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Of course I did patrol on the N District Tuesday, in the rain, to Copper Creek Hut (4500 ft asl).
South District
Of course I did patrol on the N District Tuesday, in the rain, to Copper Creek Hut (4500 ft asl).
Typically, over the last couple years, I've just stayed out of Newton Creek until corn season due to the number of people making multiple skin tracks and randomly climbing and skiing.
author=alecapone link=topic=20353.msg86623#msg86623 date=1301587061]
Too bad Alta doesn't allow snowboarders.. :'(
LOL
sweet .. i've been looking for this tr but "black hole" .. went right over my head ... anyhow i watched you guys from time to time on kyles "spot" tracker .. when he said he was headed to bandit i googled and found phils old tr on tgr and thought wow those guys are going to have a blast! .. glad you all made it ... and had fun ..
great video footage nick .. it looks like hd ... is it?
great video footage nick .. it looks like hd ... is it?
The one across the lake was bigger but the little alien couloir more aesthetic.
Short and sweet and the top narrow and steep.
Seems it'd be a nice accent to any Chair Peak circumnav tour.
your job is better than my vacation! Where do I apply?!
hey steve
i could not find the product tester employment application on the bca website ;-)
i could not find the product tester employment application on the bca website ;-)
COngrats on becoming men guys.!!
Everybody hits it, but she's still purty.
Best to show up right after she dou.. ah heck, never mind.
I'm still a virgin, what do I know.
Everybody hits it, but she's still purty.
Best to show up right after she dou.. ah heck, never mind.
I'm still a virgin, what do I know.
SICK!
Too bad Alta doesn't allow snowboarders.. :'(
Too bad Alta doesn't allow snowboarders.. :'(
Awesome fellas!!
Where you up there trying to get a rad photo of Dash hitting something in the picketts?
Maybe Spencer missed the memo, but every split boarder on the west coast was up at Baker this weekend. Or maybe he got the memo?
Where you up there trying to get a rad photo of Dash hitting something in the picketts?
Maybe Spencer missed the memo, but every split boarder on the west coast was up at Baker this weekend. Or maybe he got the memo?
A few more shots near the summit for future reference...while waiting for the weather to dry out.
author=skykilo link=topic=20365.msg86603#msg86603 date=1301540512]
Now I live on a mountain.
Near Los Alamos, then?
author=skykilo link=topic=20365.msg86603#msg86603 date=1301540512]
New Mexico is the Land of Enchantment. You won't be hearing any complaints from me. Outdoor recreation opportunities abound and it's not a struggle to squeeze sunny days into a hectic schedule or escape the city. Now I live on a mountain.
And NM rocks Marcus, yes. Climb on!
I agree! I'm a huge fan of Taco Cabana, Garduno...
author=Koda link=topic=20369.msg86608#msg86608 date=1301545752]
the problem is that diagonal track is the quickest route back up. In the first bowl, there really isn't a "good" place to put a skin track except on the edge of the timberline in the trees. I did that once and it took twice as long and many more switchbacks to get back up so on my third lap I picked the diagonal track, was an improvement in efficiency but at risk of being in the fal...
Good to hear Sky. I grew up there and it was an awesome place to be a kid. Sounds like it would still fit the bill...
the problem is that diagonal track is the quickest route back up. In the first bowl, there really isn't a "good" place to put a skin track except on the edge of the timberline in the trees. I did that once and it took twice as long and many more switchbacks to get back up so on my third lap I picked the diagonal track, was an improvement in efficiency but at risk of being in the fall line. What would others do? at least we spread ourselves out...
New Mexico is the Land of Enchantment. You won't be hearing any complaints from me. Outdoor recreation opportunities abound and it's not a struggle to squeeze sunny days into a hectic schedule or escape the city. Now I live on a mountain.
And NM rocks Marcus, yes. Climb on!
And NM rocks Marcus, yes. Climb on!
author=Koda link=topic=20369.msg86598#msg86598 date=1301531188]
Every time I ski Newton someone sets a diagonal skin track right up the middle of the ski run. I cringe at the thought of how many people would be exposed if Newton ever slid big.
This has pretty much been my experience too. I'm not really sure where the best place to put it is. I've gone up the ridge just north of the first bowl, but it gets pretty steep n...
Every time I ski Newton someone sets a diagonal skin track right up the middle of the ski run. I cringe at the thought of how many people would be exposed if Newton ever slid big.
Hey, I can drift now, too, Ed.
Joe - glad you're back on the horse!
Fun video Silas.
Joe - glad you're back on the horse!
Fun video Silas.
author=Koda link=topic=20369.msg86571#msg86571 date=1301501897]
Nice turns. The photos look like you had the place to yourself, unusual for a weekend. Was it a busy day in there or are you an early bird?
There were 10, maybe 14 people tops by the end of the day. I was there from 8:30 to 3:30 and bagged 5k vert without crossing another's tracks. There were some VERY large cornices starting at tree line extending m...
Andrew,
To a large extent, the air temp in Seattle (and generally on land immediately downwind of a large expanse of ocean) is set by the ocean surface temps plus whatever radiative heating occurs. This results in the generally mild maritime climate we have (mild winters, mild summers), as the ocean has a lot of thermal inertia and doesn't exhibit large temperature swings with the seasons. Above the boundary layer (first few thousand feet of atmosphere that "feels" the...
