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Those are some beautiful photoes in J Stern's gallery-any photoshop used?
More Pictures:
http://staff.washington.edu/jstern77/gallery/eightmile_ski-01_17_09
http://joshuasternphotography.com/
http://staff.washington.edu/jstern77/gallery/eightmile_ski-01_17_09
http://joshuasternphotography.com/
I'm not a huge fan of snowmobiles generally, but the newer four-strokes, especially in this type of application (shuttling to a trailhead along FS roads or snow covered highways) doesn't bother me in the least.
Makes me want to spend more time skiing with Toby. ;)
Makes me want to spend more time skiing with Toby. ;)
The blisters are healing slowly. I may be able to get out this weekend.
Nice pics Boot, thanks for putting those up!
Burroughs Mtn's East Cirque is big and beautiful. The turns were butter on the S/SE slopes.
author=Scotsman link=topic=12000.msg50242#msg50242 date=1232682300]
They traveled to the base of the tour on one snowmobile towing two skiers.
I bet Itchy had to be the lead guy on the rope to get "first tracks". ;D
author=Garth_Ferber link=topic=11997.msg50195#msg50195 date=1232635055]
Hey Silas - how about a thanks to the NWAC for making data available in the first place!!! :D Your chum, Garth
Garth, you are absolutely right! Thanks to your team for sure.
Can't say I agree with T.Eastman either. They traveled to the base of the tour on one snowmobile towing two skiers. Now that's snowmobile-pooling !!
author=dberdinka link=topic=11965.msg50233#msg50233 date=1232666856]
Can you elaborate on what they got busted for??
author=Matt C link=topic=11965.msg50235#msg50235 date=1232670008]
And what is the penalty? Is the fine a big enough deterant?
This topic should probably just end, mainly due to the fact that nothing will stop sled necks. This particular group had sle...
author=John_Morrow]Do you know if anyone has even alerted this to the Mt. Baker Ranger District? If so, what did they say? Yeah, budgets are non existent, and it takes some specialized winter skills (snowmobileing, bcskiing, avy assessment, etc) to get into an effective law enforcement position, but they need to be pressured a bit.
...Things can be done besides just bitching (my apologies if you have initiated an effort).
Understand, though, that if an...
Yep. Bitburger is available in the canned form, by I much prefer Pilsner Urquell if I'm going for the lighter styles. Indeed, Youngs is tasty, but I look for a little more bang fro my buck if I'm gonna be muling it uphill for a while. There seems to be a wider variety of good beers in cans now like Fat Tire (although I'm not a fan). Perhaps one of the best backpack beers available is from Calderra brewing in Ashland. If you have a local beer shop, they should have it or at least b...
FWIW- Sleds are getting more and more "friendly". I bought a 4-stroke and it purrs like a kitten, while getting great gas mileage and no more exhaust than an automobile! A lot of access occurs within 5 miles of our place. Keep in mind that many snow sliders drive many miles to sit on chairlifts at an overcrowded ski hill that spew diesel all day, everyday. Sledding in multiple miles to save energy, as well as daylight in January, opens up a whole new world. No brainer for me. I recomme...
And what is the penalty? Is the fine a big enough deterant?
Can you elaborate on what they got busted for??
Yeeaaaa.....
If it makes you guys feel better..... these sled necks got busted big time yesterday at Schreiber Meadows. So.......there is some law enforement presence........it's just not as good as Mr. Jack!
If it makes you guys feel better..... these sled necks got busted big time yesterday at Schreiber Meadows. So.......there is some law enforement presence........it's just not as good as Mr. Jack!
Hands down, Young's Double Chocolate Stout. It's a great breakfast beer.
author=T. Eastman link=topic=12000.msg50179#msg50179 date=1232603359]
It may be hard for some of us to feel your frustration with the helicopter operation and their tracking of the goods because you sledded in and were merely deploying your variation of their game. Getting the goods is not easy but using machines to get you in is kind of a cop out. How long would it have taken a fit person to ski up the road? Oh, nordic skiing is so yesterday...
