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yeah, i thought that would be my back up spot if i couldn't get up the road. The road is fine, kind of rough but certainly drivable for even a 2wd, just a lot of big pot holes. You can drive within about 2/3 of a mile of the pass.
I would not call any of the snow bad, the higher slushy stuff was just more challenging, definitely bring your widest skis. And it just got firmer and firmer as you lost elevation, at the end of the tour some of our group thought doing laps to the top of Chair 1 would have been better skiing, not as panoramic a tour.
We chose Alpental because it is half the drive that Crystal is for us.
We chose Alpental because it is half the drive that Crystal is for us.
This shot of Todd could be in an add for something! Very nice
Hi, thanks for the beta.
Do you think Alpental Mon around lunch and afternoon would be decent?
I am debating Alpental or Crystal (if anything at all).
Where would you say the good snow started - lower 'Nash?
Cheers
Ivo
Do you think Alpental Mon around lunch and afternoon would be decent?
I am debating Alpental or Crystal (if anything at all).
Where would you say the good snow started - lower 'Nash?
Cheers
Ivo
Yeeesssss!
Nothing like some firm Maine Noisy Corn in near June to make your day!!
A good half inch of edge purchase for carving is all that a guy needs... Shush... Shush... Shush... on and on... this Rocks. Opps, didn't see that wind ridge coming up. Visibility sucks. Exciting. Should find my uptrack for some depth perception…
Better slow down. Damn... busted through... almost bought on that one. Huummm. Better side slip a bit and see what's comin' up....
Nothing like some firm Maine Noisy Corn in near June to make your day!!
A good half inch of edge purchase for carving is all that a guy needs... Shush... Shush... Shush... on and on... this Rocks. Opps, didn't see that wind ridge coming up. Visibility sucks. Exciting. Should find my uptrack for some depth perception…
Better slow down. Damn... busted through... almost bought on that one. Huummm. Better side slip a bit and see what's comin' up....
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I thought i would try to hit the narrow weather window this morning and got to Hyak this morning at 9 am.
Sounds familiar, Silver was our intent, at about the same time. We headed for Alpental instead, shorter drive, quicker altitude gain. Thanks for the report, how was the condition of the road?
author=kneel turner link=topic=16755.msg70486#msg70486 date=1275252535]
I'd rather carry skis than snowshoe... And I hate carrying skis ;)
But if you find a pair of skis I would even tele with them on my pack down, ;D
If I found a pair of snowshoes I would probably leave em,
I'd rather carry skis than snowshoe... And I hate carrying skis ;)
Anyone been up towards Snow Lake recently? A friend wants to showshoe it... worth it bring the skis along, or am I just going to get drowned in some concrete?
Thank you, redshift! Very nice.
Photos make it look like "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" flying, but I think of it actually as Vegetarian skiing: lots of plants, little carving.
Photos make it look like "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" flying, but I think of it actually as Vegetarian skiing: lots of plants, little carving.
Thanks for sharing your experience today. I kept looking at the webcams and telemetry and decided to catchup on some other projects.
The webcam images from Bachelor and Shasta looked very sunny. ;)
The webcam images from Bachelor and Shasta looked very sunny. ;)
Skiers, blessed, dance with gravity
Witness the face plant
Ecstasy
Witness the face plant
Ecstasy
We 3 did laps there, too and probably saw you. Not too heavy to ski, but a bit too foggy to see well. The photo is not photoshopped and gives a good impression of sense of where the surface was. Quite a few plants of various sorts for us, too. Saw lots of skier and boarders at the lower lot as we went up to the Yakima Pk lot. East facing slopes were easier than west facing. Be careful if the sun comes out tomorrow. The snow is really saturated.
"... One of those rare times where the dirty snow was what you wanted."
Wolf - I love it when you talk dirty to me!
Wolf - I love it when you talk dirty to me!
