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awesome stuff.
Im assuming your buddy is ok from that slide at the end of the first video?!?
you know how i love that you get back there in winter .. tamanos is a fave haunt of mine .. you just make me want to go there NOW! .. just like the last time you were on the sarvant

btw .. awesome video .. great camera technique ..
Nice Kyle. It looks like you are a trail breaking machine out there...as always. Hopefully I can join you on a mission soon.

p.s. that avy looks realllly scary.
author=Kyle Miller link=topic=20070.msg85230#msg85230 date=1299693713]
Filled in and epic conditions for all 2,200 feet.

I have a idea for a rad tour once the weather clears out.


I was thinking about that run when I was giving you a ride up the other day and we were talking Tamanos.
Uhhghhh....I don't think a skier has ever skied that, just boarders. I can think of one maybe...
You give us skiers somethin...
Filled in and epic conditions for all 2,200 feet.

I have a idea for a rad tour once the weather clears out.
author=Kyle Miller link=topic=20070.msg85223#msg85223 date=1299692383]
Not wanting to retrace our steps once again we rode down the Sarvant then skinned up Tamanos col, rode down to Owyhigh lakes then traversed to the NW avi chutes of Tamanos where we rode a large avi swath to within a mile of the snowmos.


I know exactly the swath you are speaking of and I have wanted to ski that for years. How was the vine maple at the bottom?? C...
I want to see some pictures of Tyler's blower O face, I know more must exist somewhere.
Yes, pretty sobering report and VERY helpful.  The logic the author used was similar to the logic I would have used or maybe exact.  I was in the area a couple weeks ago in the cirque to the lookers right or to the W/SW or up the White Pine valley one more over.  Same logging road access.  For what it's worth you can get higher in very thick timber on ridgeline terrain but like the swath things change VERY quickly from safe to dangerous. 

I get the feel...
Awesome Kyle, thanks for posting.  Great catching up with you at Crystal the other day, hopefully under better circumstances next time.
thx .. i'm actually really looking forward to strapping on the boards this spring and heading back up there for some sweet corn .. we are new at bc skiing and thought we would have a tough time skiing in those conditions .. i hear ya zap (our bc teacher up at snoqualmie pass who warned us) .. btw zap i went to ski in utah last month .. at alta and snow basin for some practice and it was so icy i couldn't do any turns .. my bro is a double black resort skier and he was able to find some...
author=John_Morrow link=topic=19808.msg85199#msg85199 date=1299684616]
Hello,
I was wondering if you folks could clue me in on Hurricane Ridge overnight parking policy.  In the old days one had to descend a few miles to a pullout below Mt Angeles.  Can we park at the top now?
Thanks,
John


You still have to park down below, but the park rangers were kind enough to give us a ride back to the Obstruction Point road on...
Kath: Outstanding!  The sentiments, the pictures, the aesthetics!  (I looked at all the snow pics on your website).  I wold hope snowshoers such as yourself would post trip reports here given the quality of your pictures and your sense of aesthetics.  After all, snowshoers make turns too ...
thx .. when we got to the ridge and saw this beautiful track i said to the skiers that i didn't even want to head out in snowshoes as our tracks beside them would destroy the scene ..




here as we started up the skyline ridge we traversed well around to the left (instead of the shorter straight up) just so we wouldn't destroy the slope for skiers .. had it been more than just a leisur...
Poptarts!!!

great photos and report.
hey, how'd I miss this?

Very nice victor and jake! Your pictures show how awesome the snow was. Way to score the blue sky.

you should have tomahawked the CNC jake.
Hello,
I was wondering if you folks could clue me in on Hurricane Ridge overnight parking policy.  In the old days one had to descend a few miles to a pullout below Mt Angeles.  Can we park at the top now?
Thanks,
John
author=acarey link=topic=20035.msg85193#msg85193 date=1299679551]
...sound like you have N & S reversed on your moral compass ::)--in my case, who was doing the taking, son?


Understood acarey. My apologies for implying you were doing the taking, not my intention.

Your conversation just reminded me of the Seinfeld scene in that it obliterates what I feel are American social norms, especially for the PNW backcountry....
author=kath link=topic=20035.msg85147#msg85147 date=1299639734]
we were up on mazama and skyline in snowshoes .. and while the only track up to mazama was mutually shared with no complaints .. when we proceeded to the skyline .. yeah we broke our own trail beside the fresh skin tracks .. but on the descent i thought skiers wouldn't even be using the tracks anyhow?? .. no matter .. just saying


Kath, it is great your made your...
author=JibberD link=topic=20035.msg85166#msg85166 date=1299648175">
I missed a good one here!

acarey, sounds like maybe you learned a thing or two from Jerry Seinfeld


Never watched him (til this link); sound like you have N & S reversed on your moral compass ::)--in my case, who was doing the taking, son?
Your pictures look like fun.

We went up there on the 6th.  Air was cold and snow was dry at the lake but it was white out on the slopes above.

Then we saw Dwayne, the red-bearded avi ranger for ONP who had only disparaging words on the snow pack stability.

So rather than risk it (for a day of poor vis above the trees) we baled out. It was a nice hike thru another pretty forest,.
author=jdclimber link=topic=20048.msg85045#msg85045 date=1299569003]
Thanks for the video. It really captured the day and the magic of dropping into a foggy nether world. Really enjoyed spending the day with you. Wish the snow was more pow and less chalky.
It was a huge day for the wife and she certainly achieved far more than she expected . It blows my mind to think of the progress she has made in the last few weeks. In January she broke down at the top...
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let's i'm trailing a buddy with snoeshows on, as do i.  I step between his step and look back at the skin, seeing it is flat , level, and not as icy as i found it.  what do you say there?  not trying to be a smart ass or piss anyone off but sometimes it's too steep and deep to keep footing.
Great photos! Dicey is just hardcore!
Nice all the way around...which artist provided the music for the video?
Hey man, I've done that!  (the beater, that is). 

