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Now Jim, please tell me you haven't been lurking to catch me on the same page as Mr. Scotsman - again. ;D You should know that I don't carry his water, nor he, mine.. Nevertheless, your point is duly noted. My reference was a bit tongue-in-cheek (with Seinfeld in mind), yet it remains true that etiquette is sometimes hard to find. I see the matter not so much as farming snow, but as yielding space. I prefer to cut my own uptrack, but I'll use another if it resu...

11/29/10 9:56am

Zap

author=Joedabaker link=topic=18201.msg76943#msg76943 date=1291079820]
I'll accept a fortune to just show them. Money must be paid up front though.

Mine has more clear tape on it than paper. ;)

11/29/10 9:47am

rippy

November 28, 2010, Stevens like it used to be!

So that was where it was going off this weekend ! Great vid and a great call on your part(s). I lost count of different parkas, was there a good turnout? You nailed it, keep that mojo goin.

11/29/10 9:41am

Jim Oker

Nice - thanks for sharing. I had fun visiting friends in Coeur D'Alene for the long weekend, but knew I was missing out on some good fun...

11/29/10 9:32am

Jim Oker

I don't live in Seattle. I don't understand the horn comment, but I use my car horn when it will help with safety as well as every now and then to let some a-hole know they pulled a f-d up manouver, fwiw. I do wish more people around here would use turn signals...

There are many ways to promote fine discussion. Some of them even avoid being rude to an entire community yet can get at least as useful a discussion going! Try it sometime...

11/29/10 9:26am

Scotsman

author=Jim Oker link=topic=18210.msg76945#msg76945 date=1291080042]
Sure, I'm OK with stating the obvious when it calls out bullying or trolling. Maybe that makes me lame or something, and I'm OK with that.

Sometimes trolling or presenting another view promotes discussion but you passive /aggressive types wouldn't understand.
Don't honk your horn Jim! That's the Seattle way.

11/29/10 9:24am

Zap

Excellent conditions.

Here's the WSDOT update from a ski buddy. The snowshoe affected depth statement is unique. ;)

"Hi all,

We were able to keep the North Cascades Highway open through the Thanksgiving weekend, despite one slide that closed a lane for a couple hours until our crew could safely clear it.

HOWEVER, we're closing it at 4 p.m. this afternoon and will look at it after the storm to see if we can reopen. We've got a...

11/29/10 9:23am

Jim Oker

Sure, I'm OK with stating the obvious when it calls out bullying or trolling. Maybe that makes me lame or something, and I'm OK with that.

11/29/10 9:20am

Scotsman

author=Jim Oker link=topic=18210.msg76940#msg76940 date=1291079226">
::)
Troll definition (bolding is mine):

Captain Obvious to the rescue.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=captain%20obvious
quote:A phrase quite obviously inspired by John Madden. Contrary to popular belief, Captain Obvious is capable of flying but is afraid to, so he drives around...

11/29/10 9:17am

Joedabaker

author=Scotsman link=topic=18201.msg76935#msg76935 date=1291078208]
I'll sell you mine. Make me an offer.It's got some of Jeodabaker's secret stashes marked on it.... it's worth a fortune. ;)

I'll accept a fortune to just show them. Money must be paid up front though.

11/29/10 9:17am

Jim Oker

author=Scotsman link=topic=18210.msg76903#msg76903 date=1291066494">
New name for Mazama Bowl= The sheep pen or the Lemming lair.
Powder preservation with TAYers=OXYMORON.
How many TAYers does it take to F**K up a powder slope=ONE.
How do you trap a TAYer?. Put in a skin track and then backtrack in the same track, they will follow until it ends and then be immobilized trying to figure it out and unable to move ahead.

::)...

11/29/10 9:07am

davidG

author=Scotsman link=topic=18210.msg76934#msg76934 date=1291077951]
I guess my thoughts( which admittedly I do not always follow as I am an admitted hypocrite) is that its' OK to use another person's skin track out to a certain area but in doing so you should have the decency to extend the skin track past where they decided to ski and ski another slope. To follow their skin track and then ski the same slope is IMHO not correct etiquette.
If that...

11/29/10 8:53am

Scotsman

author=Keith_Henson link=topic=18201.msg76933#msg76933 date=1291077839]
Not anymore unless they just got them. They were one of the first people I contacted...

I'll sell you mine. Make me an offer.It's got some of Jeodabaker's secret stashes marked on it.... it's worth a fortune. ;)

11/29/10 8:50am

Scotsman

author=airpoppoff link=topic=18210.msg76924#msg76924 date=1291074421]
Whats the easiest way from point A to point B? Your line obviously, Why the hell would anyone take any different if you are going to do the hard work?

