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When you get to be Silas's age, they are all girls
Glad you got some of the sun too! One question though, were the "School Marms" Women or girls? :)
Here is a better photo with morning light on the two runs.
Scott did both, I only did the one on the right.
Scott did both, I only did the one on the right.
Nice line! Did you guys pull into the Casa de Scott. I was in there a couple of weeks ago, figured I would pull in and the place was covered in three feet of snow.
Fun day. I wish my body was up for that second lap. This cold is lingering for far too long.
Saw lots of tracks up there. We started up a few minutes before 6PM. One backside run. The front side had set up a bit on our descent at dusk.
Great route, and thanks for the thought inspiring read Ryan.
Perhaps the akwardness in our meeting had something to do with my ambivelence towards you...look forward to telling you about it someday.
Perhaps the akwardness in our meeting had something to do with my ambivelence towards you...look forward to telling you about it someday.
nice!
hoping to see the moon this weekend. friday is forecast for a full moon and clear night!
hoping to see the moon this weekend. friday is forecast for a full moon and clear night!
Missed you Silas. We did the 9:30-1 shift. Not too hard crust early with just enough top dressing to carve -- sun softened up all morning with best snow around noon.
Good one.... I think I briefly ran into you guys that weekend...
Cheers.
Cheers.
On your panorama shot I can see the glacier I spent many weeks on doing glaciology research. I was there in summer, wondering what it would be like to ski in winter. Now I know...... 8)
Timely and appreciated report. Thanks to both of you.
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That's inspiring, and shockingly doable!
Great trip; great pictures.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Nice to meet you Nick.
Likewise Lisa. Nice to meet you as well. How many names did we mention in common? I lost track.
Definitely better than the previous south bowl appetizer run. Thanks for the latter half skin track. I think this would be called: "Full conditions." My limited expectations were certainly exceeded.
Likewise Lisa. Nice to meet you as well. How many names did we mention in common? I lost track.
Definitely better than the previous south bowl appetizer run. Thanks for the latter half skin track. I think this would be called: "Full conditions." My limited expectations were certainly exceeded.
Go to the first sign if it says open proceed, if not go through potato patch. If its open continue on to the next sign and hit the ridge from there. Why would anyone want to go up through there when they are doing control work?
Guessing the "skicrow" was more about the concern of wy'east going big this past weekend. I really do not think you have every right to be there, especially in a closed inbounds/sidecountry area. Don't you become mea...
Guessing the "skicrow" was more about the concern of wy'east going big this past weekend. I really do not think you have every right to be there, especially in a closed inbounds/sidecountry area. Don't you become mea...
I think there's other backflips in the archives. ;)
We definitely slayed some good lines on Mazama ridge through the sunshine and end of the day. Some scary cornice releases had us making some conservative line choices. Sun is nice, but sure can change the snowpack rapidly.
We definitely slayed some good lines on Mazama ridge through the sunshine and end of the day. Some scary cornice releases had us making some conservative line choices. Sun is nice, but sure can change the snowpack rapidly.
author=MJS link=topic=24356.msg102992#msg102992 date=1333482158]
I am not sure what the goal of hauling a mannequin with ski boots and a patrol jacket up the mountain would be.
It's probably just an extra measure to try to deter people from heading up the canyon on days when the avy danger is high. It's at least cheaper than paying a patroller to stand there all day, although I guess it depends on how convincing it looks...
The MHM Corporation merely holds the permits to operate a business on public land. It is not private land, therefore you have the right as a taxpayer to be there, and my conversations several years ago with the Forest Service confirmed this. If you'd like to find out the specifics, contact the Hood River Ranger station, and ask for the officer that handles the permits for MHM.
However, I believe that cooperation with the MHM Patrol is essential for everyone's safety, and th...
However, I believe that cooperation with the MHM Patrol is essential for everyone's safety, and th...
My wife and I were up there on Sunday as well. We skied up to the huge cornices at the start of the bowl, but it was feeling really wind affected and we assumed the bowl would be slabby. We skied a run a bit down the ridge from the bowl and found the fresh 6 to 12 inches were quite reactive soft slabs. Any roll over in the terrain was easily ski triggered. We measured the bed surface of one start zone at 40 degrees. These soft slabs quickly fell apart and did not go...
Corn does sound good. And as a former Colorado resident familar with the area, that snowpack sure is depressing to see. :( It's going to be a long, dry summer for the watersheds in the area.
Nice, corn sounds good.
author=Split007 link=topic=24356.msg102980#msg102980 date=1333470136]
Once again, if MHM is not doing control work, then BC travelers have every right to continue up Clark Canyon.
its was my understanding that you are not allowed entry if the area is mearly closed to resort skiers, not just control work, uphill or down. This is where Meadows could do a better job clarifying.
What makes this deceiving is sometimes they...
At the Heather canyon chairlift there is another small sign that specifies "no uphill traffic beyond this point". The MHM Patrollers we met mentioned that this is where we should head up the ridge toward Newton canyon.
Once again, if MHM is not doing control work, then BC travelers have every right to continue up Clark Canyon. You will not be arrested or forced to take avy classes (although you really should take a class).
Once again, if MHM is not doing control work, then BC travelers have every right to continue up Clark Canyon. You will not be arrested or forced to take avy classes (although you really should take a class).
author=Split007 link=topic=24356.msg102966#msg102966 date=1333424376]
Also, we spoke with the MHM Patrollers at the "Test Dummy" site on the walk in, and they were very helpful in sharing information about control work that was done earlier in the day. I have been lectured by MHM patrol in the past for going up the canyon during control work, and while we have every right to be there(according to the USFS), Hood River County has other ideas...a...
a buddy of mine was forced by MHM to take an avy class after poaching gods wall on a closed day.