Hey, who couldn't love
that teetering, freeheeling,
yummy Cascades crud?
author=acarey link=topic=20035.msg84985#msg84985 date=1299547689">
Skinning up the Westside Road today in a track we've put in for the last week, I came across Bronka Sundstrom and friend on skis with a friend on snowshoes.  We stopped to talk.  The snowshoer (a woman in her late 60s) complained that snowshoeing in the skin track was difficult (given the crusty snow on the edges).   I said, "you know you shouldn't be snowshoeing in the skin trac...
author=cumulus link=topic=20003.msg85102#msg85102 date=1299614063]

thanks to Gary too for additional info.  I  read this several times. I get the first part, but do larger convex slopes have a stiffer slab layer than smaller ones? Or is it the other way around? or is stiffness here used in relation to surface area?
thanks,
Stefan



The gist of it is that a thicker overlying slab can have considerable strength s...
author=eze link=topic=20003.msg85022#msg85022 date=1299558464]
The layer on which the slab released was indeed pretty slick.  I think it was a rain crust, probably an inch or two thick that needed hard kicks to put in steps as I hiked up.  Perhaps some faceting occurred above it during the cold snaps?  When it released it did go quick. 



I reread your post again, EZE, and WOW, I'm not only impressed with your good luck,...
we were up on mazama and skyline in snowshoes .. and while the only track up to mazama was mutually shared with no complaints .. when we proceeded to the skyline .. yeah we broke our own trail beside the fresh skin tracks .. but on the descent i thought skiers wouldn't even be using the tracks anyhow?? .. no matter .. just saying
Your video with tune made my day.  MGMT, who are those guys?  Thanks.
I'm glad you guys liked it,  thanks for the positive vibes.
Thanks for sharing a wonderful tour with great photography.
author=Rusty Knees link=topic=20061.msg85119#msg85119 date=1299620628]
I hope you give 'em hell for ruining your tracks, like you did the lady on the West Side Road.  But watch out for the bobcat - yeoww, Cat Fight!


Not only do we not give them hell, we feed 'em!
I can say I've done this fine little tour and it's a very cool area, but as with all TR's, sure would like to see some pics of coverage, tracks, etc.
;D


at least you've had a 'wilderness experience'.


I hope you give 'em hell for ruining your tracks, like you did the lady on the West Side Road.  But watch out for the bobcat - yeoww, Cat Fight!
author=cornRIDE link=topic=20061.msg85109#msg85109 date=1299616280]
"This is a skiing forum: please keep your posts related to skiing;"


the TR section is sacred- please do not spoil it with Hot Air.






uh, sorry; I didn't realize that TAY had progressed to the point that XC skiing is no longer skiing ... ::)
"This is a skiing forum: please keep your posts related to skiing;"


the TR section is sacred- please do not spoil it with Hot Air.



I love your backyard!


I guess it's mine too, only the approach is a little longer...
Slippery Slab is a rock fin not far down the ridge N of Nimbus. It has steep short multipitch rock faces on W and E. IIRC it is dead east of center of Surprise Lake. It's a little hard to pick out in that pano but is obvious either from the lake, or from the usual summer approach to Thunder from Trap Pass along the E of ridge.
Eric so glad you're here to tell the tale because you tell it really well
author=eze link=topic=20003.msg84958#msg84958 date=1299533890]
the trees offer little stability relative to stronger surrounding potential energy

I really feel like I learned something - thanks!

thanks to Gary too for additional info.  I  read this
author=garyabrill link=topic=20003.msg84990#msg84990 da...
author=alpymarr link=topic=20035.msg85097#msg85097 date=1299611860]
Ooops, forgive my not-deep-enough-in-the-BC mistake. My bad, you are better than me and I now bow down to your superiorness..


Tongue in cheek, Alpymarr. simmer down....
author=alpymarr link=topic=20035.msg85097#msg85097 date=1299611860]
Ooops, forgive my not-deep-enough-in-the-BC mistake. My bad, you are better than me and I now bow down to your superiorness..


I like it.
Great video.  Loved the ending as well.  Nice watching talented knee droppers.
Ooops, forgive my not-deep-enough-in-the-BC mistake. My bad, you are better than me and I now bow down to your superiorness..
A hearty 10 mile approach usually takes care of the skin track booters ; )
We all hate snowshoes in the skin track, but whats even worse is booting skiers and boarders in the skin track. Youd think they would know better....I frequently put in skin tracks in the slackcountry because as we all know its easier than wallowing in the snow. Unless Im the first one out there I always put it close to the bootpack origin. Sometimes as Im putting it in I see people busting up it instead of staying in the already established bootpack. Not only are these people ruining my next sk...
author=acarey link=topic=20035.msg84985#msg84985 date=1299547689]
Skinning up the Westside Road today in a track we've put in for the last week, I came across Bronka Sundstrom and friend on skis with a friend on snowshoes.  We stopped to talk.  The snowshoer (a woman in her late 60s) complained that snowshoeing in the skin track was difficult (given the crusty snow on the edges).   I said, "you know you shouldn't be snowshoeing in the skin track...