I guess my thoughts( which admittedly I do not always follow as I am an admitted hypocrite) is that its' OK to use another person's skin track out to a certain area but in doing so you should have the d...

11/29/10 8:45am

Keith_Henson

author=ron j link=topic=18201.msg76930#msg76930 date=1291076278]
Bob Grubb used to have afew for sale at Wapato Wollies.

Not anymore unless they just got them. They were one of the first people I contacted...

11/29/10 8:43am

davidG

I like Mazama Ridge area as much as the next guy ~ which is, of course, part of the problem, but some would argue that it isn't bc ~ it simply isn't inbounds..

can't recall seeing a 'front country' TR in recent times. not even sure what that is.. Loved Susan's and Savegondors urban bc TRs and also David Lowry's orchard tour.

There are endless rewards to be found ~ some near the car or the porch ~ some are crowded, some are not. ...

11/29/10 8:39am

Scotsman

author=Keith_Henson link=topic=18201.msg76915#msg76915 date=1291071901">
Surprised nobody alluded to the Crystal Ski Patrol Blog entry of November 26,
WHAT?! THIS IS A CLOSED AREA? AND OTHER BAD QUESTIONS

11/29/10 8:32am

ron j

Bob Grubb used to have afew for sale at Wapato Wollies.

11/29/10 8:17am

cityhick

Hey that's me about two minutes in...

Thanks for the skin track Larry and Co!

11/29/10 8:15am

Keith_Henson

Nov 28 Lichtenberg Mountain

author=sukiakiumo link=topic=18201.msg76923#msg76923 date=1291073981]
That is exactly what I'm talking about. Though in a slightly higher-res form.

It is a product of the CMAC program and despite my entreaties to the appropriate people, it is long out of print.

11/29/10 8:02am

Lisa

Sounds like a good day out, not as fun as if I had been there I'm sure. ;)
Photos please Yaknam. Especially any faceshots of Jake biting it, those are the ones that make me laugh. Only Jake can handle non stop laughter from others when he falls.

Jeremy and Ari ski well indeed, they ski like pros even backwards, damn I hope to be that good someday.

Hope to join up with you guys next time, the seasons cold got the best of me and had me down for 3 d...

11/29/10 7:51am

airpoppoff

Whats the easiest way from point A to point B? Your line obviously, Why the hell would anyone take any different if you are going to do the hard work?

There will always be postholing idiots with tall-t's, fire lenses and only gear is a shovel and they are going to continually become more common.

Time to figure out somewhere new.

11/29/10 7:47am

sukiakiumo

author=Keith_Henson link=topic=18201.msg76921#msg76921 date=1291073792]
Are you talking about the labeled photograph?

That is exactly what I'm talking about. Though in a slightly higher-res form.

11/29/10 7:39am

GregSimon

We skied silver basin from the lift-served (lazy) side. The traverse out involved lots of scraping rock and cursing, but the skiing definitely did not suck.

11/29/10 7:39am

Keith_Henson

author=sukiakiumo link=topic=18201.msg76918#msg76918 date=1291072767]
Speaking of not knowing the area... (I've just started exploring) there is a nice crystal backcountry map in the ski patrol office. I tried locating it online, anyone know where I can find it? I tried google searches and only found the description of Avalanche basin.

Are you talking about the labeled photograph?

11/29/10 7:36am

cchapin

author=sukiakiumo link=topic=18201.msg76916#msg76916 date=1291072097]
I thought the basin immediately North of those lines on that map was silver basin. Or am I completely out of it? Sorry for any confusion.

You're right, Silver Basin is directly North of your lines. But you skied down a different drainage, so your TR Subject could more appropriately be "Crystal Basin\Lakes"

11/29/10 7:29am

sukiakiumo

Speaking of not knowing the area... (I've just started exploring) there is a nice crystal backcountry map in the ski patrol office. I tried locating it online, anyone know where I can find it? I tried google searches and only found the description of Avalanche basin.

11/29/10 7:19am

sukiakiumo

I thought the basin immediately North of those lines on that map was silver basin. Or am I completely out of it? Sorry for any confusion.

11/29/10 7:08am

Keith_Henson

Surprised nobody alluded to the Crystal Ski Patrol Blog entry of November 26,
WHAT?! THIS IS A CLOSED AREA? AND OTHER BAD QUESTIONS

11/29/10 7:05am

PNWBrit

Those count as SW...

Except that's Crytal Lakes Basin and not Silver. I was just puzzled where you'd found SW aspects there. Should have read your post better.

11/29/10 7:03am

sukiakiumo

author=PNWBrit link=topic=18201.msg76912#msg76912 date=1291071293]
???

