a skull and crossbones. Good thing we found out about that section now instead of later when it was all covered with snow and we were flying down the hill. (no pun intended) ;D ;D ;D
Sounds like you got your October turns nailed :-)
I've been doing my own version of the snow dance and haven't figured out why it hasn't worked yet, maybe I have the dancing shoes on the wrong feet.
Now let's all hope November brings the goods so we don't have to stuggle so hard.
Thanks for your report.
I've been doing my own version of the snow dance and haven't figured out why it hasn't worked yet, maybe I have the dancing shoes on the wrong feet.
Now let's all hope November brings the goods so we don't have to stuggle so hard.
Thanks for your report.
There's a muir snowfield thread going on at:
http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=000194,
might shed some additional tibits of info...
http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=000194,
might shed some additional tibits of info...
There was also a light dusting of snow on Blewett this morning too. It's getting closer ;)
Hey, when we got to Mt Hood and purchased our lift tickets, the same thing happened as us as to you, Charles with your call to Paradise. Except this was at the ticket counter. The gal asked if I had ever skied here (Mt Hood) in the fall before, "No" (I said) oh, then you need to know that the conditions are very different than at any other time of the y...
Hey, when we got to Mt Hood and purchased our lift tickets, the same thing happened as us as to you, Charles with your call to Paradise. Except this was at the ticket counter. The gal asked if I had ever skied here (Mt Hood) in the fall before, "No" (I said) oh, then you need to know that the conditions are very different than at any other time of the y...
Hmmm... looks like the photo inserted into the post also updates real time with the DOT web cam. The original post was a 0826/29 shot, now it shows it at 10 something and its melting!! Bummer.
I called MRNP yesterday ( 10/28 ) to see if there had been any new snow out of the storminess Sunday-Monday. Paradise VC is closed weekdays now, so I talked to a ranger at Longmire. They said that some hikers had reported about 3" of new snow just above the parking lot; when I asked if there was any info for above Pan Point, and mentioned skiing, I was told, "Oh, we are closed for skiing, and you can probably understand why." I said I didn't understand, as people ski up on the per...
I think Charles may be heading up that way sometime this week. You might keep an eye tuned for his report when he gets back. Might be getting some snow up there today... White Pass has snow on the roadway:
Anyone been up there in the last week??? Where is the snowline sitting at??? Got some new toys to try out and tweak and can't make it to Hood....
Yes, thanks for the great report, David. So I guess with everything frozen up now and the FL staying low, there may be no good skiing anywhere until we get some new snow? Bad news for me, since I haven't yet skied in October!
"Earn your turns" has brought a whole new perspective to BC skiing in the PNW this fall.
Thanks for the update. Let's hope that November will be more effortless.
Thanks for the update. Let's hope that November will be more effortless.
Now I know what I have to look foreward to! Thanks Greg
Way to go Greg ! Sounds like a tough October for everybody.
Robie
Robie
Way to "take one for the team" there, Greg.
8)
8)
Congrats on your 60 month achievement. :D
Amar ,Thanks for posting the 3 reports. The Sulphide sounds particulary interesting.
Nice report, Amar.
You guys are animals.
You guys are animals.
Sounds Like you had some sweet snow to work with, Amar.
VERY good info, Amar.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Thanks Ron - it looks like the skiing was great!
Charles, we DID miss you. There was a lone AT skier that climbed up thru the rocks and then skined up the glacier. Hardly seemed worth the effort for one run tho.I I do believe the majority of your questions will be answered by either the Pics (http://groups.msn.com/WildHeartsSkiing/mthoodroadtour102002.msnw), or their accompanying legends.
Pray for snow for November turns!!
Pray for snow for November turns!!
It was a great road trip with over 6,000 vf of skiing for the day. It sure felt good to link those turns, and head back up for more. Felt more like spring skiing than October ;D
I knew you all would have a good time if I didn't go! I'm interested in additional details about the snow and skiing conditions - how dirty, how soft, what the runs were like as far as coverage and length?
Andy said that Regine flew over Hood a couple of days ago and that it looked "horrible", and when I asked him for details he wrote, "She said the Palmer Lift skiing area looked very dirty. :-(
I flew over Mt Adam's a couple of weeks ago, and it looked terrible too, but what mountain doesn't looks terrible at this time of the year. Yeah it would be fun to go and ski new snow, but it's not always about the dest...
It sounds like there are some options for getting "backcountry" turns in, then. But here's some new info: Andy said that Regine flew over Hood a couple of days ago and that it looked "horrible", and when I asked him for details he wrote, "She said the Palmer Lift skiing area looked very dirty. :-( " But presumably it is not hard suncups as well. So I'm still thinking...
