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Jim - Thank you, I have been searching a long time for the expression "squared off" to describe the phenomenon you found at the Pass yesterday. Funny, I feel more and more like an eskimo everyday.
Anyway, as you can see from the photo take...
Yeah - you must have had an oven effect. The only times I wasn't cold (or heavily clothed) was when skinning up at a fast clip and the quick lunch break in the calm sunny hole in the forest where I still put on a thick layer, a shell, and a warm hat.
It's been a while since I've carefully inspected my weird-feeling fingertips to be sure they weren't getting waxy, and getting into that state took just a few seconds of gear-fiddling with thin gloves on to achieve...
It's been a while since I've carefully inspected my weird-feeling fingertips to be sure they weren't getting waxy, and getting into that state took just a few seconds of gear-fiddling with thin gloves on to achieve...
I think we must have been baking in a little oven where we were. Aspect was SW. (original destination was the north slope of Chair, but we couldn't pass up this slope as we passed by - and then we decided with snow like this, it's better to yoyo than to break trail for a few hours). Our lunch break, during which the powder->glop transformation happened, was very warm: I was comfortable with my hat off and only polypro + thin shell. The only time I was cold was zipping back t...
One more cold weather detail:
Don't touch anything metal when the temperature is below 10 degrees F!
How did markharf get frozen snot yesterday, my nose hairs (and nose) froze before any liquid could show up?
Too bad there was only 8.5 hrs of daylight, but then again my body could not take much more, tho the endorphins yesterday made skinning up a lot easier than the average Pac NW tour.
Though I could only imagine how fine the skiing near Stevens and Crystal must have be...
Don't touch anything metal when the temperature is below 10 degrees F!
How did markharf get frozen snot yesterday, my nose hairs (and nose) froze before any liquid could show up?
Too bad there was only 8.5 hrs of daylight, but then again my body could not take much more, tho the endorphins yesterday made skinning up a lot easier than the average Pac NW tour.
Though I could only imagine how fine the skiing near Stevens and Crystal must have be...
didja ever notice how old people never quite make it to the front of the line to break trail?
The thanks go to Darryl, Ingrid, Stefan and Jerry for breaking trail through two ft of ootah pow (uphill, both ways!) to get us there. Nice job, gang. Great group.
The thanks go to Darryl, Ingrid, Stefan and Jerry for breaking trail through two ft of ootah pow (uphill, both ways!) to get us there. Nice job, gang. Great group.
Mark: I was drooling at those on the skin track yesterday; must have been including yourself. I was escorting my company's (Ski-Attle) first-ever bus of teenagers to the frozen Baker hinterlands. My fellow chaperone, Ian, even suggested that we head your way. I told him that it'd probably be bad policy to tell the kids, "No O.B.", and then take off all day to do it ourselves. I hope to catch up with you again, maybe in the spring...Greg Lange
;D
Thanks for the info. I guess a lot of times these things are like that telephone game that we played as kids. I had heard a rumor of patrol stumbling upon a similar "situation" in shot 6. Maybe it's all just permutaions of the same story having changed by the time it reached my ears.
Thanks for the info. I guess a lot of times these things are like that telephone game that we played as kids. I had heard a rumor of patrol stumbling upon a similar "situation" in shot 6. Maybe it's all just permutaions of the same story having changed by the time it reached my ears.
Alpentalcorey - good overview of the rescue but I do have one minor correction regarding run names. The bowl south of Pineapple is called "Fuck Bowl".
At the risk of not being PC, the origin of the name as told by an older fellow patroler goes like this - " I came over the ridge to ski Pineapple and two homos were fucking in that bowl on the other side of Pineapple..." and thus the name.
Also - earlier there had been some confusion about the name of the "P...
At the risk of not being PC, the origin of the name as told by an older fellow patroler goes like this - " I came over the ridge to ski Pineapple and two homos were fucking in that bowl on the other side of Pineapple..." and thus the name.
Also - earlier there had been some confusion about the name of the "P...
Three of us skied the lower avy slopes of Cave Ridge/Snoqualmie yesterday, about a mile up the valley trail... (we saw several tracks coming down the phantom waterfall). The snow was phenomenal until early afternoon. After the first run, greg announced "that was the best ski run of my life". But sometime between noon and 1pm, the snow went from deep champagne powder to glop. On our skin up, we noticed the snowpack had settled about 3 inches outside of our skin t...
My current understanding is that the guy climbed up from piss pass towards pinapple but instead of curving around towards great scott bowl he skied down into the Denny creek valley (rather than back into the Alpental valley)via a run known as "fucked bowl". This run offers great skiing but is called that because there is no way to return to Alpental except of course by climbing/skinning back up. My understanding is that he then climbed over Low mountain to the next valley w...
Jerry - thanks for getting some pictures of me standing up. Thanks for Ron for showing us a great safe place to ski.
Honesty compels me to admit that I had a bit of trouble keeping up with this trio of AT skiers, who always seemed to be waiting patiently for me far below.
Mark, how is that possible, I remember a time last summer, at Mt Adams, when Ron and I had a three hour head start, you came running up the hill, over snow, in those super fast tennis shoes of yours while almost passing us, but you did stop and chat for a moment ;D and then took off...
