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I think the big reason for this is due to avalanche control. If a back country skier/rider enters a closed are from above or outside the permit area in the Heather / Clark Canyon system, they could be in the line of fire from the Howitzer.
The one thing I have never understood is the policy of no hiking outside permit area if you rode the chairlift. A prime example of this would be the White River Canyon. It is an incredible ride to drop into White River from the moraine...
The one thing I have never understood is the policy of no hiking outside permit area if you rode the chairlift. A prime example of this would be the White River Canyon. It is an incredible ride to drop into White River from the moraine...
We were there (Dicey, ChainsawWillie and Mtn Man). Best run was off of Powder Bowl, nice knee deep blower pow. See you up there next time.
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I bet that the Eastern slopes held some nice pockets.
The west side not so much.
Thanks for the beta I may have to head that way this week.
The west side not so much.
Thanks for the beta I may have to head that way this week.
They interviewed Silas on KING 5, he was on the evening news, identified as "Cy Wild" and stating that "This is the closest you can get to Utah without actually being there."
The video is online (but missing the Utah quote): http://www.king5.com/home/Washington-states-largest-ski-area-opened--109358459.html
The video is online (but missing the Utah quote): http://www.king5.com/home/Washington-states-largest-ski-area-opened--109358459.html
MarkeyZ, We kept looking back waiting for you to catch up and help break trail! :p Glad you got some of the goodness! Sweet tuque btw.
Some photos:
Some photos:
What route did you take to go up to the new area?
author=cchapin link=topic=18020.msg76242#msg76242 date=1290209855]
ok, so silver basin is now lift accessible (via the traverse)? great
edit: high campbell isnt open yet were u riding lifts or what?
Upper lifts were not open. We skied from the base.
author=Kyle Miller link=topic=18017.msg76247#msg76247 date=1290211529]
Nice report. West face looked epic.
^^^^^^^^ you are in trouble Kyle Miller. Ride on chair and let your buddies walk???????
Hey, I didn't know about the Martin Rand @ Crystal thing. That is newsworthy. The idea that you could get a boot worked on, run-test it, and then take it right back in for further tweaks, it's brilliant. I definitely need some work on my stock-crappy Spirit3 footbeds to make them bearable, I come back from any long tour hurting bad.
What kind of turnaround for his work was typical, while he was still working at Sturtevants?
And BTW what is Daves Demise? Is that th...
What kind of turnaround for his work was typical, while he was still working at Sturtevants?
And BTW what is Daves Demise? Is that th...
Nice meeting you as well, Dave. Snoholic, I guess that was you and crew I met in the parking lot. Would've been closer behind you if I didn't keep having to go back to the car for the things I forgot (jacket? backpack? I was lucky I remembered to put on my ski boots.) Thanks for setting the skin track in from the top of chair 4. Looks like you guys skied the main shot down from the saddle between boxcar cornice (which doesn't have a cornice yet) and the chu...
Nice report. West face looked epic.
ok, so silver basin is now lift accessible (via the traverse)? great
edit: high campbell isnt open yet were u riding lifts or what?
edit: high campbell isnt open yet were u riding lifts or what?
author=Snowolf link=topic=17965.msg76219#msg76219 date=1290192397]
The one MAJOR exception to this is DO NOT enter an inbound closed area. For example, say you climber up Wy East and wanted to ride down into Clark Canyon. If Clark is open that is fine but if they have Clark closed, they would not be happy and could have Hood River County Sheriff greet you.
great reply Snowolf, it's too bad Meadows does not post yo...
It'd be so much work to haul skis up CBR, but the descent down the backside in your last picture would be so nice...
Ale is one of the few people I know that wouldn't hesitate with an idea this stupid...sorry. You forgot to mention that the wind and spindrift machine stopped as we dropped away from the lake. I feel like I got kicked in the family jewels...but in a good way.
Great TR and the photos are spectacular. On the same day, I went to White Pass...man I have got to hit Crystal too.
nice.
do you think we can skin to Silver Basin tomorrow or will the resort get upset?
do you think we can skin to Silver Basin tomorrow or will the resort get upset?
I think he's embarrassed to admit he skied with us.Haha ;) So and so sure can break trail good!
Nice making turns with you.
