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I saw your tracks.  Nice line.  The snow in your shots looks much fresher than when I was up there yesterday.  It is starting to feel like winter again.
author=george link=topic=11088.msg45606#msg45606 date=1224820281]
No good photos! So you didn't get one of me ...


Please, Bob - send one of George or Zack to Telemark tips so we can stop looking at that lame guy with the oversized goggles.  They deserve it more than him! :D
Well, here were a few that I'll put out there.  The camera was being tempermental, so most of my shots were out of focus or not properly exposed.
 
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author=zackalope link=topic=11088.msg45597#msg45597 date=1224800659]
It was a good day out.  Apparently I was having too much fun skiing to take any pictures worth sharing.



I will send you some pictures,Zack, but I will need your email address. You are in several of 60 odd photos that I took.
author=zackalope link=topic=11088.msg45597#msg45597 date=1224800659]
It was a good day out.  Apparently I was having too much fun skiing to take any pictures worth sharing.

George - we took the same way down that you guys did.  I was surprised that I didn't slide out more than I did skiing the thin snow over ice.


No good photos! So you didn't get one of me augering in at the end of that inauspicious run. :-[ T...
We definitely had a nicer day on Wednesday. We didn't see your tracks above camping area or on the area that we skied. The wind may have wiped the snow clean. Our group crossed the 1,000' snowfield  a couple hundred feet above its terminus and then followed the wind scoured ridgeline on the west side to the second highest point. After dropping into the smooth, clean slate of a snowfield, I remembered to send a message on my SPOT tracking device. The arrow points to the location th...
Welcome to the web world of getting turns on the snow all year, Andy and Mike. Don't hesitate to throw an invitation on TAY for partners when you get tired of each others company or just want to share the snow with other fanatics. As you read above, my group wouldn't have happened without this site.Good times and good friends!

Ran into guys on the ridge,surprised to see the whole slope already schralped, we got stumped on the crevasse section on the Coleman glacier,
I also took a header on the hike out, traverse below the glacier.Great weather for October.
Nice work boys!I ran into you the other day with my brother Andy!We realized we should have caried a lader to forge across the crevasse at the crux of the coleman route,it was nice having the opton of doing laps on Helitrope!
Take care!
mIKE tRASLIN
It was a good day out.  Apparently I was having too much fun skiing to take any pictures worth sharing.

George - we took the same way down that you guys did.  I was surprised that I didn't slide out more than I did skiing the thin snow over ice.
Great day with all you folks. Thanks so much. Sorry I had to leave early.

The worst part of that day was that it had to end! Thoughts of it will ease me to sleep for a couple of weeks, at least!

Curious about which way you came back down the ice patch. Did you hook up with the bootprints where we were slipping?
I wish I could have made it up there on Wednesday with you guys!! I am really looking forward to meeting some TAY people.  I agree with your assessment of the ice, and each of us in our Tuesday group each fell a couple times.  It seems like you guys had the bluebird all day yesterday, where as on Tuesday the sun left us towards the end.
Looks like a Slingshot Fuel.
Regular skis this trip. If nothing else it felt good to be skinning for the first time in a couple months. Plus, if I was going to (re)discover that I don't know how to figl worth a damn, I didn't want to discover that at the top of a 2.5K vert run that took several hours to climb, on a good snow day ;D

Kiter had a snowboard. His kite was one of those "Fuel" models that can cost 400$ or more (edit: BrownC9 is right is "Fuel" not "Flow" I had the...
I must agree with Rusty Knees that the the initial assesment - 3"to 6" of new snow over bullet hard ice - seemed rather dismal, but perseverance and determination proved that goods were to be had.  Great group, great skiing and great pizza (pinapple, salmon and garlic)!!!


climberdave aka dLove
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Thanks for spearheading the trip, Bob.  I'll only add a few thoughts:
1.  Re: the recent "Tele **** What" thread - The Tele guys outnumbered the AT guys 4-3.  But who's counting...
2.  When we started across the slope with bullet proof ice under the new snow, and we were all falling repeatedly, I thought the trip was going to be great hiking trip, with no good skiing.  I was happily wrong.  Deliriously happily wrong.  So the old sa...
author=wolfs link=topic=11089.msg45580#msg45580 date=1224744298]
Beautiful evening light. Not sure I've ever done a Muir trip where I deliberately stayed so late, but the snow and the temps were both so nice that there was no hurry in leaving.


Same as my experience Sunday - mighty fine!
Hi Wolf - Great pictures - was the kite surfer using a snowboard?  You duplicated our trip from September almost exactly... except we didn't have to wade through snow on the trail.  What a great day to be out, huh?  Regular skis or firnspiegls?  ;D
Nice TR, especially liked the photo of the chutist.

