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Check out my post on random tracks with pictures. Did it get that thick on any of your skis?
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HUH? Global Warming??!!?? Since when is springtime a result of global warming?
I skied in through Grand Park to Burroughs Mountain on Friday. No problem on the way in, when the snow was nicely frozen from overnight clear skies, but on the way out pollen accumulated and made what should have been easy gliding into real work. Seems like pollen hazards are harder to predict than avalanche hazards.
As reported by others on this page, the pollen conditions that I experienced yesterday on Goat Mt. was the worst ever. Three members of our party of six skied a few hundred yards through a deciduous covered valley floor. All had problems with their skins not attaching, while the three who had carried their skis didn't.After losing his skins 3 or 4 times, my son finally gave up and post holed up the gully and stayed behind while we climbed to the ridge line. We all had the gummy gunk...
I think I just had my first pollen experience yesteday... after a mile-long glide that supposed to be effortless, but turned into a workout to keep moving, my skis bases were covered with a dark brown tar. Blech. My skis are very un-waxed.
Circumnavigation of table mountain Mt Baker We were beset with pollen destroying any stick of skins to bases.We abandoned our intent to go out to Coleman pinnacle. I had it the worse and I had just waxed.
We were able to climb a lot low angle stuff with just pollen stick. Comically slow skiing down from Herman saddle. Ive been doing this sport 15 years and never seen it that bad.
We were able to climb a lot low angle stuff with just pollen stick. Comically slow skiing down from Herman saddle. Ive been doing this sport 15 years and never seen it that bad.
Swooz, that may be it, if you look at the 6th and 7th photos on my flckr site, the line I think would be reasonable travels off the summit, traverses skiers left just below the two big chutes, then down a treed ridgeline to the creek. The chutes are pretty dramatic looking but have enormous cornices at the entrance and awkward fall lines. I am not ambitious enough to ski those, but I will take someone elses picture if they want to.
Thanks for coming on the trip Tom. It isn't easy to find people willing to put up with my time constraints and it was nice to have company, especially that knew the trail. I made it home one minute before I needed to so it all worked out great.
Phil, the road will probably be around for another couple weeks before the gate goes up. I heard June 20th from one of the road workers a couple of weeks ago. After that, the road will be a bike ride, Big snow will be skied from Dingford,...
Phil, the road will probably be around for another couple weeks before the gate goes up. I heard June 20th from one of the road workers a couple of weeks ago. After that, the road will be a bike ride, Big snow will be skied from Dingford,...
Zap thanks for the info I was beginning to wonder if we were going to miss the corn snow this season. I've skied my fill of mush!!!
The Middle Fork is great... :) glad to see the road is still open.
Sounds like a good trip...I was thinking of heading up there next week. I have never been to Baker and would appriciate as much info as you could share. Such as, time you left the car, time to summit, how far could you skin, is there a need to rope up, etc.
Thanks,
Pawkala
Thanks,
Pawkala
Dammit, Jim, I am a skier not a traveler! (for those who remember Bones and Star Trek) Why did I have to be away again back east for this one? Got to get up there with you some year. Glad it was a great trip. I'll get details from Pico on Monday.
John
John
That is a nice area to visit once to road melts out.
I think the photo you have titled "East side of Face Mtn" is actually Locomotive Mountain.
Thanks for the report on the Hurley area...looks like fun...
I think the photo you have titled "East side of Face Mtn" is actually Locomotive Mountain.
Thanks for the report on the Hurley area...looks like fun...
I'm sorry we missed the chance to see you guys up there. I was also scoping out a line that would run down to about the 3k level of the Dingford trail, about a mile short of Lil Myrtle lakes. So far it looks like it would go but I think I will save finding out for another year.
Aha! I wondered how small this BC ski world really is.
We were up there the next day apparently. And with all those nice footprints, didn't need the compass to get up there! Wednesday was plenty warm, so we had nice soft edgeable snow even with our impressive 8:30 AM "alpine" start (we had a place to stay in Medford.) We took our time skinning up but made the first (falsie) summit around 1:30.
We were unable to resist taking all of the possible turns down t...
