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Love your persistence... and lemonade.
author=Lowell_Skoog link=topic=20987.msg89699#msg89699 date=1306904189]
This might not be your personal opinion, but it IS mine. Snowmobiling on Mt Baker is a travesty.
You can add St Helens to that travesty list as well.
author=Salal link=topic=20990.msg89667#msg89667 date=1306881611]
requiring bushwack, waterfall, downclimb stuff.
Sounds like fun!
Glad you finally got your ski boards up on hibox.
Great trip Amar, Daves, Stephanie and Kat! And nice write up Amar- lots of respect for your thoughts and the way you express them.
Wow! As always Amar great trip and photos. We tried this exact route last Saturday in pretty poor weather; turned around at 8200 in a complete white out. Glad to see someone got the goods.
The road is definitely an added challenge to this route, with over 2 miles of flat, mushy snow to skin/ski down after the long hike.
The road is definitely an added challenge to this route, with over 2 miles of flat, mushy snow to skin/ski down after the long hike.
author=Scotsman link=topic=20987.msg89701#msg89701 date=1306905792]
Well as Lou Dawson says in his Wild Snow blog when commenting on the criticism to his son Louie's snow mobile assisted skiing on Mt Baker.
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But I’d agree with anyone that shared use is something we’ll be refining over coming years. Meanwhile, with the vast quantities of legal Wilderness we have, we already have plenty of un-shared use and I for one appreciate it — as I do...
author=Lowell_Skoog link=topic=20987.msg89699#msg89699 date=1306904189]
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This might not be your personal opinion, but it IS mine. Snowmobiling on Mt Baker is a travesty.
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Well as Lou Dawson says in his Wild Snow blog when commenting on the criticism to his son Louie's snow mobile assisted skiing on Mt Baker.
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But I’d agree with anyone that shared use is something we’ll be refining over coming years. Meanwhile, with the vast quantities of legal Wilderness we have, we already have plenty of un-shared use and I for one appreciate it — as I do the areas where we can share, and sled, and drive, etc. etc… End Quote.
If it's OK...
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But I’d agree with anyone that shared use is something we’ll be refining over coming years. Meanwhile, with the vast quantities of legal Wilderness we have, we already have plenty of un-shared use and I for one appreciate it — as I do the areas where we can share, and sled, and drive, etc. etc… End Quote.
If it's OK...
author=Amar Andalkar link=topic=20987.msg89695#msg89695 date=1306903204]
Thinking logically on the issue (this is NOT necessarily my personal opinion), the legal snowmobiling area on Baker is already much too large. This appears to have been a huge erroneous misguided giveaway to an inappropriate, highly-polluting, special-interest activity with a powerful political lobby when the Mount Baker Wilderness boundary was set in 1984. If any adjustments need to be m...
author=Scotsman link=topic=20987.msg89685#msg89685 date=1306891884]
The wilderness boundary lines obviously were demarcation lines marked on a map rather than accommodating the natural topography. They come to an apex on a steep slope.
Wouldn't it make more sense to rearrange the boundary lines so that the sledders had a natural flat place to stop such as where Amar has marked on his map ( and they seems to be stopping anyway) That way they can...
Sorry to hear the weather spoiled your plans. We observed the building storm from the Mt. Angeles area as the day progressed on Sunday. If snow conditions in Royal Basin were anything like what we found on Angeles, it might not have been the best weekend to attempt a big line on Deception.
Hopefully the 5th time will be a charm. ;)
Gary
Hopefully the 5th time will be a charm. ;)
Gary
Glad to see you back out in the mountains Marcus.
Looks like you had the best two partners a guy could ask for on a character building trip like this! ;)
Gary
Looks like you had the best two partners a guy could ask for on a character building trip like this! ;)
Gary
Everything was solid above Myrtle, but I may have oversold the "skiable terrain" we were in -- we mostly just climbed up through the trees to try to find something we could point downhill on and move without poling...
Right on. I too have the night trains (the old lightening bolts and wolf head ones) but only as resort skis. I had thought about using the tahoes or belafontes as a touring skin with dynafits.
Thanks for the feedback.
Thanks for the feedback.
Nice Marcus
With a little enthusiasm, all things are possible... eventually.
We attempted a quick slot trip and while the weather was fine (mostly filtered sun), we turned around when the upper slopes turned into a shooting gallery. As we transitioned through the recent freezing level from last week, we first saw a slow wet slide started from warming rock. We thought, no problem, stay well below the start zone and we have time to react. As we rounded the c...
With a little enthusiasm, all things are possible... eventually.
We attempted a quick slot trip and while the weather was fine (mostly filtered sun), we turned around when the upper slopes turned into a shooting gallery. As we transitioned through the recent freezing level from last week, we first saw a slow wet slide started from warming rock. We thought, no problem, stay well below the start zone and we have time to react. As we rounded the c...
The wilderness boundary lines obviously were demarcation lines marked on a map rather than accommodating the natural topography. They come to an apex on a steep slope.
Wouldn't it make more sense to rearrange the boundary lines so that the sledders had a natural flat place to stop such as where Amar has marked on his map ( and they seems to be stopping anyway) That way they can finish their legal trip at a place where it makes sense and provides a natural stopping point rather t...
Wouldn't it make more sense to rearrange the boundary lines so that the sledders had a natural flat place to stop such as where Amar has marked on his map ( and they seems to be stopping anyway) That way they can finish their legal trip at a place where it makes sense and provides a natural stopping point rather t...
