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Yes, the road to the climbers bivouac is open. Even the pit toilets were unlocked.
It took us a little under 3 hours to the summit. We waited up there for quite a while for the weather to clear, and it was a pretty quick run down to where the snow ended and then a bit of a walk out - maybe 2 hours down with lots of hanging out and enjoying the scenery along the way.
Sounds great, how long did this tour take?
Thanks for the report.  We're hoping to do a bit better with the weather this weekend.  So the road is already open to Climber's Bivouac, or did you park at the Cougar gate and ski the road?

Thanks.

Mark

 
I remember the fourth of july's at jones beach.

j
I was up there Saturday with intent of snowboarding down Muir, but the aforementioned grim crust, less than encouraging reports from descending skiers, and cloud ceiling at about Alta Vista level led me to choose Plan B: Castle/Tatoosh. Which was not great, but at least had softened a little by 1PM. Someone else's report from Chinook that snow needed consolidation also holds for the Tatoosh; at one point I fell in some kind of hole where about 3 feet of snow basically dropped out from under me a...
I suspect that soon there will be a lot of rocky areas on the ridges that will require taking skis off, but otherwise there should be a decent bit of snow up high still in 2 weeks.
Doing a high tour, you'll be OK (unless the weather does something radical for a NW spring).
Thanks for the info.  I'm planning a multi-day traverse, sticking to the high ridges, so I'll be spending most of my time above 6000 feet.  At that elevation I'll probably find enough snow to ski on, don't you think?  I suppose I may have to drop down off the ridge onto north-facing slopes in some areas.

-Josh
Coverage is good (2-3') about 5200', where you break into the open at the bottom of Earl. Coverage below that is mostly thin, non-existent in places in the woods on the approach and non-existent below the Bean Creek/Beverly Turnpike trail junction. I was burning my P-Tex candle today. Two weeks will be pushing this tour's practicality.
Sounds fun.  How good is the snow cover up there?  In particular, above what elevation would you say everything is completely covered?  I'm planning a trip in a couple of weeks, and I'm trying to figure out how much snow is going to be left for me.  :)

-Josh
I promise not to continue violating the rules of this forum any more with non trip report info. in this spot. So this my last.  Additional Crystal Mtn. info. will be in its proper location from here on out.

I received a reply to my second e-mail to Larry Donovan, the USFS winter recreation coordinator.  He now understands the problem is bigger then he originally thought and talked with the resort managers, the White River ranger district and the permit administrator for the Forest Service...
We never did the entire b-day tour (our ski train was moving a little too slow Sunday morning).  There is still a rather large cornice at the col, but it is easily passable by booting around its left side.  Conditions on the south side were softening slush which quickly refroze when some clouds moved in overhead.  On the north side was a combination of still nice powder on the steeper sections below the col and breakable crust that melted into a nice wet powder by the afternoon. &...
what were the conditions like on the bday tour ?? especially getting across the col, is there still a cornice ?
thx!
Once again I contacted Larry Donovan from the Forest Service.  He was good enough to reply to my first e-mail.  He said that they had sent a enforcement officer to the area the weekend of the 19th - 20th, who talked with some snowmobilers and had also posted the area.  I was up there last Sunday but did not see any signs.  But then I didn't go looking for them. As mentioned above, the snowmobilers where out in force again.

I would suggest that all who read this, to ple...
Skinut thanks for the great report.  If Ron and I and Robie hadn't been helping with the Mountaineers Glacier Travel and Crevasse Rescue class this past weekend we would have been at Chinook enjoying all those great turns with you and Bob.  Looking forward to seeing both of you at Mt Hood this weekend.
Hey Greg, the 18th might work, a little to early to tell at the moment.  Keep in touch.
yes Skinut, it was definitely more like winter up there. Although the snow was a bit heavy, the skis turned fine for everyone in our group. Chinook is one of our favorite areas for spring skiing - close to Seattle, higer elevation and lots of snow. You'll be sure to find us there in the weeks ahead. Let's hope WDOT doesn't open the highway for a few more weeks, the solitude at the pass makes the short climb from Cayuse well worth the effort.
Tom, I would recommend getting Earl in the next week or two. Snow is thin in the woods on the approach.
We asked a ranger at the gate, and were told May 23 is the opening date for Stevens Canyon.  I don't know who is correct.  From Unicorn, the road looked prety much clear further down, but appeared to have snow piles coming down in several places.  Maybe they need to clear again, or let it melt out for a few more weeks...
Hiked ~1 mile to the bridge at the trailhead. Continuous snow just beyond the Bean Creek/Beverly Turnpike trail split. Skinned the rest. No creek crossing as creek is bridged by avalanche debris (but this will go fast).
Thank you.  Do you have pretty solid information about the May 1 opening date...the MRNP web page said something about est. May 23 for Steven's Canyon.  
No, certainly not.  I went up there for just the reason that you describe; I was in Seattle until 1:00, and wanted something nearby on which to tire myself.  It looked like there would be lots of nice terrain around for anyone who 1) had some concept of where to go, or 2) arrived five or six hours earlier than I did.

