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Charles is back.
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Didn't seem like we were having that much fun with this one anyhoo. sag was the only guesser and he got the info. My work here is done ;)
Getting together a ski for Sunday (hoping the forecast improves). Let us know if you'd like to join us and have some company for your Sept. turns. Details via return email. Apre' tailgate party weather permitting 8).
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Didn't seem like we were having that much fun with this one anyhoo. sag was the only guesser and he got the info. My work here is done ;)
Getting together a ski for Sunday (hoping the forecast improves). Let us know if you'd like to join us and have some company for your Sept. turns. Details via return email. Apre' tailgate party weather permitting 8).
Good point, sag.
It's about time I came forth with the goods, huh?
I'll get the info off to you in the next day or so. I think you'll like it for a fun "secret stash".
Greg - I've accessed the PG 3 different ways. We're proly going up to there this weekend as well. I'll include you on a group email... maybe we'll post it on "planned trips" as well; maybe we can turn it into kind of a "community event" :D.
It's about time I came forth with the goods, huh?
I'll get the info off to you in the next day or so. I think you'll like it for a fun "secret stash".
Greg - I've accessed the PG 3 different ways. We're proly going up to there this weekend as well. I'll include you on a group email... maybe we'll post it on "planned trips" as well; maybe we can turn it into kind of a "community event" :D.
so what is the "official mandatory suggested stashworthiness protocol" and my addy is stefan.giles@ comcast.net
I'll take Sky's recommendation and do it as a winter tour during a high pressure window.
BTW, a photo, which will possibly show our tracks (depending on the resolution) will be posted by Sky later this week when I burn him a CD.
BTW, a photo, which will possibly show our tracks (depending on the resolution) will be posted by Sky later this week when I burn him a CD.
Heck, we've got to get on the Park again this year! If we get up a bit earlier, with the knowledge of this past trip, maybe we can make it to the summit, or at least to the headwall schrund. There's so much corn to be harvested! ;D
David Thanks,
Actually the descent that I was suggesting would start at the point that is ~6900ft., which essentially forms the southwest wall of the Portals (the saddle marked on the USGS maps that is one notch over from the camping areas), and from that point to descend to possibly as far down as just below the toe of the Rainbow. On my map, this would approach 3,000 vertical ft. on terrain that looks on the map to have nice rolls and contour lines that are maybe not radical, but...
Actually the descent that I was suggesting would start at the point that is ~6900ft., which essentially forms the southwest wall of the Portals (the saddle marked on the USGS maps that is one notch over from the camping areas), and from that point to descend to possibly as far down as just below the toe of the Rainbow. On my map, this would approach 3,000 vertical ft. on terrain that looks on the map to have nice rolls and contour lines that are maybe not radical, but...
Hey Mark - Yes, viewing the lower portions of the Park from a distance it looks feasible, but once up there it didn't appear that heading left was an option so we went up. In fact, there was no guarantee of a connection at all, although around 8,500'+/- it may have went left.
The slope you likely saw multiple tracks on was too fun to turn down, while at the same time I think the majority of our group didn't want to press our luck on this trip.
The slope you likely saw multiple tracks on was too fun to turn down, while at the same time I think the majority of our group didn't want to press our luck on this trip.
An impressive collection of tracks on the Park Glacier, I must say. So the line you didn't try involved traversing far to climber's left to access the upper glacier? It looks like the most likely route, but I think you did pretty well for so late in the season.
I satisfied myself with another brief bit of skiing today before my companion needed to head back to town. Ptarmigan Ridge still has excellent scenery, multiple short lines and snow that is in places very good—all...
I satisfied myself with another brief bit of skiing today before my companion needed to head back to town. Ptarmigan Ridge still has excellent scenery, multiple short lines and snow that is in places very good—all...
Alan - sounds like you know the area. Our camp was at the very end of the trail. Yes, we headed straight for the gap between the Portals (the true Sholes was climber's right). We at first debated climbing that and accessing the Park where the Sholes, Park and Mazama glaciers merge (our thinking was that the Rainbow may be too crevassed to navigate combined with the potential loss in elevation). However, traversing the south facing slope between the gap (which I believe yo...
David,
One question that I posted to Random Tracks but haven't gotten an answer to: Do you approach the Portals by gaining the Sholes glacier early on and then staying on the NW side of the ridge? Did you stay high and descend the steep area just below the NE point of the Portals or did you pass that gaping crack on the Sholes by passing below it? Did this question make any sense to you?
Actually, when I hiked to the point that is above the Portals, I noted what a...
One question that I posted to Random Tracks but haven't gotten an answer to: Do you approach the Portals by gaining the Sholes glacier early on and then staying on the NW side of the ridge? Did you stay high and descend the steep area just below the NE point of the Portals or did you pass that gaping crack on the Sholes by passing below it? Did this question make any sense to you?
Actually, when I hiked to the point that is above the Portals, I noted what a...
No way I sold my soul. I'm saving it to sell by the end of September, in exchange for seven months of epic powder, followed by a beautiful spring and summer. I'm doing this for everyone... resort skiers, ski mountaineers, yo-yo skiers, telemarkers, and even snowboarders. Cheers!