FUN DAY!
FUN DAY!
author=Boot link=topic=17965.msg76032#msg76032 date=1289974111]
I thought Meadows didn't allow touring/hiking/skinning. Was the gate open or did you just get away with the poach. Thanks and nice images.
As PCG posted, they no longer allow uphill traffic due to opening prep. Prior to this and at the end of the season, Meadows is fair game as it is National Forest and therefore public land. Only during normal season operation...
Thanks for the skintrack boys.
The road up to Crystal was fine. Its still a little swampy around the little lake (hen Skin?) The snow was light and wonderful. Mark if you are out there it was great to meet you.
The road up to Crystal was fine. Its still a little swampy around the little lake (hen Skin?) The snow was light and wonderful. Mark if you are out there it was great to meet you.
author=silaswild link=topic=18001.msg76186#msg76186 date=1290141703]
One of our party rode a slide for a hundred yards or so. It was caused by another group a couple hundred feet above him.
Thanks for the report! It sounds as I imagined it would be. Figured we where missing out on some good pow condtions(I don't mind a rock or two). Ironically, the above quote was my main reasoning for not wanting to go to that area.
That sounds enchanting JW! No smoked salmon, just vacum packed tuna. Maybe that had something to do with it. No fresh smoked, but I still have about 10 pounds in the freezer from last year.
I am gonna try and make it Marcus. Kinda bummed, but I couldn't get a free weekend to go to the OEC refresh. the 12th isn't looking good either.
CBR was the place to be yesterday... SERIOUS downclimbing... ;)
I am gonna try and make it Marcus. Kinda bummed, but I couldn't get a free weekend to go to the OEC refresh. the 12th isn't looking good either.
CBR was the place to be yesterday... SERIOUS downclimbing... ;)
Well done sir! Maybe next time we can stay down lower in the Icicle, where we will be guaranteed thinly covered slabs and rocks. Or a posthole Enchantment traverse? Keep me in mind!
I hope the smoked salmon was good.
I hope the smoked salmon was good.
Sorry you missed out on the wet slab downclimbing -- I heard it was excellent and it may not come back into shape for several months, looking at the forecast...
See you at the OTH?
See you at the OTH?
nice!!
I was considering a dawn patrol before work but didn't wake up till 8
I was considering a dawn patrol before work but didn't wake up till 8
Good one!
I am looking forward to a report....So I can make a good decision of were to go this weekend....
Thanks!
I am looking forward to a report....So I can make a good decision of were to go this weekend....
Thanks!
Yah right on, we know our way around up there. We were up on Saturday so we know where the rocks are/were. Thanks for the notes, we'll be treading very lightly before we step near anything. Conservative calls for tomorrow, its still dumping!
we'll share back our results, play safe everyone!
we'll share back our results, play safe everyone!
My mistake, Silver basin and the gap above (I do not know the name).
author=splitboarder link=topic=18001.msg76171#msg76171 date=1290128078]
nicely done, actually heading to those exact chutes tomorrow. Any snowpack observations? Sluffing, slabbing, windloading? Any natural activity in the area after the storm? How was travel up to the flank of table (deep I bet).
Any details would be appreciated, thanks.
Snowpack seemed rightside up to us, less wind affect than we expected. Uphill tra...
nicely done, actually heading to those exact chutes tomorrow. Any snowpack observations? Sluffing, slabbing, windloading? Any natural activity in the area after the storm? How was travel up to the flank of table (deep I bet).
Any details would be appreciated, thanks.
Any details would be appreciated, thanks.
Thanks for the response Snowolf - very helpful.
Meadows posted this today...
Thanks to everyone who's been up enjoying the snow the last few weeks. As of Thursday morning [11/18], we will be enforcing our "no uphill traffic" policy within the ski area boundary...
You are welcome to use hiking paths outside of the boundary, but please, no skiing down inside the permit area. We will have cats and snowmobiles on the slopes, so this policy is for your safet...
Meadows posted this today...
Thanks to everyone who's been up enjoying the snow the last few weeks. As of Thursday morning [11/18], we will be enforcing our "no uphill traffic" policy within the ski area boundary...
