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Greg, that must have been you that I talked to on the XC trail?
Jim, sorry I didn't get myself organized to join you today. I agree with your last line - things would have been much better everywhere if that underlying wet snow had had a chance to freeze.
I second that! Thank you for the mid-week reports, and the useful details you include - it helps a lot for weekend planning to have them. And...keep 'em coming!
Thanks for the wide-ranging report.
Any guesses on conditions there this weekend? Looks like there will be a fair amount of new wet snow and maybe rain to at least 5000' Sat AM on top of crusts or ice most places, so I'm thinking not a great place to be at least on Saturday.
Any guesses on conditions there this weekend? Looks like there will be a fair amount of new wet snow and maybe rain to at least 5000' Sat AM on top of crusts or ice most places, so I'm thinking not a great place to be at least on Saturday.
Brent, just the mention of Battle Abbey puts a huge grin on my face, glad you guys had a good trip. From your description it sounds ad if you triggered a slide on the green room run? From what I recall, to the skiers left of this run, the slope decreases quickly into the open bowl-and skiers right wraps around the nose of the ridge. IN what direction could you see the slide propagating a 1/4 mile? did it extend over to the bowl on the skiers left?
that while...
that while...
Ah, cascadeclimbers isn't that bad. There is a ton of spray, but there is also an incredible amount of good information and lots of good people.
MW8+, you mentioned admiring the descent off Kaleetin. After ticking a few days tours off my list earlier this winter, this one has risen to the top. First day weather and snowpack permit, I'm planning to ski it. Interested?
MW8+, you mentioned admiring the descent off Kaleetin. After ticking a few days tours off my list earlier this winter, this one has risen to the top. First day weather and snowpack permit, I'm planning to ski it. Interested?
mw8+,
re: climbing partners, check out the forums on cascadeclimbers.com if you haven't already. do not be put off by the amount of junk on those forums compared to this one, just goes to show bc skiing breeds more character than climbing ;) ;)
re: climbing partners, check out the forums on cascadeclimbers.com if you haven't already. do not be put off by the amount of junk on those forums compared to this one, just goes to show bc skiing breeds more character than climbing ;) ;)
Good! We'll meet sometime to ski and then your friend Skip can lead all the hard pitches...
My friend Skip always tells our CO friends that their state is full of "mere gravel bars." He can go on for hours on this topic (and he is always looking for what he calls "belay slaves," by the way). The best part is, the magazines seem to not notice how much great skiing we have here!
Ok, some truths must be revealed. Don't be at all defensive of your NW skiing with me, it's one of the reasons I moved here. When I moved to Colorado I was on my two year and x number month straight skiing (forget now the number, but am reviving my count) - having enjoyed a month in South America skiing 6 volcanoes one summer and my 3rd trip to Mt Shasta the next for the dreaded Aug-Sept Northern Hemisphere doldroms. How bummed was I when Colorado couldn't muster the guns to ma...
Ahh, indeed, when it becomes time to get out and ski some of the BIG tours in the Cascades! I'm getting excited just thinking about it. Check out Burgdorfer (book mentioned above) for getting psyched to try out some of WA's great spring/summer skiing after everyone in CO has turned to mountain biking (and the day after your big tour, head out to mountain bike for some active rest!). So many mountains, so little time...
Even with our low snowpack you'll not likely need to hang up your boards in May 'round here. The good corn is just coming out by then!
Indeed. I must admit that in my years of skiing in Colorado I became quite spoiled. If I didn't have a day of untracked light and dry powder, it was an off day. But isn't that the way it is everywhere?? The problem with Colorado is that deep powder days are rare indeed, and even when it does fall, the constant threat of hidden depth hoar makes even the best powder days a victory only after the fact. To play it safe, I found myself skiing at three areas over and over...
It was just our presence or rather our weight that did it. We were 150 vf downhill of the crown, about 400' lineal from the highest point of the crown, and the first person was about 100' from the edge of the slide. We were just preparing to cross the slope one at a time. There was a whump (those in front heard and felt it, those in back did not). There was a 10 second delay before the slope released.
Great report Brent - glad you all returned safely. How did you "remotely" trigger the first avalanche you mentioned? (always trying to learn..)
nice TR! and nice *not* to hear 'can't believe you poor pnw'ers, skiing this horrrible snow...now let me tell you about colorado!'. in case you haven't already, you can make friends with rainer burgdorfer as well, his book covers a lot more and higher ground than martin volken's. higher ground is especially good since, given its low elevation, powder days at snoqualmie are few and far between.
could see myself returning on a day of fresh powder when I could thoroughly enjoy the widely spaced old growth forest of the Northwest rib.
Been there, done that, it's awsome.
Makes me smile to think of the day when the snow conditions are just right and you too are able to enjoy some of the best widely spaced old growth skiing.
Oh - and the dogs loved the day. The travel was mostly quite good for them, and in the bare patches lower down there were lots of rodents to keep them perked up.
You nailed one of our classics; a really fun glades ski... maybe the best in the Snoqualmie. Nice way to indoctrinate yourself to the area and welcome!