Hey Paul - Sky was scoping the topo, looks like my altimeter could have been off as we likely topped out slightly over 9,000'.
Now, now Paul...this isn't CC Climbers.com so there's no need to point fingers at bc skiers. We're all in search of that dream ski to one degree or another ;)
Thanks for deleting the repeat post.
Thanks for deleting the repeat post.
Oh, yeah, Dave, you can remove your previous post by clicking the 'remove' button.
Arrgh, Dave, you beat me to it. The climb was really fun, with great scenery, seracs, and crevasses. It was really too bad that we were cut off, as we were SO close to the upper snowfield that would have made for more great skiing. But, so is life. Sky even sold his soul and turned into a backcountry skier, skiing laps on the snowfield below the seracs. He's turned into a yo-yo skier! Poor summits....:-(
Beware the tourons, next time I'm taking a sign saying "These are NOT ski...
Beware the tourons, next time I'm taking a sign saying "These are NOT ski...
Hey Charles, accidentally hit the back key and posted this trip twice. Sorry for the inconvenience, if any, it's been a looong day.
Ron: Question unrelated to this "Name That Bowl". When you go into the Paradise Gl. area, how do you access? I'm still planning to go in next w'end, provided there's a reason to.
Thanks...Greg Lange
PS: It's great to be back from Arkansas. The mountains there are all of 600' tall!
Thanks...Greg Lange
PS: It's great to be back from Arkansas. The mountains there are all of 600' tall!
I know the one you mean, sag. Yeah there is some similarities. I don't know the name of it either but it's the bowl that what we call Pinnacle Chute, Denman Chute and Plummer Chute dump into.
Here's the best shot I could find of what you are talking about:
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The bowl that you're thinking of is just out of sight on the other side of and below the tree line in this pic.
Here's a shot of a couple of the gang booting up the center chute...
Here's the best shot I could find of what you are talking about:
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The bowl that you're thinking of is just out of sight on the other side of and below the tree line in this pic.
Here's a shot of a couple of the gang booting up the center chute...
To me this looks alot like the bowl just west of pinnacle peak in the tattoosh range.I'm not able to come up w/ a name for this bowl, there is nothing on the maps i have.
Sorry Laurie, I'll remember for next time. And another TAY session would be a good idea as has been suggested! A September tail gate party after some sun cupped, runneled, I can't wait for new snow,and how long was that hike, ski trip would be a good thing!
Paul
Paul
Thanks Ron, I owe it all to drooling over every possible ski route I see during the summer. I hope to put your hard earned, valued info to good use. Mark's suggestion was my 3rd choice (between St Elmos and Burroughs) if the others failed. Good job Mark! Although the gate to White River closes on first snow which does not make this easy.
In fact Governors Ridge is easy to get to when there is more snow on the ground (spring) . Just park and ski/hike West of the 410 and 123 junction. Just SE...
In fact Governors Ridge is easy to get to when there is more snow on the ground (spring) . Just park and ski/hike West of the 410 and 123 junction. Just SE...
She told me her name was Laurie !
We had good time yall.
We had good time yall.
Ok, the next one is really cool, it's so remote that the goats love this spot, and the marmots are shouting warning signals to each other as soon as you round the bend. Think about skiing and swimming in the same day, within a few yards of each other. Didn't see any fish jumping so I don't think you'll need the fly rod. 8)
OTOH, Mark, good guess and good info for us all on the Table Mt. beta.
Looks like you also snuck in under the wire for the beta on this one. I'll include you on the email distribution.
Looks like you also snuck in under the wire for the beta on this one. I'll include you on the email distribution.
Woo Hoo!! Give that man a cigar!
(Sorry, Mark, I mean Joedabaker)
Your first guess got it. In fact I don't know of any routes up the north side of Govenor's ridge that aren't just a straight bushwhack. Do you know of any trail up the north side?
So if you care to shoot me an email I'll send you and snoslut the maps and the other beta I've accumulated for the "new stash", the suggested best way to access it, and the "official mandatory suggested stashworthiness protocol&...
(Sorry, Mark, I mean Joedabaker)
Your first guess got it. In fact I don't know of any routes up the north side of Govenor's ridge that aren't just a straight bushwhack. Do you know of any trail up the north side?
So if you care to shoot me an email I'll send you and snoslut the maps and the other beta I've accumulated for the "new stash", the suggested best way to access it, and the "official mandatory suggested stashworthiness protocol&...
Well Ron, that sure does look like almost everywhere steep and north-facing between 4500 and 7500 feet, on or around any of the volcanoes. Last time I saw an almost identical scene, it was a week ago on the snowfields below the Inner Glacier on Table Mountain....but that's a bit far afield for you, isn't it? On the other hand, there's good skiing nearbye, a mere hour and a half from the car (or, in your case, from the tailgate).
I agree, we should try to make the next get together more worker and "nondrinker" friendly. Them tailgate parties work out pretty good. Maybe we should shoot for one of those for September...