I hope any lurking Meadow Rovers appreciate your slushy trail fortitude!  NPS managers take note:  continuous rock lining on trail margins often keeps snow & meltwater/refrozen ice on the trail.  This design flaw contributes to the meadow damage when less intrepid visitors avoid these sections.
I've still got wounds healing from that ditch into the ditch.  Worth it, though.

The soonest I'll be able to get out will be Sunday.  Do you think any of that beautiful snow will still be around then, or should I wait another week in hopes of more addicitive white powder?
author=iWill link=topic=11086.msg45569#msg45569 date=1224718358]
Skiing to the car in October...priceless.


We skied almost to the car 10 days ago - then we both rocked our skis when we ran out of snow and had to ditch into the ditch! 

Congratulations on your first FULL year.  Welcome to TAY. 
We were on the other side of the mountain today, probably where you were last week.  Trip report comin...
i know, sun and warmth for the whole forecasted week.
Nice!  Looks like it's melting now and going to be warm all next week :-[
author=atbetty link=topic=11069.msg45557#msg45557 date=1224649502]
Love the picture.  ... How does this form?  I was going to share this with my class.

Hoarfrost forms when air of just the right dampness comes in contact with a surface that's below freezing. Once a crystal starts to form it can keep growing as long as conditions stay at the delicate balance point where the water vapor directly crystallizes into ice without becoming...
Yeah, those crystals were almost big enough to ski. Very cool formations, especially 10mm away from them! God I love macro photography!

Skierlyles, I tried to go slow enough for you to pass me, but crawling was no longer an option!!! :D

It was great to meet the famous Scotsman! When I posed the rhetorical question at Camp Muir, "Why the hell do I do this?", he responded by saying "It's kind of like repeatedly hitting your thumb with a hammer-it sucks whi...
author=Dr. Crash link=topic=11069.msg45502#msg45502 date=1224562008]
Good times and god company for sure. It was nice meeting new people, matching faces to handles, and getting some turns in!

drC
Love the picture.  At Ptarmigan, I saw similar formations but what I saw at Ptarmigan was more like needles.  Hubby wasn't interested so I didn't get any pictures. How does this form?  I was going to share this wit...
At the risk of taking a great trip report even further off-topic...

A store that sells new husbands has opened in New York City , where a woman may
go to choose a husband. Among the instructions at the entrance is a description
of how the store operates:

You may visit this store ONLY ONCE! There are six floors and the value of the
products increase as the shopper ascends the flights. The shopper may choose any
item from a p...
author=atbetty link=topic=11070.msg45551#msg45551 date=1224646015]
Yes I do!  Do you want to meet the lesbian, or the other who is married and has three kids!  Neither skis.  Strange but true.


Brilliant reply. I was fond of Cookie Monster's wry and ironic retorts and Snow Bell's always good for a laugh but this is a classic. You funny. ;D
                 
author=Alaskier link=topic=11070.msg45541#msg45541 date=1224634847]
This is my wife, and I have to say I am damn proud of her.  What she didn't say about this trip was that I suggested we hike out by the Chain lakes trail.  Not being the map carrying kind (who needs em, right?) I didn't realize that this meant a significant amount climbing to get back to the car.  It seems that route drops a lot, but then climbs back up to almost the high point again...
author=danengel link=topic=11069.msg45469#msg45469 date=1224518541">
More pics here from our much smaller group.


Re the following image:



Isn't that sooooo cool? And when there's enough hoar frost, you can actually ski it (it's sometimes cal...
Fun times were had. Here's a pic of Jeff's air:



and more pics here:

http://picasaweb.google.com/jay.w.wilkinson/MuirSoItBegins#
does she have a sister?  :)


This is my wife, and I have to say I am damn proud of her.  What she didn't say about this trip was that I suggested we hike out by the Chain lakes trail.  Not being the map carrying kind (who needs em, right?) I didn't realize that this meant a significant amount climbing to get back to the car.  It seems that route drops a lot, but then climbs back up to almost the high point again, before dropping to Bagely Lake.  It was just about dark when we got to the truck.  She's a troope...
Good times were had by all.

Thanks to : the drivers for carpooling (Altasnob and Scottsman), Teleskichica for representing "tele-____", Dan Engel for trying to let me pass him (and for representing splitters out there, nice group pic btw), Snowbell for sparing us the nipples, Scottsman for his bubbling personality, Altasnob for the great pics (making me look better than I am), DrCrash for his helpful skiing tips and wild ride in the car (the nickname does come from somewher...
Thanks, trumpetsailor. Pics are now included!
author=cjm720 link=topic=11082.msg45523#msg45523 date=1224609948]
PS - I have plenty of pics but when I attempt to post (multiple tries) I get this error: "Sorry! There is already an attachment with the same filename as the one you tried to upload. Please rename the file and try again."  Any tips?


