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A great day for July turns! Thanks for everything guys! ;)
- Superb, glad you lucked out with the weather, & the aerial photo was another good bonus.
Nice! The chutes didn't melt out as much this week as I thought they might -- glad you got in them.
Yeah, the south climb and the summit are in tough shape for skiing. Easy bootpacking though.
Yeah, the south climb and the summit are in tough shape for skiing. Easy bootpacking though.
Cool - must be nice to get in that area without all the crowds. I would have thought that would be all melted out by now - looks like it holds the snow pretty well in the canyon...
that's funny. I told Brenda that kind of looked like Markharf down there. We should have went ahead and dropped down to say hey.
Yah, that was me clambering back out of the canyon I'd dropped into (still skiable to 4500 feet) and up to the ridge for another run. You left some nice tracks out there, glinting in the late-afternoon sun by the time I finally staggered back up Bob's "hairpin turn" and headed homeward.
Snow cover was disappointing, yes, but not too terribly bad for mid-July following record heat and drought. Suncups were soft and forgiving, even on my fat, flexy...
Snow cover was disappointing, yes, but not too terribly bad for mid-July following record heat and drought. Suncups were soft and forgiving, even on my fat, flexy...
Fun day in the mountains! Thanks for being the tour guide Dave. Here's a couple pics:
Update july 12
If in doubt follow the guy in Flannel !
If in doubt follow the guy in Flannel !
Went back today with Ken Z. & Robie. Perhaps they will post photos. Lots of hemming & hawing at my place since the weather didn't look too encouraging. Sure would be nice if the NPS could figure a way to keep the Paradise webcams operating between dawn and 8AM; surely a remote turn-on is possible?
We were able to start skinning in dense fog after a very civilized 200' carry from the 4th Crossing lot. I was surprised how much snow had melted since Friday. It'...
We were able to start skinning in dense fog after a very civilized 200' carry from the 4th Crossing lot. I was surprised how much snow had melted since Friday. It'...
It's 8) that you guys got out.
Still skiable today (July 11th), but just barely. The chute entrance is now melted out (short "portage" on volcanic rubble to narrowly continuous snow in the upper chute). Lots of jump turns and some side-slipping on sun-craters in the upper third of the chute, along with dodging protruding rocks. Mid- and lower portions of the chute remain in much better shape (much smoother on skiers-right). Guessing the snow within the upper chute may be discontinuous within...
We were intending on skiing the skier's right or dead fall line to the skiers right of the cleaver. Unfortunately 0 viz made me have doubts skiing a half-mile wide bowl with no landmarks or rocks. It's definitely the way to go, though.
- just a tip, the run that continues below the upper chute, has a more consistent fall-line than looker's right of the Hotlum/Wintun ridge. it is obvious at the bottom, where to traverse back to climber's right.
and when you ski by the large rock below the chute, staying left is safest.
Great Report, and pics.
and when you ski by the large rock below the chute, staying left is safest.
Great Report, and pics.
Thanks Gary ,
Seems like the right tour to work my self back in from vacation.
most likely try and work it in on sunday.
Seems like the right tour to work my self back in from vacation.
most likely try and work it in on sunday.
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Thanks for the TR! BTW-- did the upper wy'est look pretty cupped out or did it look ok; or better yet, smooth?
Upper looked great actually. There were 3-4 sets of ski tracks from the top of the face, looked smooth and sweet to me, i'd give it at least an OK.
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Sorry, no photos. My wife took our camera on her trip to Japan.
Well...how about some photos of Japan then..?
Thanks for the TR! BTW-- did the upper wy'est look pretty cupped out or did it look ok; or better yet, smooth?
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If you're wanting to know if the entrance to the chute is totally gone, you can just barely see it (when visibility allows) on the Paradise webcam.
Good tip. Thanks Greg.
Sorry, no photos. My wife took our camera on her trip to Japan.
I really do think skiing Rainier Th/Fr put me in great shape for Adams on Sat & Sun, especially since we took it super-slow to Camp Schurman on Thursday (about six hours) and then Friday to the summit really just isn't that big of a day since Camp Schurman positions you so close. All that acclimation just me feel great on Adams. (Too bad I'm back now at sea level for the foreseeable future!)
The Presis do have many (many) options beyond Tux, although then aga...
The Presis do have many (many) options beyond Tux, although then aga...
