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author=WhiteyWhite link=topic=37609.msg152443#msg152443 date=1484619900]
Sweet! What was the name of the sushi place? I'll be in Otaru in 1 week, and looking for any beta!
The last picture is of the sushi bar's business card. Maybe Google translate can help decipher it into some thing useful for anglophones
author=telemack link=topic=37614.msg152445#msg152445 date=1484624479]
Nice pix, and it's good to hear conditions are normalizing.
Two knee droppers = Traders of the Lost Art! :)
All four of us, telemack, thanks!
Weather Forecasts and Telemetry:
Extraordinary unusual deep-powder snow conditions on the Muir Snowfield should require extraordinary unusual weather conditions, right? But my normal viewing of the NWS Rainier forecasts and the NWAC telemetry throughout the 3-day snowfall period during the early part of the week showed nothing extraordinary or unusual at all, nothing that gave me a clue that snow conditions at high elevations like Muir would be so astounding and deep.
Extraordinary unusual deep-powder snow conditions on the Muir Snowfield should require extraordinary unusual weather conditions, right? But my normal viewing of the NWS Rainier forecasts and the NWAC telemetry throughout the 3-day snowfall period during the early part of the week showed nothing extraordinary or unusual at all, nothing that gave me a clue that snow conditions at high elevations like Muir would be so astounding and deep.
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Then a fast cruise on nice powder again for most of the remaining stretch to Paradise, as the flatter terrain here is too flat to get much solar radiation from the low sun this time of year, and only the steeper rolls and features had any crust.
Same view of Rainier as the morning, but in the twilight at 5:30pm.
As I c...
Then a fast cruise on nice powder again for most of the remaining stretch to Paradise, as the flatter terrain here is too flat to get much solar radiation from the low sun this time of year, and only the steeper rolls and features had any crust.
Same view of Rainier as the morning, but in the twilight at 5:30pm.
As I c...
Nice pix, and it's good to hear conditions are normalizing.
Knee droppers sharing laps and photos = Traders of the Lost Art! :)
Knee droppers sharing laps and photos = Traders of the Lost Art! :)
Sweet! What was the name of the sushi place? I'll be in Otaru in 1 week, and looking for any beta!
Inversion was quite something today (1/16). 10 degrees F at the parking lot, close to 40 at 5000ft. Still some nice snow to be found in shaded trees.
Leavenworth is the best ...Go get some before its gone !!! X
Two Brits skiing in Lundin. So appropriate.
Nice photos Jake!
Nice photos Jake!
author=Pete_H link=topic=37613.msg152414#msg152414 date=1484539811]
How were conditions on that aspect of cashmere? Wind effected at all?
No wind effect but still rocky. Thanks if that was your skin track up to the crest.
John, good to hear you are off the couch! Ran into one your partners in crime the other day, hope the turns were good.
Hey John, good to know you're out there.
I have not seen that perspective on the Enchantments before. It's a good view on Colchuck & neighbors.
I have not seen that perspective on the Enchantments before. It's a good view on Colchuck & neighbors.
How were conditions on that aspect of cashmere? Wind effected at all?
Love the 2nd pic. Saw on the WSDoT website that all the passes were sunny while we languished under gloomy, overcast skies in Ellensburg. Nice skiing at the golf course, teaching a lesson.
It's amazing how some people can manage to end up pissed off instead of joyful on a sunny day with powder snow.
Hey I also summited Rocky Butte this week! Then they ruined it with the gravel. There could be some decent tree skiing up there with another three feet of base.
author=discostew link=topic=37563.msg152290#msg152290 date=1484254035]
if i'm following in someone's track and i get a chance to speak to him/her, i will always say thanks and offer to take over, and the trailbreaker always gets to drop in first. if, however, anyone tells me where/where not to ride, and how to make turns, i will arc a few 100m long 100m wide trenches and do my best to make sure that he/she crosses them, cause f@#k those people
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Yes, completely agree with Onward, and agree that anyone who raises a voice or tone in the BC is violating the biggest rule of all: don't be a dick. I wish the original poster hadn't had this experience, and thank him for keeping it cool when he rightfully could have started a dust up.
Lower elevation trees 1/13 (skier compacted)
W and N facing treed terrain was great Thursday below 5000' there until getting low enough to hit a surface melt/freeze crust that was borderline merciless. Above was BTS.
Yes, Onward has nailed it. We all agree. Be nice. Have fun. Be considerate.
author=wingy link=topic=37563.msg152342#msg152342 date=1484341628]
i'm with Scotsman. my first year i the backcountry was 1993 on teton pass (50 days), and his rules and reaoning were generally the same i picked up that winter from my elders, and will certainly teach my children.
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i like the idea of older BC folk teaching the younger. it's a great tradition for back country travelers of all sorts
Thanks Zap - us working stiffs are with you in spirit - working on not-working soon. Cheers.
i'm with Scotsman. my first year i the backcountry was 1993 on teton pass (50 days), and his rules and reaoning were generally the same i picked up that winter from my elders, and will certainly teach my children.
beyond his stated reasoning, crossing skin-track has much bigger consequences as things get deeper (injuries to skiers crossing skin-tracks); micro-terrains block visibility and people lemming down such that many passes destroy the skin track (and/or cause someone to c...
beyond his stated reasoning, crossing skin-track has much bigger consequences as things get deeper (injuries to skiers crossing skin-tracks); micro-terrains block visibility and people lemming down such that many passes destroy the skin track (and/or cause someone to c...
Good season to be retired! (Is there a bad season for that? 8))
I was out at Lake Ann Saturday 1/7, and was kind of disappointed. Snow in the trees was good but anything open was highly variable (as in changing within in feet) from thinner/soft wind transport to full on crust (from the sun I assume). A wide spread thin breakable crust was most common. Overall a fun day out, but thought the slope following the summer trail drainage would have been more protected.