We were up there the next day apparently. And with all those nice footprints, didn't need the compass to get up there! Wednesday was plenty warm, so we had nice soft edgeable snow even with our impressive 8:30 AM "alpine" start (we had a place to stay in Medford.) We took our time skinning up but made the first (falsie) summit around 1:30.
We were unable to resist taking all of the possible turns down t...
Matt,
I put on the skins as soon as the snow was continuous and I got up off of the steep slope above the trail. Probably around 6000 feet. It's pretty open up above that so a splitboard would be nice through there I'd guess.
I put on the skins as soon as the snow was continuous and I got up off of the steep slope above the trail. Probably around 6000 feet. It's pretty open up above that so a splitboard would be nice through there I'd guess.
Snow troll ,We didn't go up the Paradise but got a good veiw of it from th etop of cowlitz rocks. The major crevasse that you are talking about th eon eat the pitchbreak i sjust now starting to unzip from the Cowlitz glacier side. Still skiable for quite awhile.You might notice the Paradise coverage in the picture with Gary and Ken pointing.
I wouldn't hesitate to ski it from the top this weekend. still the conservative way is to be cautious, ski down to the midrocks bear to skie...
I wouldn't hesitate to ski it from the top this weekend. still the conservative way is to be cautious, ski down to the midrocks bear to skie...
Thanks for the report - this one's been on my radar screen for awhile too. Did you do any skinning up higher, or just pack your boards? I'm thinking that with the long approach it might not be worth bringing my split board because it's a little heavier, unless I went earlier when there was snow on the Pamelia Lake trail. Thanks,
Matt
Matt
How high up did you go on the Paradise? What's opened up in terms of cracks...most importantly the large gaper(s) in the 8000 foot range?
thanks...steve
thanks...steve
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I hope that's okay Greg! Your picture made a big impression!
No problem, Lowell. I was shocked myself, kind of like returning to the house you grew up in after a couple of decades and finding a WalMart in its place . . .
I felt a small tendon tear just looking at the cornice pics !
As I PMed you. It should be fairly mellow, the snowpack is pretty summerlike in that area.
Also the late afternoon sun does not hit that basin directly.
As always, play it safe and stay aware.
Also the late afternoon sun does not hit that basin directly.
As always, play it safe and stay aware.
jdclimber, what's your experience been with snow stability late in the afternoon up there, especially in the Pineapple Pass area? I was up in the Chair Peak Basin last week and it was getting soft by mid-day. Thinking about heading up tomorrow afternoon but it's going to be warm. Thoughts?
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For a better resolution, you should have just emailed him the picture... ;)
Yeah, I did that after they left my house. I've e-mailed them quite a few pictures.
They might still use the screen shots, though, because they can pull back to show the hysterical skier pointing and gesturing wildly. ;)
I would say between 1 and 2 weeks....But this is a completely random guess.
For a better resolution, you should have just emailed him the picture... ;)
The crew from KIRO-TV came over to my house this morning for some follow-up shots. I showed them a few "then-and-now" photos of glaciers in the North Cascades and also old pictures of the Paradise ice caves.
While they were packing up, I pulled up TOPO! on my laptop to show them where the Paradise ice caves used to be. Then I went to kam's 2005 TAY thread about trying to...
While they were packing up, I pulled up TOPO! on my laptop to show them where the Paradise ice caves used to be. Then I went to kam's 2005 TAY thread about trying to...
Thanks for the additional info, the times and the depth of the sloughing are good know about.
Yes, please post pictures. We were thinking of Ullrich's Sunday, but might change if the snow is rotten - what do you think (sounds like you only got into a small part of it)?
I was up there 5/23 from 4-6:30 pm and it was sluffy - slow, wet, 3-4 inch surface slides, but nothing dangerous. The pollen problem has dissapated, but not disapeared. Had to take skis off a number of times on the climb to navigate rocks and trees.
Still good coverage farther up the Alpental valley near Source Lake, with about 4 ft+ of snow on the valley floor (skinned-up to the base of Great Scott Bowl last Sunday (20th) and turned-around at the on-set of rain; suprisingly nice turns back down through "Big Trees" to the valley floor despite the light rainfall). Some photos are posted here.
Noticed the lower open slopes near the Alpental...
Noticed the lower open slopes near the Alpental...