You are welcome to use hiking paths outside of the boundary, but please, no skiing down inside the permit area. We will have cats and snowmobiles on the slopes, so this policy is for your safet...
author=Scotsman link=topic=17967.msg76052#msg76052 date=1290018978]
I feeel your pain after my recent trip to WA Pass for No skiing.
It's money in the karma bank... Kaa Chinnng.
Money in the Karma bank yes..and really... it's a good place to start from since things get better and better from this low point.
author=gregL link=topic=17967.msg76070#msg76070 date=1290025671]
We drove up to Chinook anyway and took a few laps under the watchful eyes of the DOT people and a State Patrol officer, then bailed at about 11:55. The gate was closed but not yet padlocked at Crystal Mt. road as we drove out, we opened it ourselves and waved at the DOT guy . . .
well, you made it in before the DOT guys became snarky.
author=The Snow Troopers link=topic=17967.msg76045#msg76045 date=1290012758]
What a drag. The cat track back to the base must have been really thin. Were you able to ski all the way back to the base?
On a good note, it is snowing right now at Hyak 2,600' (8:51 AM Nov. 17th) and should shorten the drive for that fix soon( I hope).
Nope... 1 inch of snow below the base of Chair 4. quite suddenly there was 10-...
We drove up to Chinook anyway and took a few laps under the watchful eyes of the DOT people and a State Patrol officer, then bailed at about 11:55. The gate was closed but not yet padlocked at Crystal Mt. road as we drove out, we opened it ourselves and waved at the DOT guy . . .
I feeel your pain after my recent trip to WA Pass for No skiing.
It's money in the karma bank... Kaa Chinnng.
It's money in the karma bank... Kaa Chinnng.
thank you, it is a beautiful area
that rock wall is pretty much where you said, along the divide on the north side of Thunder Gl basin, just east of the 7242 high point
that rock wall is pretty much where you said, along the divide on the north side of Thunder Gl basin, just east of the 7242 high point
fear not, for white will soon be the new green - unschluctism
What a drag. The cat track back to the base must have been really thin. Were you able to ski all the way back to the base?
On a good note, it is snowing right now at Hyak 2,600' (8:51 AM Nov. 17th) and should shorten the drive for that fix soon( I hope).
On a good note, it is snowing right now at Hyak 2,600' (8:51 AM Nov. 17th) and should shorten the drive for that fix soon( I hope).
You have some great pics of one of my favorite areas, including those surprising ptarmigan.
I didn't know about the rock shelter you photographed. It looks like it is somewhere along the divide on the north side of Thunder Gl basin. Is it east or west of a direct route up from the hogsback trail?
I didn't know about the rock shelter you photographed. It looks like it is somewhere along the divide on the north side of Thunder Gl basin. Is it east or west of a direct route up from the hogsback trail?
author=savegondor link=topic=17967.msg76031#msg76031 date=1289973094]
The road to Paradise was blocked by old growth blow down.
Bummer. I have some favorite old growth, moss-back buddies along that road. Hope they're still standing.
I thought Meadows didn't allow touring/hiking/skinning. Was the gate open or did you just get away with the poach. Thanks and nice images.
Sure thing and great question.
After digging this pit and seeing the results, I would not have actually gone up into Superbowl itself. I stayed on the Moraine that separates White River Canyon and Heather Canyon and hiked to the 8500 foot level where it plateaus above the top of Cascade.
There was little choice to be made here since my route down was back into Meadows along Vista Ridge, not the Heather Canyon area. This is also where the best snow was. Had I intended to go...
After digging this pit and seeing the results, I would not have actually gone up into Superbowl itself. I stayed on the Moraine that separates White River Canyon and Heather Canyon and hiked to the 8500 foot level where it plateaus above the top of Cascade.
There was little choice to be made here since my route down was back into Meadows along Vista Ridge, not the Heather Canyon area. This is also where the best snow was. Had I intended to go...
author=RonL link=topic=17957.msg75993#msg75993 date=1289916356]
What elevation were you at and what time of day did the slide happen?
We were around 5600 ft elevation and approx. noon for time of the slide.
TobyT - no pictures, but if you look on a map we were skiing off the small summit (6K elevation) south of Bearpaw Mountain and following the drainage that first runs NE and then turns N (heading toward and ending at...