Ski_Photomatt,
We had the same uneasy feeling about the young pair of boarders we met. They were really whipped by the time they were at the ridge using our tracks, and then were heading off into completely untracked areas on worse exposures. We talked about taking care,etc., but it's hard to act like a cop or their mom out there.
BTW, we were just 4 at that point. Took one back early and returned.
We were pretty cautious, but wondering a bit about our judgement, too. It's so t...
We had the same uneasy feeling about the young pair of boarders we met. They were really whipped by the time they were at the ridge using our tracks, and then were heading off into completely untracked areas on worse exposures. We talked about taking care,etc., but it's hard to act like a cop or their mom out there.
BTW, we were just 4 at that point. Took one back early and returned.
We were pretty cautious, but wondering a bit about our judgement, too. It's so t...
Don_B: we were the two other tele skiers above Skyline Lake (although I only remember a party of four?) We dug a pit on the ridge, not to determine if the snow was stable or not - we knew it would scream unstable - but rather for our own education. There was about 3 feet overlaying an old rain/sun crust in this slightly wind deposited spot. Slope angle was very low, 15 degrees or so (I'm a bad judge of slope angle, especially this low). A column for compression test...
We took our track back to the XC trails, through Grand Junction, and to the Outback run. It would have been too much work to have to break trail just to get out another way, and our car was at the Silver Fir lift. The snowpack was relatively low, but easily sufficient - its got to have a pretty high water content under the newest snow by now. Unfortunately, with the weekend's change in weather, it is probably not very skiable today!
It was great get out and also to see what it's like on the eastside (which I've avoided until now due to low snow cover concerns). The cover was damn good all the way to the road, and if it freezes before too much melting happens, the upper clearcuts and old forests would be pretty awesome with say 8-14" of new powder (watch for stumps out there in logging land, though!!). But of course as anyone who has skied with me can tell you, I'm an optimist!
Until the freeze, though, my dog Ma...
Until the freeze, though, my dog Ma...
Thanks for the report Charles. Nice to know it's finally skiable in there. Which way did you go back out - the road or backtrack?
Russ,
Nice photo finish there! I like it.
Good Skiing, Darin
Nice photo finish there! I like it.
Good Skiing, Darin
Some scary stuff out there today in a lot of places! -Glad to hear you made it out! :)
Good Skiing, Darin
Good Skiing, Darin
We did not see any avalanches or related activity. We saw two other tele skiers out on south side from parking lot, 2 pair of snowshoers up as far at the lake, and two tired out snowboarders postholing up to the ridge in our tracks who said they were going to go off the west side.
Don_B, russ - did you see any activities related to the reported avalanche on a SW-facing slope, 2' x 300', which carried a skier over cliff bands, with minor injuries? It sounds like they were also somewhere on Skyline Ridge.
Thanks for the reports, and glad you found great snow.
Thanks for the reports, and glad you found great snow.
2 of us skied the southeast face above the parking lot on Friday. Our timing was perfect as 2 others had just put in a track! (thanks GB & friend) The 2 parties were the only ones out, so had the slopes to ourselves.
Every run was fresh tracks with face shots on the steeper sections, so there was no need to go any further. The other party reported hearing a couple of "womps" further up the east face on steep sections.
I've skied Skyline many times and never hit condit...
Every run was fresh tracks with face shots on the steeper sections, so there was no need to go any further. The other party reported hearing a couple of "womps" further up the east face on steep sections.
I've skied Skyline many times and never hit condit...
Don,
Thanks for the report.
Thanks for the report.
Zap ,That's sage advice.
Now all those who are skiing this storm can thank me. I chose last week for knee surgery and darn if it didn't start snowing powder. A big foamy brew at some future date would be appropriate for sacrificing myself.
Now all those who are skiing this storm can thank me. I chose last week for knee surgery and darn if it didn't start snowing powder. A big foamy brew at some future date would be appropriate for sacrificing myself.
If that's backcountry trees you mean, just remember any treed slope open enough to make fun turns in when the snow is this deep is also open enough to slide (so sayeth the instructors I've learned from, and they've pointed to pretty tight but turnable trees as an example).
I'm going for lifts tomorrow, and am watching to see what the east side looks like for the weekend for a (hopefully) little lower hazard level.
Thanks for the inspiring report from Crystal!
I'm going for lifts tomorrow, and am watching to see what the east side looks like for the weekend for a (hopefully) little lower hazard level.
Thanks for the inspiring report from Crystal!
Thanks for the timely update, Zap. I know some people are planning on skiing tomorrow (myself included) and it is good to get a first-hand report on the likely backcountry conditions (hazards). Sounds like tomorrow should be a good day for staying in the trees.
Many fine runs in the Colpiti (sp?) creek drainage, in fact! And some great photos in the low light up on that opposite wall from where you entered. And the finest midnight ski I've ever done up to the edge of that drainage. That does it - I'm going to start doing the research to book a week next year!!