Did I mention it was cold? The day's accumulation:

Ah -- the waiting game!
It was nice of Steve and Jeff to wait for me and Mark on the way down, and all three of them to wait for me on the way up! Hey, "they also serve who ony stand and wait". Milton said that.
Truth be told this was the last of a series of days of "Chugach Snow" -- the kind of stuff Baker gets a few times a year which proves stable at any angle you choose -- save for a slab of a few inches of wind-drift. My only regret is leaving behind so muc...
It was nice of Steve and Jeff to wait for me and Mark on the way down, and all three of them to wait for me on the way up! Hey, "they also serve who ony stand and wait". Milton said that.
Truth be told this was the last of a series of days of "Chugach Snow" -- the kind of stuff Baker gets a few times a year which proves stable at any angle you choose -- save for a slab of a few inches of wind-drift. My only regret is leaving behind so muc...
Mtn Frk - thanks! not sure if it was ours, but we skied the Waterfall on 1-1-04 (happy new year indeed, more like happy new skid mark)
Where did they find the guy? We bumped into the search team ourselves early saturday morning. and watched/heard the helicopter all fri-sat-sunday. It was like skiing in Utah (shameless dig).
Where did they find the guy? We bumped into the search team ourselves early saturday morning. and watched/heard the helicopter all fri-sat-sunday. It was like skiing in Utah (shameless dig).
Thanks, but remember Madoggy, next time I'm bringin the liquid courage so we can see you fly! ;)
;D It was one of the best days so far. Those pow pow face shots over the head and down the neck were quite exhilarating!! BTW nice job to you and Stephan on that jump from the rock, it was GREAT!!!
Mark,
And when I grow up I want to write entertaining trip reports like yours. I too have perfected the "Hey folks, where are you heading " partner needed come on. Although it failed me for the first time at the pass when I approached a couple on the trail near the hut. Dude coped an attitude with me and told me with a mocking voice and a laugh to leave my shovel and beacon at home since I was alone and wouldn't need it. " I will tell you what, I said, I will le...
And when I grow up I want to write entertaining trip reports like yours. I too have perfected the "Hey folks, where are you heading " partner needed come on. Although it failed me for the first time at the pass when I approached a couple on the trail near the hut. Dude coped an attitude with me and told me with a mocking voice and a laugh to leave my shovel and beacon at home since I was alone and wouldn't need it. " I will tell you what, I said, I will le...
Were those yer tracks coming down the Phantom Waterfall??? Very nice to whoever it was. Wish I could have been there..
~Greg "the only splitboarder on the Alpie Volly patrol" D.
~Greg "the only splitboarder on the Alpie Volly patrol" D.
Thanks Ron. Glad that you enjoyed it. Had not planned on hitting the road but on the 19th the conditions locally were horrible. Remember high 50 F. temps? Mazama and the Pass ended up being great given the west side conditions. The hut trip had been in the works for a few months.
Forgot one other stat from this road trip:
Total Feet of Descent:
35,300 ft. over ten days. (60 k for the year so far)
Forgot one other stat from this road trip:
Total Feet of Descent:
35,300 ft. over ten days. (60 k for the year so far)
Russ, I day-skied out of the Salt Creek snow-park at 6,000 feet, climbing to about 8500 feet on Wing Ridge for two runs. McCully Basin looked tempting, but I slept late and was skiing alone, so decided to rein it in.
Ridges were wind-scoured, but sheltered areas facing east and northeast were fine powder over a surprisingly dense base (recent warm temps). The surface powder was totally unconsolidated and sluffed harmlessly at about 45 degrees. It skied very...
Ridges were wind-scoured, but sheltered areas facing east and northeast were fine powder over a surprisingly dense base (recent warm temps). The surface powder was totally unconsolidated and sluffed harmlessly at about 45 degrees. It skied very...
Thanks for including me in the tour -- I thought the north face powder was particularly sweet. The exit out Nason Creek to Yodelin is pretty reasonable in most snow conditions, but sorry if it was false beta this time.
Mark - where did you ski in the Wallowa's and how was the snowpack? I skied in McCully Basin toward the end of January last year and the snowpack was very thin - any better this year?
Sorry, Ron. All I noticed was that it looked remarkably like the one in the photo (though substantially larger in real life), and contained not one, but two of the largest 12v batteries I've ever seen. You could jumpstart a battleship with one of those machines. I mean, should you find yourself so inclined.
I sincerely hope that helps satisfy your curiosity.
I sincerely hope that helps satisfy your curiosity.
I figured I'd let Bill add his own details of the shoulder busting episode. That radiology tech may know X-rays, but he don't know Bill! Speedy recovery, Bill!!!!
I have not managed to get that much computer time over the holidays, but yesterday finally did set up a new board for non-backcountry skiing reports. It is in the "Hot Air" section and is titled "Lift-accessed Skiing Reports - non-backcountry". Here's the link for it.
I decided that "lift-accessed" might best describe the difference between reports that should go in the new board a...