To a large extent, the air temp in Seattle (and generally on land immediately downwind of a large expanse of ocean) is set by the ocean surface temps plus whatever radiative heating occurs. This results in the generally mild maritime climate we have (mild winters, mild summers), as the ocean has a lot of thermal inertia and doesn't exhibit large temperature swings with the seasons. Above the boundary layer (first few thousand feet of atmosphere that "feels" the...
author=kneel turner link=topic=20378.msg86584#msg86584 date=1301510217]
Nice freeze frame at the end of Joe's cameo. Good times...
Good times for sure.
My tree well camouflage comes across nicely on the video.
Nice freeze frame at the end of Joe's cameo. Good times...
Very cool example of the phenomena you describe and outside of the norm in the cascades, in which the lee slopes get less precip, but because of cold air pooling and the continental influence, the snow levels are typically lower in mid winter as well. In contrast an isolated summit like st helens gets less precip AND higher SL on the lee.
So does the distinction between the dry adabatic lapse rate and wet adabatic lapse rate explain why we can have snow levels of 3k but it be 55...
So does the distinction between the dry adabatic lapse rate and wet adabatic lapse rate explain why we can have snow levels of 3k but it be 55...
author=Amar Andalkar link=topic=20371.msg86542#msg86542 date=1301457268]
Because of its position well west of the crest and totally isolated from other mountains, Mt St Helens provides a textbook demonstration of many basic meteorological concepts. In this case, adiabatic heating and rain shadowing. As moist air during a storm with southerly winds is forced up the south side of the volcano, it becomes saturated (dew point = temperature, humidity = 100%) and co...
That sure is a long slog... way to get after it. Looks like an incredible line.
Nice turns. The photos look like you had the place to yourself, unusual for a weekend. Was it a busy day in there or are you an early bird?
New Mexico rocks... maybe not for 505er though.
Great report Ryan, glad you're getting some time to heal.
Great report Ryan, glad you're getting some time to heal.
Beautiful line and report. Thanks Ryan.
505= New mexico area code? so sad....
505= New mexico area code? so sad....
Well documented TR Ryan A++
Sure like Sky's snow melting, Euro trash outfits! :)
Sure like Sky's snow melting, Euro trash outfits! :)
Excellent report as usual, Ryan. Looks sweet. Good to see that Skier 505 is just as peacocky as ever. I dig those hot pink sunglasses.
author=jwplotz link=topic=20365.msg86552#msg86552 date=1301462510]
How are those Plum bindings?
I didn't ski them, but skier 505 sure likes them. They look and feel awesome. solid and light. If I had the cash and/or hook up I'd grab a pair in a second.
Hope you're feeling better John. And thanks everybody for the kind words...
Amar, being a weather nerd myself you gave me exactly what I wanted. any books on the subject you could recommend? The difference between sites on the mountain with similar elevations is amazing!
So, what line did you guys ski? I couldn't quite ascertain from the photos ::)
Another great TR and photos. How are those Plum bindings?
Another great TR and photos. How are those Plum bindings?
I love Amar - 48 rows of data, three subgroups, 6 columns in each subgroup:
Amar...
So, the obvious question is why is there such an extreme difference between the north and south sides of Mt St Helens? Why are the temps slightly colder on the south, and the precip and snowfall MUCH greater??
My question obviously, is why is the question so obvious? I know, I know..."If you ha...
author=savegondor link=topic=20371.msg86510#msg86510 date=1301437009]
I have to say too that telemetry on Helens is problematic as conditions vary wildly from the West to South side. Surprising was the amount of snow at Marble Mountain snopark at 2700 feet. chalk up 6-9 feet with a full foot of fresh. snow levels were below 2000 feet despite forecasts at 3500 feet and telemetry showing early temps approaching 40 degrees.
the snow was predictably he...
After having way to many bad trips on Mt St Helens, my rule of thumb is 2-3 clear days after a storm. IMHO, corn is the best way to enjoy the mountain.
And I believe they pretty much stop plowing sometime in March.
And I believe they pretty much stop plowing sometime in March.
What do you expect at double last years' rate?
http://blog.oregonlive.com/terryrichard/2011/03/winter_recreation_road_plowing.html
Do your snopark fees support a plan that keeps the park accessible, or a plan of plowing 'X' times/season?
Ask your legislator
http://blog.oregonlive.com/terryrichard/2011/03/winter_recreation_road_plowing.html
Do your snopark fees support a plan that keeps the park accessible, or a plan of plowing 'X' times/season?
Ask your legislator
author=savegondor link=topic=20371.msg86510#msg86510 date=1301437009]
oh and btw....there was a ton of snow on the road, unplowed from 1500 feet up. Marble Mountain hadn't been plowed in several days of heavy snow.
I was there last Thursday and found the same poor road and parking lot conditions. Three low clearance cars were crammed in a small patch of plowed parking lot. The rest of the lot would have been too risky to...
having been up there for the first time last summer on a day hike .. and now looking at that pic .. all i can say is holy crap batman ..