Isn't it illegal or immoral. or somthin' to do the birthday tour in January???
Just curious, does Bitburger come in a can? Nice call on the Old Chub! And sweet turns you guys, awesome trip!
Stugie,
Schu and I were up there same day. I'll put up some pics for you tonight.
Ruth was bony up high and most interesting all N and NW facing slopes looked totally wind scoured and cleaned of snow, whereas S/SE was well covered even after all these days of steady sun. Guess the last storms blew in from the NW. Second pic shows Berkeley area.
Bob,
How are those blisters coming? First pic shows St Elmo's Pass if you didn&#...
Schu and I were up there same day. I'll put up some pics for you tonight.
Ruth was bony up high and most interesting all N and NW facing slopes looked totally wind scoured and cleaned of snow, whereas S/SE was well covered even after all these days of steady sun. Guess the last storms blew in from the NW. Second pic shows Berkeley area.
Bob,
How are those blisters coming? First pic shows St Elmo's Pass if you didn&#...
Coverage on Ruth, if I was looking at the right mountain, seemed a anemic for this time of year. Some rocks/cliffs were showing through on the Northern aspect. I don't know what Berkeley Park is, sorry.
Nice effort though, that's a haul. What's the coverage on Ruth look like? Berkeley Park?
author=XCJer link=topic=11965.msg50169#msg50169 date=1232592642]
Forest Service law enforcement is a joke. The USFS probably doesn't even have a person and/or will to enforce the Wilderness Area boundaries. There were fresh snowmobile tracks up there last May.
Maybe they should transfer some of those gung-ho guys from the border crossings to wilderness protection. ;)
Well, as gear discussions go, we must also cover the brewskies in all fairness. Anyone got a favorite that needs to come with on a trip? I'm a Guiness fan, on tap or the can, so that's my go, but we got Old Chub and I know a few people that like to summit with a can of Rainier...
"Forest Service law enforcement is a joke. "
It seems that Forest Service law enforcement is HIGHLY SELECTIVE. No Forest Park Pass? They'll ticket you in a hurry.
It seems that Forest Service law enforcement is HIGHLY SELECTIVE. No Forest Park Pass? They'll ticket you in a hurry.
Great TR dberdinka, thanks! The photo is perfect for seeing the landslide you reconned.
With regards to the snowmobiles, XCJer:
Do you know if anyone has even...
With regards to the snowmobiles, XCJer:
author=XCJer link=topic=11965.msg50169#msg50169 date=1232592642]
Forest Service law enforcement is a joke. The USFS probably doesn't even have a person and/or will to enforce the Wilderness Area boundaries. There were fresh snowmobile tracks up there last May.
Do you know if anyone has even...
Great shot of tracks making advantage of side loading in gulleys! Way to ferret out the snow !
Hey Silas - how about a thanks to the NWAC for making data available in the first place!!! :D Your chum, Garth
Big effort Bob,
That is a phenomenal amount of skating.
That is a phenomenal amount of skating.
;D true enough. it must be god's plan to put so much snow in such a flat area. maybe THAT's why i'm agnostic... ;)
Whohoo! Thanks for the vertigo...I kept trying to straighten the camera until I fell out of my chair. ;D Maybe if I wtch it with my skis on. Great run! Lookes like beautiful country.
Nice! Good job, Chris & company. Man, the blue skies! This inversion layer is at least good for that, eh? Great pictures, dudes.
Thanks for the feedback. Take off eh, you hoser.
I love the fact that the bivy photo has become so humorous and the origin of gear discussion. We put the photo in the mix as a joke...."haha look at Graham 10 mins after waking up with that sh*teating grin drinking instant brick joe" Even before we hiked up the cooly. It was almost more fun camping than skiing....almost.
I actually like the shorter shovel, and the only thing I can think might have influenced it is our short little scoop shovel I had back in the midwest. Had to shovel two to four driveways everytime it snowed.
Having been up there in winter last year, thanks to sleds, I can feel the frustration of tracked out BC after walking uphill for hours.