I decided that "lift-accessed" might best describe the difference between reports that should go in the new board a...
From the bottom of Silver Fir lift, I took the Hyak-to-Central crossover trail a very short distance toward Hyak before seeing the tree markers and snowshoe path. The crossover trail must have a little bridge over the creek, because I was already on the east side of the creek when I started up the marked trail. Otherwise, I think the crossing would have been very difficult due to the deep cut of the creek and lack of snowbridges.
When you say that you took the Mountaineer trail, was it the one that starts by crossing the creek? If so, how easy is it to cross now?
Yeah, I shoulda thought of that.
So did you notice whether Alexandra was skinning the PB 100, the PB 200, or the PB 300?
So did you notice whether Alexandra was skinning the PB 100, the PB 200, or the PB 300?
Ron: If I've learned anything since I was a young, callow fellow, it's that Google.com will answer almost any question with ease (c.f., http://www.winnmarketing.com/parkbully1.htm).
Sorry to hear it Bill. Hope you have a speedy recovery.
Great report, Mark, and up to your general level of readability.
So what's this "Pisten-Bully" that these guardian angels... drive?
So what's this "Pisten-Bully" that these guardian angels... drive?
Hi Brent: Nice skiing, wasn't it? Sorry we missed you, although with your appetite for vertical you probably soundly thrashed the Swift Creek trees.
I'm wondering what you mean by "Herman Arm." The ridge which connects Mt. Herman to Mazama Dome? If so, was the surface snow getting crusty in Monday's sun?
Thanks.
I'm wondering what you mean by "Herman Arm." The ridge which connects Mt. Herman to Mazama Dome? If so, was the surface snow getting crusty in Monday's sun?
Thanks.
One sinificant detail Sam left out: The curse of the man who ate everything.
The night before I read an excerpt from a book where the author reasoned (using flawed logic) that he could eat more raw oysters if he gave up skiing because the risks injury from skiing far outweight those from eating raw oysters.
Well, those risks of skiing caught up me in a bad way after Sam and I completed our backcountry run. We headed over to Alps for a few runs after our backountry fresh...
The night before I read an excerpt from a book where the author reasoned (using flawed logic) that he could eat more raw oysters if he gave up skiing because the risks injury from skiing far outweight those from eating raw oysters.
Well, those risks of skiing caught up me in a bad way after Sam and I completed our backcountry run. We headed over to Alps for a few runs after our backountry fresh...
Greg, that's good to know about the descent out to Yodelin Place. I've been tempted to head out that way myself, but it looked a little as you described it.
So I'm not sure which one is Tye Peak, but I think I've been on it. Our tracks from Sunday were off the NE face of (Tye Peak?) down some steep glades and to the skin track below the boulder garden.
I want to ski the W side of that peak/saddle and drop down towards Tye Lake, that looks pretty good too, but not sure a...
So I'm not sure which one is Tye Peak, but I think I've been on it. Our tracks from Sunday were off the NE face of (Tye Peak?) down some steep glades and to the skin track below the boulder garden.
I want to ski the W side of that peak/saddle and drop down towards Tye Lake, that looks pretty good too, but not sure a...
what was the David Lynch line - "I don't like pictures, I want to remember things as I want, not how they actually happened." Or something like that!
Yeah, I know...rookie move. However, taking time to snap photos, can sometimes detract from the skiing experience. I've shot tens of thousands of photos... missing a trip here and there just forces me to write more detailed reports and enjoy the skiing more.
Sounds like a great trip, Greg.
Thanks for sharing it.
Thanks for sharing it.
Gregg,
Thanks for a great report. Timing is everything. I'll be touring at Roger's Pass later this season and touring over to Glacier Circle hut if conditions permit.
Zap
Thanks for a great report. Timing is everything. I'll be touring at Roger's Pass later this season and touring over to Glacier Circle hut if conditions permit.
Zap
I like to refer to it as the "Pooky Slot" ;D
Damn, it was awful!!!! Oprah never sounded better. ;)
Damn, it was awful!!!! Oprah never sounded better. ;)
Skykilo will try to refrain from posting as AlpentalCorey in the future, now that he has noticed the Logout link.


Skykilo will try to refrain from posting as AlpentalCorey in the future, now that he has noticed the Logout link.
AlpentalCorey has never skied the Slot Couloir, but skykilo skied it a week ago and it was really great. Conditions at the ski area were horrendous, rain crust action happening, but the couloir was just sweet pow.
Skykilo would like to second Sam's assessment: do NOT go ski the Slot Couloir! It is all mine! If I catch you there, I will sick Panama on you...

Skykilo would like to second Sam's assessment: do NOT go ski the Slot Couloir! It is all mine! If I catch you there, I will sick Panama on you...

Jim - boy, did we ever. It was sunny and beautiful all morning, and only until we neared Snow Lake did the snow really come down hard. But I don't think that was a bad thing at all, really.
Nice day to be out, huh? Did you get some of the sunbreaks in addition to the squalls?
Gotta love the low snow level.
Gotta love the low snow level.
Nice trip.
Thanks for sharing it.
Thanks for sharing it.