Yeah - I'm sure that's it. If only I'd skied Rainier on Wednesday/Thursday, I'm sure I'd have been feeling fresh as a daisy on Saturday morning and ready for another 7K of gain! Thanks for the out-of-the-box tip! ;)
Presis - if we run across each other someday I'd love to pick your brain out of curiosity if you've don't lots of skiing beyond the same-old-same-old. I was just moving from XC and alpine into telemark when we moved away from MA, so...
Presis - if we run across each other someday I'd love to pick your brain out of curiosity if you've don't lots of skiing beyond the same-old-same-old. I was just moving from XC and alpine into telemark when we moved away from MA, so...
You'll have to show me around down there sometime- looks like a lot of fun.
Thanks for the report - certainly does give me added motivation to get down there some early summer...
Dear Dr. Telemark: have you ever seen the video Revenge of the Telemarkers? It's been a long time since I've seen it, but your handle just reminded me of it, and of Dickie Hall's general silliness - wondering if that's the source of your username (along with wondering how Dickie and NATO are doing)...
Dear Dr. Telemark: have you ever seen the video Revenge of the Telemarkers? It's been a long time since I've seen it, but your handle just reminded me of it, and of Dickie Hall's general silliness - wondering if that's the source of your username (along with wondering how Dickie and NATO are doing)...
Andy,
I think you have pegged the meter. Way to keep it going in style.
I think you have pegged the meter. Way to keep it going in style.
I really want to do this mountain. Thanks for the TR as a reminder to look south once in a while.
Dr. Telemark
Dr. Telemark
great write-up, Ryan; esp. like the closing paragraph and Spricenieks quote, resonated with me.
i was impressed that you and Dan were able to slay, with precious little recovery time, after that long approach. Given your understandable fatigue, i commend your "moment of clarity" and decision to calmly switch to a little more downclimbing, despite probably not wanting to.
Years ago I had these two tag lines together as a signature:
"Only those who will...
i was impressed that you and Dan were able to slay, with precious little recovery time, after that long approach. Given your understandable fatigue, i commend your "moment of clarity" and decision to calmly switch to a little more downclimbing, despite probably not wanting to.
Years ago I had these two tag lines together as a signature:
"Only those who will...
Great TR. My boy and I have been bc skiing since he was 6 and it is our passion together. We think he might have some "youngest" moves as well, not least of which was breaking the Pineapple trail at age 10. Some things in life just can't be beat, and skiing a 12,000 foot volcano with your son is one of them. Bravo.
Congrads guys
to say it is epic is a understatement
to say it is epic is a understatement
Good pics ryan. Your shots and words give a cool perspective to the decision making process that always goes down. Way to stick with your instinct.
author=Snow Bell link=topic=13730.msg57356#msg57356 date=1246257429]
(the skiing from now until the snowpack replenishes sucks anyway.)
Except for all that July corn! ;). Seriously though, I've found plenty of fine distractions.
Thanks for your kind wishes. Recovery should be fun and educational :).
Also - Lowell had a succinct reply here that he deleted that focused on fatigue as the leading cause, if...
We left our camp near Glacier Gap around 1:30 (?), White Pass about 4 PM and were back at the car some time after 9 PM but before one needed a headlamp in the dark forest. We didn't hurry and took plenty of breaks but kept a consistent pace when moving.
Wow Amar! I met you on Shasta (splitboarder) last May, the week after your steam vent epic, and haven't really followed your TRs this season until now....looks like your slaying it!
That's a bunch of vertical in a very short time considering you actually took time out to sleep!!!!
Way to continue getting after it, I'll look forward to running into you again one of these days!
That's a bunch of vertical in a very short time considering you actually took time out to sleep!!!!
Way to continue getting after it, I'll look forward to running into you again one of these days!
Thanks for the TR Ryan and awesome work all of you !!
I have lots of experience with potentially undermined snow in the Presidentials back home, so I was quite confident that the snow would support me on skis . . . well, except for this one final connecting section, but any possible drop looked trivial.
Two Adams summit runs two days in a row was relatively easy after getting acclimated on the summit of Rainier the prior day. We spent almost an hour and a half up there. The next two days on the Adams summit, I felt like I was...
Two Adams summit runs two days in a row was relatively easy after getting acclimated on the summit of Rainier the prior day. We spent almost an hour and a half up there. The next two days on the Adams summit, I felt like I was...