Looking good. Heading out to the Enchantments tomorrow. May is the new January.
author=JoshK link=topic=16778.msg70424#msg70424 date=1275080962]
Any idea how the Ingalls valley bottom looked? could one ski all the way down then skin over to Stuart, or is it melted out at the bottom now?
Didn't get a direct view, I'd say it's 50/50 on whether still snow in valley immediately below Longs. But there's definitely enough for skiing into basin and below the treeline.
Last Sunday we skied from Long's Pass on a descending traverse to the valley bottom and could cross the creek on a snowbridge to the bottom of Ulrich's. There was continuous snow up into the couloirs.
Thanks for the report, Wolf. The south side of Stuart still looks good. Any idea how the Ingalls valley bottom looked? could one ski all the way down then skin over to Stuart, or is it melted out at the bottom now?
Thanks Stoked.
Your first photo shows a pretty "evolved" cornice, but it looks like others I have seen in the past, including shed blocks. Still scary though. I would assume that lots of the snow that constitutes the full roll on that thing is a result of the new snow, especially since the cornice already discharged lots of blocks.
Alan
Your first photo shows a pretty "evolved" cornice, but it looks like others I have seen in the past, including shed blocks. Still scary though. I would assume that lots of the snow that constitutes the full roll on that thing is a result of the new snow, especially since the cornice already discharged lots of blocks.
Alan
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yikes! That cornice looks a lot bigger than normal. Is it just the perspective of the shot?
Alan
Looks bigger to me.
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For JoeDaBaker: I have a PDF copy of the Chinook Pass Avalanche Atlas if you're interested. Also, do you actually bake?
Yeah that's the name of it Thanks Cookie for the reminder. I got a copy online once you reminded me of the data sheets. Anyone interested can find it here
we hit those same spots the prior day and pretty much flushed all those bowls. however, we had anywhere from 4" to 10" and the 1st / 2nd turn sent each slope we ripped.
slabs consisted of the last two days' worth of snow and were slow moving heavy snow slides. firm bed surface. they did run long and had 3-4 ft tall debris piles. heavy doses of sun radiating thru the clowds even while it snowed.
manageable but you had to watch the bowls to the left or rig...
slabs consisted of the last two days' worth of snow and were slow moving heavy snow slides. firm bed surface. they did run long and had 3-4 ft tall debris piles. heavy doses of sun radiating thru the clowds even while it snowed.
manageable but you had to watch the bowls to the left or rig...
Inspiring! My To Ski List just got a bit longer.
There is a large amount of alpine terrain from ~5500 ft upwards. Alpine areas, being devoid of vegetation and completely exposed to wind and sun, make wonderful avalanche starting zones. Avalanches that start in the alpine are often large, and unimpeded by ground cover, can accelerate rapidly and descend into the trees below.
Once a path is established, frequent avalanching prevents regrowth. Paths gradually enlarge because the return period of Size 3 avalanches is often shorter than...
Once a path is established, frequent avalanching prevents regrowth. Paths gradually enlarge because the return period of Size 3 avalanches is often shorter than...
Wonderful TR and powder photos. It's hard to believe it's the end of May. The photos are an inspiration for Jill for next season with her new hip.
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Great photo of the avalanche on Goat Island Mountain. The avalanche terrain in this area is really interesting.
There are ~50 avalanches paths on Goat Island Mountain; many are slowly enlarging. It's utterly fascinating to imagine that decades of future avalanches will slowly strip the trees from large sections of the mountain. The large bowl where the avalanche was shown...
Every year I tell myself this is the year I check out the entiat... way to go! Thanks for the inspiring TR!
yikes! That cornice looks a lot bigger than normal. Is it just the perspective of the shot?
Alan
Alan
Looks like a fun time earlier in the month. We drove up the Cutthroat road last w/e to check it out and the snow was almost down to the highway but then a local gal said there were lots of bare patches on the trail lower down. We decided to give it a pass this time around.
Went up the Birthday Tour sans Traverse. Nice cornice threatening the route.