Good to know it's not just us! We were planning on crossing earlier but ended up going to Myrtle when we realized that weather/time wasn't on our side this time -- we just wanted to get to a known geographic location :)
Blitz, we had a full kit -- we would've been pretty cozy if we'd had to bivy, with our stove, big puffies, bivy sack and two tarps. Figured it was a good day to take a little extra insurance. It's all training weight an...
Blitz, we had a full kit -- we would've been pretty cozy if we'd had to bivy, with our stove, big puffies, bivy sack and two tarps. Figured it was a good day to take a little extra insurance. It's all training weight an...
Great effort. I have a similar fail on almost the same route a few weeks back. I crossed the creek much earlier and head up slope to enter the NW Col which offered more vert than continuing to Myrtle tho more of a traverse. I miscalculated the time of the approach in almost the same way and had to call it before heading up for the summit. The mid fork is a character builder.
awesome pic .. we almost headed out that way for 2 nites .. but the forecasted t-storms scared us off .. nice work steve
Nice effort! I've been thinking about this area the last couple of weeks. Did you come in from east of Rachel Lake? I can't remember where the official trailhead is... I've been thinking about the Lake Lila/Rocky Run approach.
Here's my pix: https://picasaweb.google.com/TrevorL.Williams/WhistlerMtnLibertyBellNorthCascadesMay2011#
gee marcus, your backpack looks like it is full of all kinds of stuff, a regular mary poppins tote :D. welcome back!
Here is a link to some more photos. Including a few on the way up Whistler. All were shot with my android phone so quality is a little lackluster.
https://picasaweb.google.com/108365037500696236927/WhistlerMtWestCoolyAndLibertyBellArea?authkey=Gv1sRgCKDBz_CDhfiHVw#
https://picasaweb.google.com/108365037500696236927/WhistlerMtWestCoolyAndLibertyBellArea?authkey=Gv1sRgCKDBz_CDhfiHVw#
She was a total trooper and had a blast -- kept up with me full-tilt-boogie going down, barking all the way, but she was pretty wiped by the end.
Yeah the picture of the down trees would have gotten me stoked for getting firewood, probably not skiing. ;)
I think your pooch says it all in the picture.
Where's the machete?
I think your pooch says it all in the picture.
Where's the machete?
Nice work, guys. Was eyeballing those couloirs while heading up towards Liberty Bell to ski part of Madison Ave and Early Winters Couloir on Monday... those two lines are for sure on the future hit list.
Excellent trip report. I was on the rescue yesterday and we went up to 7,900 to check crevasses. Saw your tracks. It was obvious your snow conditions were better on Monday then on Tuesday. We had a death grip on our skis coming down.
I like your comments on the crevasses there are a lot of them lurking just under the surface so please don't just blindly travel the glaciers thinking everywhere is safe.
I agree with your comments about the snowmobliers...
I like your comments on the crevasses there are a lot of them lurking just under the surface so please don't just blindly travel the glaciers thinking everywhere is safe.
I agree with your comments about the snowmobliers...
Nice TR! I spotted Whistler Mtn. about 10 years ago from the top of the Blue Lake Col and thought what an awesome line that would be. Glad you got it. I especially like the photo looking down at the options...reminds me of Mt. Superior in Little Cottonwood Canyon. Would be interested in seeing a photo with your route up and down.
Thank you for taking the time out to educate the sled-heads. I've found *education* is the key. Be nice, leave a positive impression so folks *want* to change not rebel.
Yeah, lemonade slurpees for all!
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:D
E gad... good to see that you are slowly breaking in. ::)
Nice! Looks like we weren't the only ones making lemonade... :)
Great trip selection for threading the weather window. Big day.
Way to get back out there, sounds a bit brutal but fun!
author=kevino link=topic=20899.msg89631#msg89631 date=1306826789]
Great pictures Garrett. Just curiuos, the person with the quardrants, is he skiing on moment skis? curious what model if so...
Yup you got it. He is on the Moment Night Trains. I also skied those this winter and really enjoyed them. Moment has not branded themselves as a backcountry AT ski company but they are all I use with Dynafits because they s...
Awesome TR -- that's quite the crew. Also, really good to start seeing some of those big slabs cutting out. Maybe things are finally settling...
thanks for the photo mick, that's an awesome perspective.
I am awfully impressed by Kyle's tenacity and stamina getting up Silver Star !!
Most excellent Amar, Kat, Dave C, Dave B, and Stephanie!!!!
Damn-it Amar,
You've single handily cost me over 1100 bucks, and you're going to cost me more with a trip report like this! You're the reason a dude in TX got into Skiing and more specifically, AT Skiing. Every time I see a TR of you and your pictures you make me wish I lived in WA (I'm working on that part).
On a side-note. Great shots as always, keep up the fantastic work and maybe one of these day i'll get a chance to actually ski with you if I e...
You've single handily cost me over 1100 bucks, and you're going to cost me more with a trip report like this! You're the reason a dude in TX got into Skiing and more specifically, AT Skiing. Every time I see a TR of you and your pictures you make me wish I lived in WA (I'm working on that part).
On a side-note. Great shots as always, keep up the fantastic work and maybe one of these day i'll get a chance to actually ski with you if I e...
Great pictures Garrett. Just curiuos, the person with the quardrants, is he skiing on moment skis? curious what model if so...
Glad to see that you and Anastasia were on snow again. You guys are in great shape. That was quite the approach - true dedication. :)
Great TR and photos. The powder turns in late May are a memory that will last a lifetime. ;)
