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15 years 1 month ago #196759
by Scotsman
Replied by Scotsman on topic Re: WenatcheeOutdoors article: Non-Motorized Advocacy
Good point.
I would personally agree with an increase in snowmobile users fees assuming no further restrictions on access.
Nice photo, I'm kinda digging her post apocalypse look.
I would personally agree with an increase in snowmobile users fees assuming no further restrictions on access.
Nice photo, I'm kinda digging her post apocalypse look.
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15 years 1 month ago #196032
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15 years 1 month ago #196857
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Replied by mtneer ordinaire on topic Re: WenatcheeOutdoors article: Non-Motorized Advocacy
Thanks for the update. I've emailed Rebecca supporting the three proposals.
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15 years 1 month ago - 15 years 1 month ago #196858
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Thank you very much! We appreciate your support and hope that others would read the article to see what has been done to secure some new non-motorized areas for skiers, snowshoers, and winter campers.
For anyone else interested the article contains links to the three professionally-made maps, as well as photos of some of the areas, and information about the initiative. The article is based on the Proposal that was presented to the relevant USFS Districts, to the Forest Supervisor and her staff, and also has been presented to State and Federal elected officials.
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Replied by WMC on topic Re: WenatcheeOutdoors article: Non-Motorized Advocacy
Thanks for the update. I've emailed Rebecca supporting the three proposals.
Thank you very much! We appreciate your support and hope that others would read the article to see what has been done to secure some new non-motorized areas for skiers, snowshoers, and winter campers.
For anyone else interested the article contains links to the three professionally-made maps, as well as photos of some of the areas, and information about the initiative. The article is based on the Proposal that was presented to the relevant USFS Districts, to the Forest Supervisor and her staff, and also has been presented to State and Federal elected officials.
Thank you!
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15 years 3 weeks ago #197040
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Replied by GUAVA on topic Re: WenatcheeOutdoors article: Non-Motorized Advocacy
There is a need for equal and shared access to these areas that belong to ALL USERS not just the snowmobilers. I am sorry to all you sledders but the time has come for you to share the forest with the majority (non-motorized users). There is plenty of available land for both user groups and they must be seperate but equal. If I was a snowmobiler I would come to the table now and reach an agreement with the BC skiers because federal regulation is coming soon for the winter landscape and it will not be favorable to motorized use.
It is only a matter of time before the overall general public, from New York to California, speaks out in a very large, collective voice to the public land managers and asks for change. It will come to pass and soon.
p.s. It would behoove you greatly to stay out of the Alpine Lakes Wilderness area before you go and plead your case to the Forest Service about YOUR need to protect your rights when you clearly disregard those rules governing snowmobiles in non-motorized areas.
It is only a matter of time before the overall general public, from New York to California, speaks out in a very large, collective voice to the public land managers and asks for change. It will come to pass and soon.
p.s. It would behoove you greatly to stay out of the Alpine Lakes Wilderness area before you go and plead your case to the Forest Service about YOUR need to protect your rights when you clearly disregard those rules governing snowmobiles in non-motorized areas.
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15 years 3 weeks ago - 15 years 3 weeks ago #197039
by gravitymk
Replied by gravitymk on topic Re: WenatcheeOutdoors article: Non-Motorized Advocacy
Slippery slope here folks.
This starts with one request then leads to others.
Limiting access to one group to suit your personal agenda, when will you really be happy?
The real answer is, you won't be, because this isn't about sharing it's about excluding.
I am a skier, I own sleds as a means to ski BC terrain not easily accessed from trail heads.
My sleds hardly get off the trailer, as a mater of fact they haven't been used this season yet.
When they do they will be used as BC skiing access tools. I would fight this even if I sold them tomorrow, because your premise is flawed and there is already land set aside that meets your requirements, it's called Wilderness (not to mention the National Parks).
BTW, don't bother bringing up the "some sledders violate wilderness" argument.
While it's true, the majority of sledders despise these actions and the people responsible.
These self entitled morons that make anyone with a sled look bad, are assholes, and many (snowmobilers) would go out of their way to turn these individuals in. I encourage anyone who is in Wilderness to carry a camera and take pictures that can be used as evidence in the evnet that you see someone violating a Wilderness boundary with a sled. All that said, assholes (and genuinely nice people) come in all shapes and sizes and I've met as many on skis as I have on a sled.
This starts with one request then leads to others.
Limiting access to one group to suit your personal agenda, when will you really be happy?
The real answer is, you won't be, because this isn't about sharing it's about excluding.
I am a skier, I own sleds as a means to ski BC terrain not easily accessed from trail heads.
My sleds hardly get off the trailer, as a mater of fact they haven't been used this season yet.
When they do they will be used as BC skiing access tools. I would fight this even if I sold them tomorrow, because your premise is flawed and there is already land set aside that meets your requirements, it's called Wilderness (not to mention the National Parks).
BTW, don't bother bringing up the "some sledders violate wilderness" argument.
While it's true, the majority of sledders despise these actions and the people responsible.
These self entitled morons that make anyone with a sled look bad, are assholes, and many (snowmobilers) would go out of their way to turn these individuals in. I encourage anyone who is in Wilderness to carry a camera and take pictures that can be used as evidence in the evnet that you see someone violating a Wilderness boundary with a sled. All that said, assholes (and genuinely nice people) come in all shapes and sizes and I've met as many on skis as I have on a sled.
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