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Park Ranger shot this AM at MRNP Nisqually entranc
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14 years 1 month ago #203257
by normanclyde
I had a very interesting conversation about 3 years ago with a female MRNP ranger (not Margaret) who helped me pull my car out of a snowbank on the road up to Paradise. She ran my license and, once she saw it was clean, gave me permission to sit in the front seat of her Explorer. "Please don't touch the weapon," she said politely as I slid in next to the M-16 propped between us. As we drove uphill from Longmire, she explained that MRNP rangers have what is known as Exclusive Jurisdiction within the park. This means that within the boundary, they are the sole law enforcement authority. Whatever trouble occurs inside the park, they have to handle it, and backup is a long way away.
She described one episode where Pierce County law enforcement called to advise they were chasing someone on the FBI's ten most wanted list, known to be armed and dangerous, up a forest road on the park's southern boundary. She and her colleagues had to scramble to set up a roadblock and arm themselves for his arrival. He ended up being apprehended before getting to her, but let me tell you, after hearing that story I have no problem with MRNP rangers bearing arms.
Most outdoorspeople I know have a healthy respect for the rangers and the work they do, but in my opinion, the public has too little appreciation of a ranger's responsibilities. It's a tough balancing act, having to shift from support and education to hardcore enforcement. Before Ms. Anderson was called to set up her roadblock, she was running the sledding hill.
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I always was against armed Rangers and in this case it would have not made a lick of difference, but it has me thinking.
I had a very interesting conversation about 3 years ago with a female MRNP ranger (not Margaret) who helped me pull my car out of a snowbank on the road up to Paradise. She ran my license and, once she saw it was clean, gave me permission to sit in the front seat of her Explorer. "Please don't touch the weapon," she said politely as I slid in next to the M-16 propped between us. As we drove uphill from Longmire, she explained that MRNP rangers have what is known as Exclusive Jurisdiction within the park. This means that within the boundary, they are the sole law enforcement authority. Whatever trouble occurs inside the park, they have to handle it, and backup is a long way away.
She described one episode where Pierce County law enforcement called to advise they were chasing someone on the FBI's ten most wanted list, known to be armed and dangerous, up a forest road on the park's southern boundary. She and her colleagues had to scramble to set up a roadblock and arm themselves for his arrival. He ended up being apprehended before getting to her, but let me tell you, after hearing that story I have no problem with MRNP rangers bearing arms.
Most outdoorspeople I know have a healthy respect for the rangers and the work they do, but in my opinion, the public has too little appreciation of a ranger's responsibilities. It's a tough balancing act, having to shift from support and education to hardcore enforcement. Before Ms. Anderson was called to set up her roadblock, she was running the sledding hill.
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14 years 1 month ago #203258
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From Tacoma News Tribune
"Searchers found his body in Paradise Creek above Narada Falls. He was wearing a T-shirt, jeans and one shoe. Pierce County Sheriff spokesman Ed Troyer said officials believe Barnes died of exposure."
"Searchers found his body in Paradise Creek above Narada Falls. He was wearing a T-shirt, jeans and one shoe. Pierce County Sheriff spokesman Ed Troyer said officials believe Barnes died of exposure."
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14 years 1 month ago #203260
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My sympathy to the victims friends and family. Such a tragic event to swallow being so sensless, my heart goes out to the victims family.
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14 years 1 month ago #203261
by Gary Vogt
It may be, as Robie & others have suggested, that the shooter had Visitor Center mayhem on his 'mind'. I shudder to think of him reaching the snowplay area...
On the other hand, he apparently had no boots or winter clothing. Is it possible he was just on the lam east, chose White Pass as the remotest crossing and was tricked into a dead-end by his GPS not showing the winter closure?
Please pardon the luddite question; just trying to make a little sense of this senseless tradgedy.
I hope Margaret's family, friends, and co-workers come to find some small comfort in the knowledge she died as she lived, trying to assist and protect others.
Replied by Gary Vogt on topic Re: Park Ranger shot this AM at MRNP Nisqually entranc
What a terrible thing.
I wonder what someone like that goes into a national park for?
It may be, as Robie & others have suggested, that the shooter had Visitor Center mayhem on his 'mind'. I shudder to think of him reaching the snowplay area...
On the other hand, he apparently had no boots or winter clothing. Is it possible he was just on the lam east, chose White Pass as the remotest crossing and was tricked into a dead-end by his GPS not showing the winter closure?
Please pardon the luddite question; just trying to make a little sense of this senseless tradgedy.
I hope Margaret's family, friends, and co-workers come to find some small comfort in the knowledge she died as she lived, trying to assist and protect others.
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14 years 1 month ago #203265
by Randito
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FWIW: The NPS is holding a meeting tommorrow for all park employees and volunteers -- if you've ever volunteered at the park -- contact me for details.
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14 years 1 month ago #203266
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Thoughts and prayers to all involved. I am saddened to see the life of a positive contributor to society cut so short.
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