Jim,
The owners of GAH and Sentry Mtn have a great relationship. In the summer, I understand they conduct traverses from GAH huts to Sentry. On one of our sunny days, we skied into Colpitty Creek drainage which you probably skied while at Vista hut. Our entry was completely across the valley from where Vista skiers enter down the steep pass. Sentry and GAH talk daily on "the party line" and make certain that only one of them is in the drainage. I believe this i...
The owners of GAH and Sentry Mtn have a great relationship. In the summer, I understand they conduct traverses from GAH huts to Sentry. On one of our sunny days, we skied into Colpitty Creek drainage which you probably skied while at Vista hut. Our entry was completely across the valley from where Vista skiers enter down the steep pass. Sentry and GAH talk daily on "the party line" and make certain that only one of them is in the drainage. I believe this i...
I've done 4 trips into those GAH huts you flew over, and the skiing was awesome each time, ranging from late January through early April. The folks we went with said they've gone 7 additional years, and never had a bad line. The terrain is low enough that it tends not to get quite as hammered by wind as places like Fairy Meadow, and the tree skiing is generally awesome, which is great for storm days but nice for other days as well! I don't know about Sentry, but the only lack at GAH is the big g...
Yep, I remember you guys, Peter. Thanks for the kind words.
As far as your partner Rick's email goes, I don't have it, but if he is Rock Randall you can send him an instant message using this forum's IM feature.
Next weekend should be memorable, eh?
As far as your partner Rick's email goes, I don't have it, but if he is Rock Randall you can send him an instant message using this forum's IM feature.
Next weekend should be memorable, eh?
Sounds great, Zap. You certainly had the weather working for you. Alf Skrastins and Albi Sole are lining up University of Calgary OPC (Outdoor Program Centre) trips there for next year. They were enthusiastic (but hadn't visited it yet). After reading your report I'm going.
Wow. Nice report, Zap.
That's another one to put on my list. Thanks.
That's another one to put on my list. Thanks.
My friend George and I were with Rick and saw you guys up there. Nice turns!
Peter Steilberg.
Hey if you know Rick's email -- shoot him mine. I lost the scrap of paper that he wrote it on.This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Peter Steilberg.
Hey if you know Rick's email -- shoot him mine. I lost the scrap of paper that he wrote it on.
:)
Never fear, Robman. We're saving some special lines for you and maddog for when each of you get back into the action... and we might even get Kam and his gang to ski with you!
Now if I can just remember to let you know when I'm within about 15 minutes of my fun limit.... ;)
Never fear, Robman. We're saving some special lines for you and maddog for when each of you get back into the action... and we might even get Kam and his gang to ski with you!
Now if I can just remember to let you know when I'm within about 15 minutes of my fun limit.... ;)
Joe,
Glad that you folks passed on the movie! It was great meeting you and your party. We were impressed with your tele turns! You can always share a slope with us. Email me anytime for info on Mt. Baker Backcountry.
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Gregg
Glad that you folks passed on the movie! It was great meeting you and your party. We were impressed with your tele turns! You can always share a slope with us. Email me anytime for info on Mt. Baker Backcountry.
Gregg
Rain pelted the windshield as we drove through Skagit Valley early Sunday morning on our way up to Mt. Baker. The weather seemed pretty grim (at least compared to sunny skies the day before). Going to see a movie in Bellingham was even suggested. The lure of snow won, though. Even marginal snow is better than most movies (well, sometimes). We skinned up towards Herman Saddle in crusty, icy conditions. Visibility ranged from clear broth to pea soup (say, what movies are playing anyway?). Deciding...
Well that does it ! between Andys ,Dorothea's and Ron's reports I'm puking. Just puking.and I missed a chance to ski with Kam too.
" I turn around about 15 mins before Ron stops having fun "
" I turn around about 15 mins before Ron stops having fun "
Greg,
Thanks for your report. We ( 2 telemarkers and 1 AT skier) got off to a leisurly 9 am start after a delicious, hot and very filling breakfast at the Mountaineers Baker lodge. Saw your tracks, but we spent the "early" part of the morning on the N. side of Table Mountain. Very nice powder over there, avy report was right on, bomber snowpack. We got up to the saddle about 1 pm. Yes, anything that got sun Saturday was pretty crusty on the way up. It made for easy trailbreaking...
Thanks for your report. We ( 2 telemarkers and 1 AT skier) got off to a leisurly 9 am start after a delicious, hot and very filling breakfast at the Mountaineers Baker lodge. Saw your tracks, but we spent the "early" part of the morning on the N. side of Table Mountain. Very nice powder over there, avy report was right on, bomber snowpack. We got up to the saddle about 1 pm. Yes, anything that got sun Saturday was pretty crusty on the way up. It made for easy trailbreaking...
"A clever skier will often find an oasis of good snow while the rest of the party -- within a few yards of him -- are struggling with crust." Sir Arnold Lunn
Always liked this observation (a quote from the inventor of the slalom race), Ron. It really applies this season. Happy hunting!
Always liked this observation (a quote from the inventor of the slalom race), Ron. It really applies this season. Happy hunting!
Sounds like a good move to me. Our little group has a saying, "Why leave good snow to look for good snow?"