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Thanks for the report, even though you have more snow than here in the NW it sure does not make me want to drive nine hours to enjoy it!
author=Good2Go link=topic=33369.msg138375#msg138375 date=1420935023]
Guaranteed corn.  South side roolz!


Next inversion I'm calling you Aaron!
Andy, that crown in the back bowl extended all the way around to north facing as well . Intermittent only at the east facing lower angle slope. I had heard of this happening but never seen it before.  All along the Paradise wall there were slides larger than normal. It all settled out right at the last serac. The rain runnels had stopped at that point as well on the east facing paradise glacier runs. It sure surprised us and we went for it closely following DW's tracks.
I'm with Dan, best report/snow this year, and good to hear Scott still has a fools errand or two left in him! Nice going.
author=Pete_H link=topic=33369.msg138356#msg138356 date=1420912716]
Interesting choice. I wonder what the south side of the mountain would ski like? Maybe the corn and sunscreen you were after.


Guaranteed corn.  South side roolz!
John, all I can say is he he he, what were you thinking?
Yeah on the 6th there were many many avalanches; the back bowl on Mazama had the longest crown I've seen there (on the south-facing slope of 911).  I found a broad range  of crusts.  Coming down the face of Mazama I was pleased with myself and my new Volkl Nanuqs until a whole plate of crust collapsed underneath me sending my lead ski flying and my *ss up, back, and straight down on my heel: OUCH!  Layed there a while waiting to see if I could move my right leg.  Then garlaned down the rest...
January 7th continued... skinned to 8000 where we found the semi boiler plate again.  Being a lot older and a bit smarter... turned it around and headed down.
Yep that was amazing January corn. Especially given the fact every other aspect was crap. We made it to the longmire gate at 5:03 with the Ranger right behind us.
author=lrudholm link=topic=33369.msg138363#msg138363 date=1420920682]
The best skiing out there is always on 8 mile rd.


Absolutely!  Worthy of a few laps.
author=Pete_H link=topic=33369.msg138356#msg138356 date=1420912716]
Interesting choice. I wonder what the south side of the mountain would ski like? Maybe the corn and sunscreen you were after.


Our original intent was a north side approach to a south side descent.  But a late start combined with a nearly impassable Mtnrs. Creek, dispelled with that notion.  By the time we got to the basin below Stuart, and saw the state...
The 1/7 pics were in the area we skied, lovely baby butt skiing +6 to +7, down lower it turned into -5 ice on the way out.
The best skiing out there is always on 8 mile rd.
We had similar conditions on the 7th.  We kept searching and found this...
I love TRs like this, they remind me of all the crazy ideas and silly tours I have taken..........and all of those trips with, some if not a lot, of hindsight are all really funny.
Interesting choice. I wonder what the south side of the mountain would ski like? Maybe the corn and sunscreen you were after.
author=mikerolfs link=topic=33369.msg138333#msg138333 date=1420843284]
I love your trips, John. And I love your Trip Reports.  You do it, so I don't have to.  :)



Thanks Mike!  Maybe a couple more feet of snow and the mountaineer's creek approach will be trivial.  As it was, it's even worse than summer schwacking.  Much worse. 

Wait a week and then go check it out and report back...
author=mikerolfs link=topic=33369.msg138333#msg138333 date=1420843284]
You do it, so I don't have to.  :)

Interesting.  That's exactly what I say about your summer trip reports Mike.  ;)
Thanks for the TR. I think pictures often describe the conditions better than words.
3 notes:
1. Chains (or socks) can be required for 4wd's. It's rare, but could go into effect while you're at Paradise, stranding you there. The most the rangers will do for you then is to call a tow truck to bring you chains, upping the cost considerably.

2. The gift store by the Inn in Longmire sells chains and will take them back for a full refund if unused. It's a service the concessionaire has agreed to provide to visitors.

3. Echo JPH that if...
I love your trips, John. And I love your Trip Reports.  You do it, so I don't have to.  :)
author=Lowell_Skoog link=topic=33353.msg138306#msg138306 date=1420766890]
It seems like skimo gear would be cool for a trip like this. Super light and nimble, but you can actually ski with it.

Depends on what kind of experience you want.  On a whim once, driving back from CA, stopped at the lodge and rented XC gear.  We easily skied about 1/4 around the lake and back in a long afternoon.  A tip of the hat to those sloggi...
Beautiful pictures. A winter circumnavigation is very intriguing. It seems like skimo gear would be cool for a trip like this. Super light and nimble, but you can actually ski with it.
I only traveled 4-5 miles of the 31 mile loop.  There were a few wind scoured spots where asphalt was visible.