Ok, so maybe face isn't the best term. Here's a map for what I mean.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=46.911608,-121.495571&spn=0.015274,0.037637&t=p&z=15&msid=105373491754741210108.00049638f84241f36a7d9

11/29/10 6:58am

PNWBrit

author=sukiakiumo link=topic=18201.msg76842#msg76842 date=1291005831]
SWesterly face

???

11/29/10 6:54am

kath

November 28, 2010, Mt Baker, Lake Ann

we recently took up bc skiing for the solitude but are sadly discovering that you really have to search for it these days

11/29/10 6:40am

kath

awesome ..

11/29/10 6:37am

juan

$$$

11/29/10 6:24am

alpymarr

November 28, 2010, Mt Baker, Lake Ann

Agreed. Seems like these days if you can afford the AT setup then you automatically know how to use it..? Spot is blown for sure, used to have many days there alone when everyone was over on Bundys or Golden Gate. All good things end, at least on weekends. I feel like people would rather stand in a group waiting for the ambitious guy to pick a line and a establish a track then to actually make their own. Its easier that way. Lets go skiing soon Scotsman, we probably have a lot to complain about...

11/29/10 5:56am

Thanks for breaking trail. It helped.

11/29/10 5:42am

cjski

Alpental 11/24

author=rockme2 link=topic=18116.msg76776#msg76776 date=1290914426]
Are you kidding? I skied that day from the main parking lot at Alpental Resort (the furthest access rd is still closed), up to Source Lake and the bench at 4500' below Chair Peak's ridge. There are rocks everywhere and the resort was still closed with brush alder showing on all runs. Get it right.

Sounds like someone is a little bitter. Seriously.....

11/29/10 5:39am

Scotsman

November 28, 2010, Mt Baker, Lake Ann

New name for Mazama Bowl= The sheep pen or the Lemming lair.
Powder preservation with TAYers=OXYMORON.
How many TAYers does it take to F**K up a powder slope=ONE.
How do you trap a TAYer?. Put in a skin track and then backtrack in the same track, they will follow until it ends and then be immobilized trying to figure it out and unable to move ahead.

11/29/10 5:34am

Kenji

shuksan poking out in the late sun

11/29/10 5:19am

cchapin

November 28, 2010, Stevens like it used to be!

Awesome. Thanks for sharing.

11/29/10 5:03am

Alex Ford

Not much to add that hasn't already been said. The snow was light and super forgiving. Anyone who didn't get around to shaking out the early-season legs this weekend did themselves a serious disservice.

The early departers were sorely missed on the last backside run. Thanks again for the introduction to the area, and I hope you see you folks around this year.

11/29/10 5:02am

sukiakiumo

author=Scotsman link=topic=18201.msg76890#msg76890 date=1291062858]
You'll all be bitching and moaning when REX is on wind hold and all of us who bought gondola upgrades with our season passes are riding up in comfort, getting freshies down frontside and lapping the goodness while you misers are meadow skipping down Queens run!
Mark my words.
$89 bucks/50 visits over the season= $1.78 per visit for me. Less than a tall skinny latte!
<...

11/29/10 5:00am

Scotsman

Nov 27, 2010, Summit East, Hybak

Very nice Jeff.
Wish I'd bitten the bullet and done the drive this weekend.
You going to be guiding the Heli-touring this year again?
Last year's trip with you still one of my best trips ever.

11/29/10 4:42am

trees4me

so the backside was pretty well filled in? Have they done any clearing of the new run they cut last year?

we got up late on sunday, got to hyak about 2. did a couple frontside laps before dark. lots of people out, including the booters in the skin track (always a crowd favorite)

coverage was pretty minimal, i was surprised to see patches of gravel slope out up 3/4 of the way on the face. But the snow skied well and had more base to it than i expected...

11/29/10 4:38am

Scotsman

Nov 27, 2010, Skinning at Stevens

author=sukiakiumo link=topic=18201.msg76887#msg76887 date=1291062387]
Perhaps they're waiting for people to actually shell out the extra $$ in their passes to pay for it, before they finish it?? In that case it might be a while :-o

You'll all be bitching and moaning when REX is on wind hold and all of us who bought gondola upgrades with our season passes are riding up in comfort, getting freshies down frontside and lappi...

11/29/10 4:34am

trees4me

We got to the pass around 5pm, and it was amazingly tracked out. Since it was dark, we did a quick lap up big chief and enjoyed the cut-up powder in our LED infused glow. nice night

must've been pretty crowded during the day.

11/29/10 4:32am

sukiakiumo

author=Scotsman link=topic=18201.msg76885#msg76885 date=1291061974]
Judging by progress .......it could be a while. ::)

Perhaps they're waiting for people to actually shell out the extra $$ in their passes to pay for it, before they finish it?? In that case it might be a while :-o

11/29/10 4:26am

Scotsman