I was out Wednesday night under the moon and found conditions thoroughly confusing and generally bad.
Winds had clearly been out of the NE (side note the NWAC weather vane on Pan Dome does not seem at all credible). The ridgetops had been hammered and the upper half of blueberry chutes were affected. But the lower half of Bagely Basin had been protected and offered good snow. South facing slopes on Herman were developing a sun crust.
The unusual p...
Winds had clearly been out of the NE (side note the NWAC weather vane on Pan Dome does not seem at all credible). The ridgetops had been hammered and the upper half of blueberry chutes were affected. But the lower half of Bagely Basin had been protected and offered good snow. South facing slopes on Herman were developing a sun crust.
The unusual p...
Oops - No lifts on the Blewitt...
author=Eckels link=topic=37563.msg152302#msg152302 date=1484272972]
Hahahaha sounds like you ran into Woods! Old guy with a big beard on a splitboard?
He was on a splitboard lol, wasn't close enough to see the other details.
This is funny! Part of what attracts me to the back or side country, is that there are no "rules." Courtesy, yes; breaker gets firsts. I used to live and ski the Wasatch. It makes me sick to think I'd have to shadow someone's tight little turns! Sure I like to look up at my tracks, but if someone wants to ride over them, at least they are leaving more untracked nearby for me. Untracked is what I really like and if I ain't gettin' it, it's my fault for going to...
Hahahaha sounds like you ran into Woods! Old guy with a big beard on a splitboard?
nice! it's an incredible place that for some reason seems to be less popular than other commercial huts in BC. everyone should go!
My backpack sensor read 5 F both when we arrived at and left the Alpy lot. It was warmer above, with a small inversion. NWAC telemetry showed a low of 3F!
I didn't think you were in the dawn business these days!
I didn't think you were in the dawn business these days!
Sleeping in lot 3 last night was so chilly we got a much later start after using the Tercel battery to power the Winnie's heater and bottles of water in my "cooler" for breakfast when the RV water pipe was frozen. Sunrise was indeed beautiful. We found 10-12" soft consistent old snow on a firm crust 4600-3000' on SW slopes.
author=discostew link=topic=37563.msg152290#msg152290 date=1484254035]
if i'm following in someone's track and i get a chance to speak to him/her, i will always say thanks and offer to take over, and the trailbreaker always gets to drop in first. if, however, anyone tells me where/where not to ride, and how to make turns, i will arc a few 100m long 100m wide trenches and do my best to make sure that he/she crosses them, cause f@#k those people
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if i'm following in someone's track and i get a chance to speak to him/her, i will always say thanks and offer to take over, and the trailbreaker always gets to drop in first. if, however, anyone tells me where/where not to ride, and how to make turns, i will arc a few 100m long 100m wide trenches and do my best to make sure that he/she crosses them, cause f@#k those people
Great morning out... I had not been out to sample the light fluffy stuff recently... this was way better than sleeping. Full moon was out in force - gorgeous orange moon set through purple sky. My 70mm lens on a 35mm sensor was no match.
author=haggis link=topic=37579.msg152285#msg152285 date=1484248057]
Awesome to hear its still holding up, headed out tonight for full moon tour.
Saw some people skinning up towards the Chair peak divide as we skied out after dark. The snow was phenomenal on the slope above Source Lake. Headlamp skiing is fun in perfect pow!
Awesome to hear its still holding up, headed out tonight for full moon tour.
That sunrise over Alpy photo, wow
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Constructive conversation is always a good thing, but the topic in of itself must have value in the first place. For me, any discussion of the appropriateness of one's turns holds little positive benefit to the community. I just can't wrap my head around the idea of there being an "appropriate" way to lay down tracks in the backcountry, but I don't think of powder as a commodity or resource that is to be preserved as long as possible for the other users around me. Ma...
IMHO skiing is one of the most extreme privileges that exist on the planet. Backcountry skiing is even further up the list. I keep that in mind when I'm out there, and when I read threads like these.
Whether we like it our not, we're a community. We share resources that no individual owns (terrain, water, air). The number of people vying for those resources is on the rise. Change is tough. People are sensitive. If we want to have shared values, we should keep talking about w...
Whether we like it our not, we're a community. We share resources that no individual owns (terrain, water, air). The number of people vying for those resources is on the rise. Change is tough. People are sensitive. If we want to have shared values, we should keep talking about w...
Sounds like a righteous Christmas experience, thanks for posting
Snowshoeing in the skin track, ignorance vs. high risk tolerance, sharing secret stashes on TAY...but this surpasses them all for inanity. Holy Hell! Manners and respect are generally good for social interaction and good will. I typically support them, but to try and dictate how someone lays down tracks in the backcountry is straight up absurd. We are past the point of no return. If you go to places like Bagley Lakes on a blue bird day with fresh snow, you better be...
author=slacker link=topic=37563.msg152266#msg152266 date=1484199651]
I too did 3 laps on Herman on Tuesday. I put the skin track in at 730 am. Lots of riders followed. No one thanked me. I don't care but I appreciate manners. . 95% or more of the people I meet in the backcountry are happy, friendly, and respectful.
I have asked around about his nibs and have been assured that he is the owner of mt Herman. Man that's great! How do I get to ow...
author=Scotsman link=topic=37563.msg152212#msg152212 date=1484110709]
I of course have broken all the rules above .
I too did 3 laps on Herman on Tuesday. I put the skin track in at 730 am. Lots of riders followed. No one thanked me. I don't care but I appreciate manners. . 95% or more of the people I meet in the backcountry are happy, friendly, and respectful.
I have asked around about his nibs and have been assured th...