Rename the file to something different and try again. It's occasionally annoying, but it's also an opportunity for...
What a wonderful day to be on Rainier.  We put together a fun group and enjoyed excellent skiing conditions.
I was nice to meet you Dr.C and also good to run into Dan at Muir.  Thanks to my friends for making it a great outing.

author=telemack link=topic=11069.msg45482#msg45482 date=1224539880]
What the 'ell is that Snowbell doing with his shirt on???


Sorry Mack.  My nipples were starting to get chapped. ...
author=cjm720 link=topic=11082.msg45523#msg45523 date=1224609948]
All and all, a great day and company for my 24 month TAY!


Congrats on the burgeoning streak.

author=cjm720 link=topic=11082.msg45523#msg45523 date=1224609948]
PS - I have plenty of pics but when I attempt to post (multiple tries) I get this error: "Sorry! There is already an attachment with the same filename as the...
author=atbetty link=topic=11069.msg45504#msg45504 date=1224562542]
Great pictures, we should have gone to Muir.  Looks like there was some freshy fresh. OK, much more than there was at Ptarmigan Ridge-where there was none.


I think the only thing fresh we encountered was the waiter at Puerto Vallarta on the way home.  ::)
Ahh, but the snow.  According to Scotsman, anything new had dissipated and consequently, we were on some p...
author=Teleskichica link=topic=11069.msg45458#msg45458 date=1224478023">
Not it, not it, not it. 
No one's really sure who lost, but I've got the pictures, so please stand up and identify yourselves.
We'd like to tell you where we were, but it's a rather public stash and informing those in the know is a "duh" factor and for those not, well we'll just have to show you.  ;) Snow was hard, winds cold, sun beaming (but...
Good times and god company for sure. It was nice meeting new people, matching faces to handles, and getting some turns in!

drC
author=spltbrdr link=topic=11072.msg45472#msg45472 date=1224519700]
Snowtroll and I headed up Saturday morning to get our October turns in.  Burst through the clouds just below Paradise to catch a few glimpses of the mountain and were on th trail by 9:30.  The cloud level continued to rise with us finally clearing at about 7200'.  We made a short detour to visit a friend before heading up the snowfield.  Snow was firm but there looked to be hope as the su...
Are you talking about avalanches in the existing snowpack or in snow that might fall in the near future? There will certainly be some avalanching if there is a sufficient quantity of new snow. If just a bit of snow falls, then maybe it's important to figure out if, recently, crust or other unfriendly elements formed at or near the snow surface. ( Future instabilities often form in exposed snow. ) You can't easily produce a forecast of the type you request without very specific informat...
author=Travertine link=topic=11070.msg45465#msg45465 date=1224514093]
The patch shown in the first  photo was exactly 400 feet
vertical on September 30 down the right fork, and 200 feet vertical on the (visible) left fork.  At least out the left fork looks about the same here.

The only difference between September 30th and now is that you had to walk farther for it.
Thanks, my husband didn't even have a map.  He...
author=Rusty Knees link=topic=11070.msg45462#msg45462 date=1224509508]
Good job Atbetty!  When you have lemons (October ice) you make lemonade (Icetober turns).  Way to keep it going.  Good on  you photographer hubby, too.
Thanks, I think it is snowing up there today. : ) This was my goal, but my husband loves it, hence the supportive photography.  Yesterday, I suggested that, next year, we should try to ski in a different state, e...
   
          Thanks for the good snow rpt. I'll let ya know if we get some before you guys do  (Sierra - Tahoe) area.
Thanks for the TR. Sounds like wednesday might be a good day to head out.

Also does anyone know about the avalanche potential on the paradise to muir route i.e. leaving aside obvious areas around panorama point and the glacier facing slopes? Looking at the number of people on that trail I was wondering if theres ever been any incidents.
Have no fear Telemack, shortly after that picture was taken , he had his shirt off aswell and the two of them where posing like an Abercrombie & Fitch ad campaign for the Paradise tourists!
Hi Dan---first time since Baker I've seen your name in TAY.  Good job getting out with the twin-plankers.

What the 'ell is that Snowbell doing with his shirt on???
It was a quite a party up there at Camp Muir!!! Beautiful day to be on the mountain.

More pics here from our much smaller group.