WMC Update 2012

The name calling is unacceptable.

many of which are as yet untouched by snowmobiles.

hahahahaha......Why else you would you promote closure in all areas of non-wilderness forest?

Answer my question.

40%+ wilderness and non-motorized is untouched.....100% available to skiers/non-motorized....

lmao
namecalling

Do you really want to share the slope with morons r

uh .....that quote would be from cookie monster

if you want to trade analogies i believe my point of view has a limitless number!!

from mr rational micah

So if someone showed up at your fishing hole and installed a bunch of nets and started using dynamite to harvest fish you would just shrug your shoulders and say, 'oh well, it was good while it lasted.' and move on?

if it was legal.....as that is what happens with more population..more people getting out...hittin favorite spots. then that is just the way it goes. stop whining. it happens to us REGULAR folks everyday.

i just have to move on... kinda like gettin up at 4 am, hittin the road, workin my ass off to get to a favorite pow area ..only to see it ripped up by someone else that got there first. it sucks but it is the way it goes and i move on.

all you skiers know that it is getting harder and harder to always have first tracks.....same for us snowmobilers
especially when we have a continuosly smaller and smaller are to ride with more riders in this smaller area.

thanks
hurley

So if the proposal as it sits and won't be discussed for change is submitted, what position does that put the less staunch of your group? do you generate a new proposal or support the only one offered? Or not support it? Is the WMC getting to speak for all of you?

Those are excellent questions.

.....same for us snowmobilers
especially when we have a continuosly smaller and smaller are to ride with more riders in this smaller area.

thanks
hurley

It's already been established that there have been no major closures to snowmobiles since the early 1980s and that snowmobile use has remained constant for at least a decade, this according to the number of registered snowmobiles. I think with the upcoming forest plan revision we will see the legality of off route snowmobile travel in most areas outside wilderness questioned regardless of WMC's proposal. I think you will see areas closed to motorized use in winter that are currently used by snowmobiles and with input from non-motorized and motorized users areas identified as suitable for motorized off route travel. This is my opinion of what will happen given the current user conflicts and past history of FS policy on off trail/route motorized use. WMC's efforts are really an avenue to get people thinking about how they want the forest to be used for recreation in winter, if it gets people fired up on both sides I think that's a good thing and will help when the FS ask for public input during the upcoming Forest Plan Revision.

Quote from: yammadog on Yesterday at 12:19:41 PM
So if the proposal as it sits and won't be discussed for change is submitted, what position does that put the less staunch of your group? do you generate a new proposal or support the only one offered? Or not support it? Is the WMC getting to speak for all of you?
Those are excellent questions.

I imagine that the Supervisor will take the proposal under consideration and with information and input that she currently has access to will make a decision about non-motorized use for the upcoming winter or she could ignore it. While I support the efforts of WMC, the Supervisor will make the decision ultimately with consideration of all winter forest users. I really don't see why sledders are so upset about a group of citizens using a valid method to reach a goal for their use of public lands, isn't this what WSSA and other motorized lobbying groups do all the time?