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Cascade Powder Skis

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17 years 4 months ago #183206 by coyote
Replied by coyote on topic Re: Cascade Powder Skis
powder ski? they have to be over 100. skis over 100 can still ski perfectly well in the firmer snow and are great in the pow. the difference matters.
less sidecut is better, and as a matter of opinion, i like my skis a little on the stiff side.
reverse camber? rockered tip? haven't tried them, but people really rave. i'm not so sure that it's only a fad anymore.
another interesting note about wider skis is that although they are heavier, they tour better than skinnier skis. i think that the weight difference is a wash to the efficiency, if not a benefit.
to summarize my opinion, if you go wider for a 'powder ski' you will be happier than if you don't. remember, you are building a quiver.

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17 years 4 months ago #183207 by andyski
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so I have coombas with dynafit and I'm thinking of something lighter but not give up too much in powder performance. Ideas of the janak?
Or thinking of even lighter like the kailas but they're quite a bit skinnier

You're not going to lose much, if any weight going from a
Daddy to a Coomba.

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17 years 4 months ago #183208 by brownc9
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true true. But I love buying skis... Gotta keep the market stimulated right? Maybe look for kailas in the spring. Till then, get strong.

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17 years 4 months ago - 17 years 4 months ago #183212 by burns-all-year
Replied by burns-all-year on topic Re: Cascade Powder Skis
There's powder in the Cascades?  Been skiing there 40 years and that's a new one on me! 
K2 Shuksans are versatile, reasonably priced and fairly light.  Those large fat skis are fairly limited in the range of conditions they will handle comfortably, and, really, does anyone really need training wheels to get down the hill on a Cascade "powder" day?
Personally, I wouldn't give Black Diamond a cent of my money...over-priced, over-engineered, poor quality CRAP.
-Burns

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17 years 4 months ago - 17 years 4 months ago #183216 by Scotsman
Replied by Scotsman on topic Re: Cascade Powder Skis

There's powder in the Cascades?  Been skiing there 40 years and that's a new one on me! 
K2 Shuksans are versatile, reasonably priced and fairly light.  Those large fat skis are fairly limited in the range of conditions they will handle comfortably, and, really, does anyone really need training wheels to get down the hill on a Cascade "powder" day?
Personally, I wouldn't give Black Diamond a cent of my money...over-priced, over-engineered, poor quality CRAP.
-Burns


As has been said many times, opinions are like assholes and everybody's got one. SO here's mine.

I have only been skiing here for 5 years and have skied many powder days( by my definition) in the cascades especially in the last two years so I don't know where you have been skiing. Now you may argue that our snow can't be classified as powder as it does not compare with Utah blower etc. So please be kind enough to educate me as to your definition of powder! Moisture content by volume? or what.
My definition of powder is when it flows as you ski and gives you leg, waist or face shots depending on it's depth.

As to latest, super fat skis with limited sidecut, early riser tip and rocker, I am always amazed by how many people I meet and ski with who have strong opinions about their versatility and performance. In 97/100 cases when I have asked the person promoting such a strong view if they have ever tried them out, the reply is no, it's what I read. Having been a convert to these new skis and skied many of them I can tell you that from my experience their versatility and performance is much wider over a whole range of snow conditions than you would be led to believe from the publications. Now if you want super carving performance on corduroy groomers, they are not the ski for you. For the somewhat varied conditions we get here from powder to sludge, to corn to windpack, some of us would argue that the modern superfat ski is actually very versatile.

As to your snide comments regarding "training wheels", it is what I have come to expect from people stuck in the past,as tolerance and acceptance of people who do things differently or use different equipment seems to be on the wane. When I take my "super fat, rockered skis" to Crystal I get a mixture of polite questions and some heckling. The ratio is about 50/50 and I have become used to it.

Just what we need is another person like you emphasising the difference between skiers and inferring some superiority based upon the narrowness of his/her skis rather than common joy that binds all of us together, telemarkers, splitboarders, narrow ski skiers and fat rockered skiers; namely the love of glisse.

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17 years 4 months ago - 17 years 4 months ago #183217 by brownc9
Replied by brownc9 on topic Re: Cascade Powder Skis
Scotsman, i'm with you man, this guy is spraying like it's TGR, and he would be heckled to submission if it was. He's entitled to his opinion even if it is the most closed minded crotchety old timer opinion out there. He obviously is bitter because he's A)not from here and so he doesn't appreciate our state, or B) never skied fat skis and so he's been bogged down with some old Tua M3's that are like 65 underfoot and has a hell of time when it snows two feet over night and everyone else is ripping the hell out of the slope hooting and hollaring because they cant see through the faceshots. If you think that fat skis are training wheels you must be from minnesota and are used to skiing on ice. And to that I say "Good day sir!" I don't need you. And to that I'm keeping my 102 underfoot and I'm going to keep collecting my turns all year on my training wheels and I'll ski higher and faster just to spite you.

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