And High Five, alpentalcorey; October turns on a Mexican Volcano sounds cool. Can't wait to see the TR.
And High Five, alpentalcorey; October turns on a Mexican Volcano sounds cool. Can't wait to see the TR.
And what's all this talk about there being no skiing? Heck, we've got plenty glaciers to keep everyone happy!
How about on a saturday, on snow! I still can't get into bars yet. Just a few years to go. >:(
OK Ron-From the looks of the picture. By looking closely at the picture it apears to be volcanic rock. I assume the exposure is North Facing and about 1000+/- vert. and easily accessible in the early season. How about Unicorn Glacier (not as easily accessible) or The north face of Governors Ridge (easier)?
I think as soon as someone guesses it, I'll share some cool beta for making this area into a great ski tour (including gps track maps from recon hikes into the area) with everyone that has ventured a guess (to be provided via email).
This location is going to make for a really great day ski tour destination a little earlier in the season.
Who's next?
ron j has some great maps and way points of this future ski tour, now's a chance t...
Would it be possible to do a TAY get-together sometime on a Saturday? I would love to meet you all sometime, but I work Friday nights.
It's cool that a site like this can help build community.
P.S. I'm hatching a plan as we speak to get my October turns.... In Mexico!
It's cool that a site like this can help build community.
P.S. I'm hatching a plan as we speak to get my October turns.... In Mexico!
I know, I know; just dummy up, ok?
Let some of the other kids have a turn.
Let some of the other kids have a turn.
;D Even if I have to sit in the corner, I still know.
Stoppit, MadDog, you're ineligible.
Get back in your neutral corner.
Get back in your neutral corner.
Ron you did not specify how many guesses per person so here's another one. I am going to say somewhere off the Paradise/Cowlitz glacier or whats left of it. I would not be suprised if it was somewhere else like the Flett/Russell though.
Yeah, snoslut, it DOES look a bit like the Nisqually chute, doesn't it!
Sorry, though, no cigar.
Thanks for guessing, though.
I see you've allowed access to an email addy...
I think as soon as someone guesses it, I'll share some cool beta for making this area into a great ski tour (including gps track maps from recon hikes into the area) with everyone that has ventured a guess (to be provided via email).
This location is going to make for a really great day ski tour destination...
Sorry, though, no cigar.
Thanks for guessing, though.
I see you've allowed access to an email addy...
I think as soon as someone guesses it, I'll share some cool beta for making this area into a great ski tour (including gps track maps from recon hikes into the area) with everyone that has ventured a guess (to be provided via email).
This location is going to make for a really great day ski tour destination...
Hey Ron it looks like the base of Nisqually chute?
Immediate family and ski partners that know where I hiked that day are not eligible for the competition ;D
It was a great time, with good company, food and beverage. ;D Might have to do it again in Sept to satisfy our ski withdrawals. Next time I'll get one of those waterproof camera's. ;)
It was Laurie, Paul.
Good thing it wasn't Robie that forgot that... we'd ALL be in trouble ???
Good folks, good brew, good times, good grins.
Next time we won't let MadDog be cameraman, er, ah, I mean camera-Person ;)
Maybe then we'll get some postable pictures!
Good thing it wasn't Robie that forgot that... we'd ALL be in trouble ???
Good folks, good brew, good times, good grins.
Next time we won't let MadDog be cameraman, er, ah, I mean camera-Person ;)
Maybe then we'll get some postable pictures!
yeah, it should be quite warm...upper 70's to low 80's in the lowlands, so I suspect it'll be a cooker up there too. Ohh yeah, the headwall is definitely steep, and sustained until you reach the 'shrund...most claims are between 45 to low-to-mid 50 degrees (in fact, there is a segment in Beckey which claims over 60 degrees). If it's good snow conditions, should be no problem. The goal is to ski the main headwall, so crossing over by the rock band (below the summit) is the best...
Good meet you as well Paul, that was fun. 8) Jerry
Maybe right in the middle, too. Looks like a real tool might come in handy. Let's hope it's warm and corn!
Edit: I just looked at the photo on cc.com. Holy Sh1t that thing looks steep! But I'll bet it only foreshortened. As for the schrund, looks like either far right or far left will work. It's lookin kinda big.
Edit: I just looked at the photo on cc.com. Holy Sh1t that thing looks steep! But I'll bet it only foreshortened. As for the schrund, looks like either far right or far left will work. It's lookin kinda big.
Hey Paul...yes, I got Charles' e-mail and sent him a thanks. Also, see the picture on cascadeclimbers.com in my thread (towards the bottom)...
hopefully the upper 'shrund is passable at far climber's left (very near where it meets the rock)...looks like one could squeeeeeeeze through there ya think??
hopefully the upper 'shrund is passable at far climber's left (very near where it meets the rock)...looks like one could squeeeeeeeze through there ya think??
Ooooohhhh, the Park Headwall looks cool. Schrund might be a problem. Seems like the glacier doesn't have too many open crevasses, though. Lookin forward to the weekend....... :) :) :) :) 8)
David - check your email (the one you used to register here).