In terms of sympathy, admittedly, there are shades of gray. For me, and the Jan 18 posse, the sled replaced the car, sled never left snow covered pavement. Not some stunt of snowmobiles going up hill in "ski terrain" like you see in the movies.
I feel that a helicopter in touring terrain is pretty close to seeing a dirt bike on a hiking trai...
In terms of sympathy, admittedly, there are shades of gray. For me, and the Jan 18 posse, the sled replaced the car, sled never left snow covered pavement. Not some stunt of snowmobiles going up hill in "ski terrain" like you see in the movies.
I feel that a helicopter in touring terrain is pretty close to seeing a dirt bike on a hiking trai...
I also did Granite, on Saturday (1/17). Corn was just on the firm side of right at noon. Started from not quite the top but also went down gut of gully and made the effort to run down the lower gully for as long as possible. Along the way, inspired by the two fearless snowboarders who I happened to be just behind (but not so inspired that I repeated the giganto cojones straightlines over 3 foot wide collapsing 45* snowbridges that they did), worked my way past at least two waterfalls before givi...
It may be hard for some of us to feel your frustration with the helicopter operation and their tracking of the goods because you sledded in and were merely deploying your variation of their game. Getting the goods is not easy but using machines to get you in is kind of a cop out. How long would it have taken a fit person to ski up the road? Oh, nordic skiing is so yesterday...
author=Scotsman link=topic=12000.msg50158#msg50158 date=1232575626]
Yeah, I was a wee bit worried when I hadn't heard from them.
Now, I'm jealous.
Well done guys, getting the birthday tour is soooo cool.
Itchy, I'm so proud of you and well done Jay and Sam!
Thanks papa bear- always good to get some affirmation of a job well done.
We sure did have a great time -and what a great place to be...
Forest Service law enforcement is a joke. The USFS probably doesn't even have a person and/or will to enforce the Wilderness Area boundaries. There were fresh snowmobile tracks up there last May.
Anyone have a fav Beartooth tour?
thanks marcus! if only they would design the deploy with another handle length inside to give it that crucial extra 8 inches or so... after losing a shovel handle during a powder day at crystal, i was adamant about buying a shovel that stayed in one piece! now i'm ambivalent...
Nice work guys...
I ditched the Deploy because it's so short -- I figured in serious winter snow-camp building, or digging someone out of a burial, the extra length would be more efficient. Couldn't find the Transfer, so I got a Life-Link. The BD shovel design is pretty slick though.
I ditched the Deploy because it's so short -- I figured in serious winter snow-camp building, or digging someone out of a burial, the extra length would be more efficient. Couldn't find the Transfer, so I got a Life-Link. The BD shovel design is pretty slick though.
author=Snow Bell link=topic=12000.msg50142#msg50142 date=1232561325]
Good getting guys. Papa Bear called me early Monday AM wondering if I had heard from you. He was worried; how cute is that?
Yeah, I was a wee bit worried when I hadn't heard from them.
Now, I'm jealous.
Well done guys, getting the birthday tour is soooo cool.
Itchy, I'm so proud of you and well done Jay and Sam!
nice work I'm glad NCHS didn't track the area to bad.
If you own a pass to any ski resort in Washington you get a industry discount of only 700$ a day.
If you own a pass to any ski resort in Washington you get a industry discount of only 700$ a day.
Good getting guys. Papa Bear called me early Monday AM wondering if I had heard from you. He was worried; how cute is that?
I am glad that you found favorable snow conditions, it seems like it could have gone either way for you up there this weekend.
Good pics Jay and Chris. Where are Sam's? Did he do his famous cornice drop trick? Did you consider lining up at the landing area with the heli skiers for a lap or two? It mighta worked.
I am glad that you found favorable snow conditions, it seems like it could have gone either way for you up there this weekend.
Good pics Jay and Chris. Where are Sam's? Did he do his famous cornice drop trick? Did you consider lining up at the landing area with the heli skiers for a lap or two? It mighta worked.
Not as bad as Yeti shit. That can really slow you down.
Good job making the best of the conditions Jayme.
Good job making the best of the conditions Jayme.