The lift areas looked to have good coverage from the lodge up. It is pretty tight getting in to International from the summit...unless you drop in ;D. There was a bit of pollen so might want to be prepared. Was thinking about heading back to Kaleetan Peak again should be good! Jay
I started skiing down at 5:30, and looked back up from the parking lot at 6:30. From the base, I saw a number of slide paths that I didn't remember from the view where I decided to turn around. I didn't see nor hear any slides, but I was kind of around a ridge from them. All the snow I personally encountered was nice and stable, outside of becoming sun-softened. I encountered a couple of hikers on my way up who reported that they thought that things were stable and that their dogs had...
Thanks for the report. Any estimate on how much longer Red will be in condition?
Thanks for the report and the great pics! 8)
I need to get back in that area soon!
I need to get back in that area soon!
Thanks for the tip on being able to ski till June. I was looking for a close place to climb and ski near Seattle. Did you stay in the lift areas?
Thanks!
Rusty Knees
Thanks!
Rusty Knees
Hi Robie, Great pictures. I met you on St. Helens a few weeks ago. I should have taken you up on your invitation to Cowlitz. We tried Hood, and ended camping in a gale. I did have a great ski down on hard ice with a full pack the next morning. Not nearly so nice as your report. We're looking at a couple more trips...Muir (of course) and Adams sometime in June. Want to join us?
Don (Rusty Knees)
Don (Rusty Knees)
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...stand and ski on spring cornices that size.
definitely not my usual size cornice jumping ;)
cold conditions kept them as winter cornices.
steep soft landing made it fun.
Kjack, you shouldn't speak about a mute point.
DG, I believe the word is "mute." A mute point. Trust me.
Did you come back down the Easy Pass gully below Greybeard or did you cross over Ragged Ridge to the north and come down that bowl? Were those cornices on the west ridge of Greybeard or did you go north from the pass?
The trail up to Pameila Lake isn't a problem at all to follow, you just have to watch your footing when hiking in a couple spots. There is considerable debris (mostly large rocks) from the November floods but the USFS went in and marked the trail course with pink flags wherever it is remotely confusing to follow. Their sign at the trailhead states that they are going to clear it out in late spring, so it may be a moot issue soon, anyways. I'm not sure about the PCT c...
Must not have been many alternate routes.
oh, there were alternatives, but we went with Monika's route choice....she seems to enjoy jumping off of things ;D
thanks for calling it "courage", some might call it something else!
Which way did you ski down? Doesn't look like you came down the same way.
we were lost. i don't remem...
Zap
Hey, I ran into you in the parking lot- I climbed up to the Summit House and skied Green Valley- pretty nice skiing- compared to the rest of the area. The only problem with snow conditions was about 50 foot below the ridge by the Summit House- the new snow wasn't bonding very good to the breakage crust and then the rotten snow below it- thinking about putting the crampons on. During skinning you could feel the crust compress into the rotten snow. I could fee...
Hey, I ran into you in the parking lot- I climbed up to the Summit House and skied Green Valley- pretty nice skiing- compared to the rest of the area. The only problem with snow conditions was about 50 foot below the ridge by the Summit House- the new snow wasn't bonding very good to the breakage crust and then the rotten snow below it- thinking about putting the crampons on. During skinning you could feel the crust compress into the rotten snow. I could fee...
Wow! I'm impressed. I'm one of the people who helped you at the ranger station. Thanks for the report. Skiing looks awesome. :D
Was up there the week after you on the 12th. It was my first trip up hwy 20 also. From the pass we went NW up to 7690 and them skied down the way we came up. Snow was pretty heavy/wet. Spectacular views from up there. Saw a massive slide come off the top of one of the peaks SW across the valley.
Which way did you ski down? Doesn't look like you came down the same way.
Which way did you ski down? Doesn't look like you came down the same way.
The road had many snow drifts across it. I was able to drive through most of them by driving back and forth in 4wd to make a rut that I could drive through. There was one that was quite deep and about 60 to 80 ft across. I got as far in it as I could and then we winched through the rest. There was a few downed trees that we had to move, nothing too big just a couple feet in diameter. On the way back down I was able to drive through all my previous tracks without getting stuck. At 6400' the...