We descended the canyon just before you guys. Yes, the cornices were BIG. After some slope evaluation (CT4Q3 15cm, and CT24Q2 75cm) we decided it was good to go...however on the skin up I noticed settlement and cracking, so we decided to head back on Pea Gravel ridge(south facing), where we then set off a shallow slab, 50 feet wide and 6-8 inches deep, on a roller ski cut . Not too bad, but it ran. It was surely "Considerable" out there.
Also, we spoke with the MHM Patroller...
Also, we spoke with the MHM Patroller...
It's all good. :) Glad you had a good day out!
Thanks Randy. I really appreciate these short and informative reports which help me decide where to ski based on wind, sun, and up to date snow conditions. No need for anyone to share their personal secret stash with me, I respect their privacy. It would be great to have more folks share similar information, no worries about how unimportant or unimpressive the day was, and no need for extraordinary photos which sometimes slow the report rendering on our smartphones.
Glad to hear y...
Glad to hear y...
I'm not sure I understand the difference between climbing and skiing. I've climbed a number of things that are visible from the road and have route descriptions in old and new guidebooks. Despite all the information available we still had adventures on route.
Wishbone Arete
Wishbone Arete
I fail to see how Ruby Mountain is a secret. It exists on topographic maps and satellite images. It is visible from nearby locations and is accessible as a day trip from a major road.
Amar, I enjoyed reading this trip report and always read your many detailed and thoughtful trip reports. I hope you leave this report intact with all the details.
Amar, I enjoyed reading this trip report and always read your many detailed and thoughtful trip reports. I hope you leave this report intact with all the details.
author=OldHouseMan link=topic=24356.msg102935#msg102935 date=1333397574">
I wander what the Meadows policy is on skiing into the closed area from above?
I have heard rumors that they will have you arrested if entering any closed area due to avalanche work in progress. You can't validate that on their website (which is a shame) but they do post when avalanche work is in progress where they clearly state to "stay out of th...
author=OldHouseMan link=topic=24356.msg102935#msg102935 date=1333397574]
I wander what the Meadows policy is on skiing into the closed area from above? I know they are sticklers about climbing into the closed area from the bottom. I have to assume that the policy is the same if coming in from the top or the bottom.
While the link only addresses going out, I believe they will pull your season pass (if you have one) if you enter fro...
I wander what the Meadows policy is on skiing into the closed area from above? I know they are sticklers about climbing into the closed area from the bottom. I have to assume that the policy is the same if coming in from the top or the bottom.
That was a blast! Very nice powder turns in the upper forest for April! On our second run after Tia guided you home, we made it up to more like 5200 or so by staying mostly in mature forest and trailbreaking was a tad easier than what we found as we broke into those open areas at the top of the first track. We dug some pits in the open area at 5000 and I felt a thin and not super hard ice crust at about 18", but did not get any shears on it. There was a layer down at about 2.5' where w...
In nearby British Columbia, a number places like Ruby Mtn have a hut near timberline. Many of the public huts have a couple dozen folks staying at the hut and skiing the area every weekend, the stealth huts less so. I don't think there will ever be a public hut on Ruby Mtn -- perhaps there is a stealth hut up there already that the locals want to protect from discovery.
On a recent BC hut trip, my group of six skiied for three solid days out of the hut and had...
On a recent BC hut trip, my group of six skiied for three solid days out of the hut and had...
author=scottb link=topic=24307.msg102894#msg102894 date=1333339012]
OK here is the real reason we Skagit Valley elitist and others in the "know" do not want all you Seattle poachers up on "our" mountain(besides all those ridiculous green Gore-tex pants and never ending stream of Subaru wagons taking up space in the parking lots). Its a known local fact that the metal box on top of Ruby is not a radio repeater, but a secret stash of CANDY!!!...
Looks nice in there. That's pretty funny about the "skicrow". Who said ski patrollers aren't creative?
Tia needs snowshoes! We (Don, Jeff) were up north of US2 with 2' of powder accumulated in the preceding 3-4 days. The trees between 4k and 5k were sweet, even after the sun started trashing the open slopes. Crust at 2' softened and disappeared at 4300'.
author=Lowell_Skoog link=topic=24307.msg102807#msg102807 date=1333177216]
It's what distinguishes the Cascades from a place like the Alps.
I am not sure how I stand on this issue overall. I go back and forth as evidenced in my TR posting past.
But I do think one fallacy here in the argument, Lowell, is that access is what distinguishes the Alps form the Cascades, really. Few plowed roads, no huts,...
Thank gawd it's "ONLY" playing in the mountains...
Amar and Lowell, along with every one else who's chosen to enter the world of internet chatter;...please keep doing exactly what you love to do, continue to inspire and don't ever stop sharing...as mountain people, we are only a postage stamp compared to the rest of the hectic planet that just don't get it...
Amar and Lowell, along with every one else who's chosen to enter the world of internet chatter;...please keep doing exactly what you love to do, continue to inspire and don't ever stop sharing...as mountain people, we are only a postage stamp compared to the rest of the hectic planet that just don't get it...
Haha, I do question some of his routes in there that's for sure.
Thanks for the info. If I ever do this one again I'll try either of those more direct routes.
Thanks for the info. If I ever do this one again I'll try either of those more direct routes.
That is the first backflip I've seen on TAY. I hope it's not the last!