On the skin back to Rim Village, I started wondering how I would do the circumnavigation... classic xc or BC skis, clockwise or counterclockwise, sled or backpack, tent or snow cave, -20  ::) or 25 degree bag, 2 or 3 days, etc. I'd use my backcountry setup since I'd hope to add in elevation along the way, to ski some slopes below the road along with the peaks on the...
Nevermind - post went thru first time!
Yea I'm still having posting problems. Good to see you Sunday. It was surprisingly deep... It seems you got a picture of my best side ;)
author=danpeck link=topic=33318.msg138244#msg138244 date=1420599754]
I think this is the best report this season!  Nice work.


Thanks!

Long days make for long lasting memories.
This is on our list. How would this terrain work for circumnavigation of the lake?

Thanks for posting!
Nice,
Very scenic tour.  What is the coverage currently on the road around the rim?
Correct vogtski, and thanks for noting that. Traffic was restricted to those searching for a missing snowshoer. I posted about the snow conditions we saw, because the NRCS/NWAC weather station had been down for a week and TAY is the next best place to get information on what's happening with the snowpack.
author=Charlie Hagedorn link=topic=33346.msg138235#msg138235 date=1420586742]
Using wrong-size chains to pass a checkpoint is lame and won't encourage NPS to open the road.


This implies that everyone carrying correct size chains does encourage NPS to open the road, which obviously isn't true.  Just don't drive like a moron if you carry wrong-sized chains.  Considering how finicky they are about opening the...
Speaking of chains, saw the following conversation in the Paradise Parking lot on Saturday:

Helpful guy watching a tourist spin their tires pointlessly in the paradise parking lot: "Is your car rear wheel drive?"
Hapless tourist: "Um..yes."
Helpful guy: "You might benefit by moving the tire chains to your rear tires then."
Hapless tourist: "Oh."

Skid several laps on the happy side of Mazama ridge. No wind, occasional su...
author=dfhkvs link=topic=33346.msg138243#msg138243 date=1420598236]
With dedicated snow tires, do you need chains? I know a lot of checkpoints are either / or (chains OR dedicated snow tires).


"All vehicles are required to carry tire chains when traveling in the park during the winter season (November 1 - May 1). This requirement applies to all vehicles (including four-wheel-drive), regardless of tire type or weather c...
I think this is the best report this season!  Nice work.
With dedicated snow tires, do you need chains? I know a lot of checkpoints are either / or (chains OR dedicated snow tires).
What a great way to celebrate the new year and  keep the streak alive!
We skied tatoosh on saturday.  There were some pockets of fresh hidden in the trees, but everything open was crusty.  One of my bindings decided not to return to ski mode, so I had an interesting descent and we called it an early day.  The view from the saddle between pinnacle and castle made the trip worth it, with adams, st helens and hood all visible with a yellow backdrop.

Let's hope for some more snow soon.
PSA (paradise subie advice): Les Schwab sells nice chains which, if unused, are returnable in April. Also, Goodwill/Value Village frequently have chains for cheap; just make certain they fit your tires. Using wrong-size chains to pass a checkpoint is lame and won't encourage NPS to open the road.
That is a lot of headlamp time! But the first pic is awesome. Nice run!
Thanks for the kind words. Here is a little video
well that looks like fun

way to giv'er with a long day in the early season
Good effort and photos.  Nice to see alecapone in action; I thought he had dropped off the edge of the map.    ;D
That's awesome, glad you got it!  Looks like you guys took a much more direct route than us.  Wish we could've done that, but the rapid warming had us avoiding the south faces for most of the day.

That East face of Green looks great.  Such amazing views too!
rad!  i agree with kyle--the sunset photo of scott is one of my favorite that i've seen all season.

i think it was a good call not to join you guys as even the "all pow no shwack" day that i did instead caused me a bit of ankle pain... but i'm still feeling better each day and expecting that i'll be back to the alder thicket hikes in no time.
I think Yeti may be referring to this Twitter posting from 12-29?
https://twitter.com/MountRainierNPS/status/549582168654372864

I just assumed the OP was part of the SAR...
author=CascadeYeti link=topic=33189.msg138117#msg138117 date=1420259629]
I was told the road from Longmire to Paradise would not open that day so I turned around and went home  :'(


Follow the mount rainier national park Twitter feed. They update it almost daily in the early hours of the morning to notify visitors on expected time the gate will (or will not) be opening.
Thanks for the reminder to get after this gem- we headed out there on the 3rd. I had some out of towners here for some skiing and we gave this a go. Climbed up to the high point at 5988... went past your uptrack and set our own marginal one up what would be scary terrain in unstable times...eventually booting to ridge top. Sweet run down into the basin below Green.... minor scrapes on crust below, but ~4-8" of light pow skiied very well.

Climbed up to the LO and skiied a run on t...