BTW, what's a lift? ;) ;)
There's a couple of different kinds...
one is Brit speak for "elevator",
another is something you get off of "those little pills" :)
I think you can also buy a one ride lift ticket to the top of the Palmer.
BTW, what's a lift? ;) ;)
Baloo and I hung out up there long enough to get in four runs on the lower 500vf of the muir snowfield on saturday...although I had hoped for better coverage...just to get the skis on new snow for the first time in many months was so nice. The far eastern edge of the lower snowfield above Pebble Creek was decent...one could ski the whole thing and only scratch through to old neve a few times.
By mid afternoon when we hiked down there was already signifigant melting of what little...
By mid afternoon when we hiked down there was already signifigant melting of what little...
If we were going to hike up to the bottom of the skiable snow, does anyone know how much vertical it would be to get there? Given the conditions right now, it seems like it might be worthwhile to get to that groomed snow just so we're not skiing on those limestone suncups.
Timberline is at 6,000. The top of the Magic Mile (bottom of the Palmer) is at 7,000. The top of the Palmer lift is at 8,500.
Of course you could skin on up to Illuminati...
Toby, I answered your question about posting pics here.
If we were going to hike up to the bottom of the skiable snow, does anyone know how much vertical it would be to get there? Given the condition...
Personally, i wouldn't go back down until it snows again.But we haven't skied in October yet! And the forecast for new snow is not good.
If we were going to hike up to the bottom of the skiable snow, does anyone know how much vertical it would be to get there? Given the condition...
we we're still able to ski on and off the lifts, but just barely! until the next snow, you will probably have to walk off in the tunnel exit and onto the snow-field, and again, i guess, at mid-way and down low. Personally, i wouldn't go back down until it snows again....I also have a question about posting pics. How would i post with my reports, pictures located in "my briefcase" on my hard-drive? thanks for any info.. toby.
Charles,
It will break our hearts to lap you on the lifts... but somebody will have it to do ;)
And you're right; there'll be beer to drink.
It will break our hearts to lap you on the lifts... but somebody will have it to do ;)
And you're right; there'll be beer to drink.
maybe we should just party all night, wait for the sun to start up and then head for the hills Ê;D ;D
But if we wait for the sun to come up it will be too late - this ain't summer anymore!
Ok, I'm becoming more interested. Someone I know who will be doing their October turns in South America just commented to me that conditions out there (ie backcountry) are "dangerous", with the "limestone snow" and no new. But I've mana...
Just think an early morning road trip, just like those ol college days, maybe we should just party all night, wait for the sun to start up and then head for the hills ;D ;D Then again, I think age has something to do with that.
Charles, it's not to hard to take the skis off, course you could always put some skins on them and just skin over the dirt, only one tricky part in doing that, is getting off at the top, that takes a little practice.
Charles, it's not to hard to take the skis off, course you could always put some skins on them and just skin over the dirt, only one tricky part in doing that, is getting off at the top, that takes a little practice.
What time would you be planning on leaving on Sunday morning?
Charles
Reeeeeeeeely Early :)
I don't know about that walk on/off part - so that means doing the skis off/on routine for each lift ride? Hmmmm...you see, I'm used to those waxless skis and don't normally take them off until the end of the day! Maybe Toby can tell us more about how this works?
Charles
No Prob...
What time would you be planning on leaving on Sunday morning?
Here's some info I got via your link, Ron:
Here's some info I got via your link, Ron:
The Palmer Snowfield is open Friday - Sunday from 9am - 3pm.Ê All day lift tickets are $32 for adults, $22 for seniors (free if you're over 72), and $22 for juniors.Ê Please remember the Palmer Snowfield is recommended for intermediate and advanced skiers and snowboarders only. PLEASE BE AWARE OF EARLY SEASON CONDITIONS. YOU MUST WALK ON AND WALK OFF T...
Mad Dog and the Roboman are startin' to make noises about goin' there this Sunday.
http://www.timberlinelodge.com/conditions/forecast.asp
Anybody else?
http://www.timberlinelodge.com/conditions/forecast.asp
Anybody else?
Thanks Toby, I'll get that changed. Charles
I dunno what's up for October, all I know is it's got to start snowing soon.
Happy Trails ;D
Happy Trails ;D
That field is pretty well sheltered and had about 3 inches of consolidated powder. Lot of the other areas looked patchy. abc
Thanks for the info, Andy. I have been wondering if there was any significant new snow up there. How deep was the new snow where you skied ("skier's right above Pebble Creek") - just a few inches?
Sounds like we really need another good storm before there will be any extensive skiing on anything but nasty old snow?
Charles
Sounds like we really need another good storm before there will be any extensive skiing on anything but nasty old snow?
Charles