The first-stringers do it again. Amazing line that I hope to plumb one of these days. Dan, way to get the two-fer.
Great write up! How long did it take to slog back to the car?
Bill
Doyle
Bill
Doyle
Yeah, it took a little faith to put skis back on after the short carry from the bottom of the dirty face (on which I turned in the white patches). It was hard to see if the next snowpatch went past the first creek constriction, but I decided even that was worth it to save my legs from a little steep downhiking even if not from a time saving perspective. When I saw that it went further... and kept going... SCORE!! Thanks for using the altimeter - I wondered afterwards how low I'd skied. I li...
Nice job - I like Keith's photo of Mack in the fog. Mack, your comment about poles made me go check ours, but nope, we brought all of ours back last week. If the area was new to you, and you want to see it in good visibility, you can check out my tr from last Friday.
Nice skiing shots Keith! You need to twist Mack's arm to shoot some of you next time. I's not fair for him to get all of the "Mackognition". ;)
Nice skiing shots Keith! You need to twist Mack's arm to shoot some of you next time. I's not fair for him to get all of the "Mackognition". ;)
Ryan, Dan, Eric, Sky - super effort - stay safe on them thar steeps.
Kind of late (sorry!), but here are my pics and Greg's TR from June 28:
http://picasaweb.google.com/jshefftz/20090628Fryingpan
http://www.randosaigai.com/fryingpan062809.html
http://picasaweb.google.com/jshefftz/20090628Fryingpan
http://www.randosaigai.com/fryingpan062809.html
Kind of late (sorry!), but here are my pics and Greg's TR from June 28:
http://picasaweb.google.com/jshefftz/20090628Fryingpan
http://www.randosaigai.com/fryingpan062809.html
http://picasaweb.google.com/jshefftz/20090628Fryingpan
http://www.randosaigai.com/fryingpan062809.html
Jonathan,
Thanks! I really like the picture of the lake. I got distant views of it, but even then the colors were striking.
Alan
Thanks! I really like the picture of the lake. I got distant views of it, but even then the colors were striking.
Alan
Ha! Small world -- I think we were in the chutes at the same time. We took a leisurely lunch at the meltwater tarn near the bottom. Glad you had such a great trip out here.
here ya go (but sorry i can't figure out how to attach my large size photo so you can see -- you on the summit ... and jason's and kyle's turns on disappointment and east of the climbing route -- so go to:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/33792231@N00/3698896801/sizes/l/in/set-72157620978750667/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/33792231@N00/3698898553/sizes/l/in/set-72157620978750667/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/33792231@N00/3698896801/sizes/l/in/set-72157620978750667/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/33792231@N00/3698898553/sizes/l/in/set-72157620978750667/
I showed up Saturday afternoon, needing a rest after a 16-hour door-to-door North Cascades trip the prior day, but wanting to get in some skiing, and close to White River Campground.
Sunrise definitely fit the bill.
Some pics:
http://picasaweb.google.com/jshefftz/20090627Sunrise
Sunrise definitely fit the bill.
Some pics:
http://picasaweb.google.com/jshefftz/20090627Sunrise
We were there just six days later, and indeed conditions had deteriorated:
http://picasaweb.google.com/jshefftz/20090629UpToEmmonsFlats
Then we were there again going up Thursday, and back down Friday -- seemed even worse.
It's fine for accessing Emmons, but as a ski destination on its own, best to hit it as late in the day as possible to at least make all the suncups soft.
http://picasaweb.google.com/jshefftz/20090629UpToEmmonsFlats
Then we were there again going up Thursday, and back down Friday -- seemed even worse.
It's fine for accessing Emmons, but as a ski destination on its own, best to hit it as late in the day as possible to at least make all the suncups soft.
We talked with you on the hike in and out -- here are our pics from that same day:
http://picasaweb.google.com/jshefftz/20090626NorthCascades
http://picasaweb.google.com/jshefftz/20090626NorthCascades
author=Jim Oker link=topic=13778.msg57571#msg57571 date=1246734350]There were a few ski carries along the traverse and down toward the creek, but aside from that, we were able to ski down a snow finger along the creek (which is undermined by water of course - and there are spots that won't go much longer...) to something like 6,500 (didn't check an altimeter).
That was definitely the way to do it. Unfortunately, on Saturday I...