Went up the Birthday Tour sans Traverse. Nice cornice threatening the route.
yeah, saw you up there :-)

The snow was nice from Muir Snowfield down to Edith Basin:


The snow was nice from Muir Snowfield down to Edith Basin:

That shot of the Tats from what must be lower Mazama Ridge Rocks! Those clouds, rocks and snow with blue splats here and there say it all...Well done! ;D
Nice TR and video. I may head up there in a couple of weekends.
Thanks for the TR and pics. Sounds like a great area; I'm inspired!
Good one!
I tried last year ,thanks for the report.
I hope the weather gets better, I am looking for people who are heading that way in the near future....
I tried last year ,thanks for the report.
I hope the weather gets better, I am looking for people who are heading that way in the near future....
I thought that was a John Travolta Saturday Night Fever pose.
Nice. I like the Usain Bolt pose especially in your last photo. very cool. :D
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Stimbuck, do you know how often paths such as Kempers, Big Bertha run large? Do you guys have size/frequency/runout data ( a:b ) estimates for paths in this area?
There is a PDF file online someplace, I can't find my own copy (yet) that gives the history of all the avalanche zones that could possibly effect hwy 410 and 123. It is an old copy by WSDOT pre...
Great photo of the avalanche on Goat Island Mountain. The avalanche terrain in this area is really interesting.
There are ~50 avalanches paths on Goat Island Mountain; many are slowly enlarging. It's utterly fascinating to imagine that decades of future avalanches will slowly strip the trees from large sections of the mountain. The large bowl where the avalanche was shown has a very obvious flattening in the runout zone that prevents must prevent most avalanches from descending i...
There are ~50 avalanches paths on Goat Island Mountain; many are slowly enlarging. It's utterly fascinating to imagine that decades of future avalanches will slowly strip the trees from large sections of the mountain. The large bowl where the avalanche was shown has a very obvious flattening in the runout zone that prevents must prevent most avalanches from descending i...
Very sobering picture from John S. When we were first in the basin Sunday I saying to RichB and DarylW that the steep (appr 40 degree) north slope one climbs to get onto the Frying Pan could get very touchy if the sun gets too warm on all the recent fresh. The poor viz did us a favor in selecting other options. It seems a good deal less consolidated on the more northern aspects and that picture sure amplifies that!
Regarding that inquiry about White River CG road being open--when we g...
Regarding that inquiry about White River CG road being open--when we g...
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NWAC may post a photo, if not I'll reply with one later this week.
It's posted. Thanks! :).
Does anyone have suggestions for ways in which NWAC can make some of its deeper resources more visible on the web? For lots of resources on their web page, you have to look through a couple layers of li...
Is your photo from Sunday? We observed a large crown (~5') in the E bowl, likely from a cornice drop- we have seen a similar sized slab in Morse Creek from Cornice drop on a NE slope. NWAC may post a photo, if not I'll reply with one later this week.
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Wow Ron, those look great! Are you already thinking of making another set, maybe more of a manaslu size?
author=Jim Oker link=topic=16755.msg70179#msg70179 date=1274813525]
I'm wondering how cover for the Chair Peak circumnav might be looking for this weekend
Folklife festival this weekend, perfect timing! Alpental road was closed yesterday at the covered bridge parking lot, so you will have to glide out that far from Source Lake most likely.
Iwas out to pineapple pass Saturday. Coverage on the traverse back in was still OK (only a few small dirt patches to step over). But it was certainly thinner than the week before. We did say a few times "This flat part might not be any fun in another week."
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Making little hop turns in solitude by the fading light of a late May sunset after work helps put job prospects near Washington D.C. in the proper perspective; this is a special place.
Indeed - you gotta love being able to leave the city after most folks have ended their work day and still be able to get in a fun tour like that.
So did either of you get...
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The only time I have ever skinned up O meadows.
and maybe the last time I will ever skin up O's meadows!