And if you hiked up into Bean Creek Basin to access Earl, how low down can you start/end skiing? Near the stream crossing, or way higher?
Someone else recently posted here that USFS says they're not supposed to be in the closed ski areas, so it may be worth a call to them to report what you saw, if only to be sure they know what they aren't bothering to police...
It's a tough comparison - Snoqualmie verus the Noocksack area. It's a rare day when Snoqualmie will win that battle, but the Summit ski areas are a great alternative to stairsteppers as an exercise regimen after work when the lifts are running (50-60 minutes from my office even in rush hour). And once you learn where to go, there is some fine skiing mid-winter (especially in non-drought years where we're doing better than 70% of normal snowpack) when the snow level drops to 2000 or below.
You will be booting through at least two minicliff bands at the bottom of the slide, probably a minimum of 200 vertical feet that there's no way you can ski at least if you do it the way I'm familar with, leaving the waterfall just to your right. The watercourses that feed the waterfalls are also sounding alarmingly close to the surface  just above there and might soon make annoying barriers to skinning the slide. I've heard tell that there is another way down these cliff bands on the downh...
Brent,

Thanks for the report. I am sure there are more folks like me wondering how the access back there is coming along. How about the snow pack? Any guesses on how long it will last?

Thanks,

-T. Moate
If you saw skiers on the W side of Hawkins, that would be our party of 3. Only other people we encountered was a party of 3 snowshoers who did not go above 6500' on the SW ridge.
wolfs,
How is the snowpack holding up down low in the forest, towards the bottom of the Phantom slide path?  Still enough snow to ski around the rocks and stumps?  Any guesses on how long it will last?  I'm thinking about some tours near Alpental soon and am curious how long it will last.
Thanks,
Matt
What a difference a day can make!  It must have dumped on Ellinor all day Wednesday.  We climbed it Friday morning, and found 10-12 inches of powder on top of the old crust.  It was well enough bonded, but we wanted to get down it before the sun got to it.  One of the best trips down I've had on Ellinor.  It's got more snow now, above 4000ft, than it did 2 months ago.  Maybe this snowpack will hold out for a while now.
I think we saw you across the basin from us. Were there four of you?

We hiked up the 4WD road toward Huckleberry Mountain (nearly 1000 vf with no snow), took a nice run between Huckleberry and Hawkins (best snow of the day) and then made a climbing traverse through forest and occasional avy debris below Hawkins. We returned via the south spur of Hawkins, a nice loop trip.
USFS is not going to do anything, I think they are beholden to them, as I found out after inquiring with Pinchot-Gifford why snow mobilers are allowed to motor all the way to the highest crater rim of St Helens, and they don't even have to pay the climbing fee! Seems to me the USFS is a    "for-profit" outfit, not one to protect our public lands.
Greg, the "Wild Hearts" photos are just posted on an msn site that is set up specifically for folks to post their own for free (until you start using up a lot of space).
The easiest way is to just set up a hotmail account and then go to msn from your hotmail page and set up you own photo alblum.
Mad Dog (and/or Ron, if you view this message!): I want to post my fotos from my Italian Alps trip, but don't have a place. How might I post them on "Wild Hearts"?

I'm getting my fotos back this weekend. I've also got May 18 and 31 on my calendar. Are you 2 interested in something in the Chair Peak Basin, possibly South Face of Chair Peak? It'd be a true "Alpine Start" time.

Thanks for the help...Greg Lange (This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.)

PS: Looks like you h...
amen My hip just hurts looking at that route

but if I was younger>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8)
I finally had time to look at your report - wow! Makes the reader feel like they were there, which in my case is good, because that's the closest I'll get to actually doing it. I started skiing too late, and I'm getting conservative in my old age.
My impression is that you need a Northwest  taxed times two forest pass. Not that I use one.
CW -- do you still need a sno-park pass at Marble Mountain sno-park?
Whoa.  Serious stuff, skykilo. Looks like from your home page you've skied more in the last year than I have in the last 20.  

Beautiful photos and text.  Thanks.
Jack Mountain, eh?  Thanks for the suggestion.
Good ski, guys! >:(

I remember being camped on Sahale Arm about thirty year ago, listening to the ice fall sweep the lower part of this potential route with ice calves about every half hour, deciding it was not worth the risk of climbing.

I never considered it as a ski route until Ben mentioned it last year. I put the glasses on it last June and decided it would probably go. Figured it would get done this spring, since the Cascade Glaciers no longer provide the ice cannons they...
Thanks RG ! Now lets see how good it all works. I know Iv'e been up there in the past after closure or before opening day and employees have taken snomobiles up to drop fellow workers off to ski.A gang of them highmarking is something else.
I have only recently found this website and just by chance happened to be at Chrystal mtn. last weekend.  Judging by the pictures it looks like your get together was a lot of fun.

I also couldn't help but notice the snowmobiles using the area.  Like you, this was a first for me.  I can't remember seeing them at any time in the past.  So I contacted the Forest Service and received a nice reply from Larry Donovan.  He said that snowmobiles are not permitted in the s...
I think we saw your nice tracks; you must have hit it just right.  I have to go back there some time.
I think a slough becomes an avalanche when you're on the receiving end  :)

Bill