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Thanks for the confirmation of my fears - and that 50 miles on the bike in the sun was a good option,
author=the_flying_v link=topic=34840.msg143231#msg143231 date=1448164213]
All the young, hard charging White Passers stay in the back bowls and don't post about it. That way all the suits stay at Crystal; it's better that way.
-SM
ouch. I appreciate the post filbo. I wonder the same thing all the time. "Why am I the only one here?" Keep it up!
All the young, hard charging White Passers stay in the back bowls and don't post about it. That way all the suits stay at Crystal; it's better that way.
-SM
-SM
author=filbo link=topic=34840.msg143217#msg143217 date=1448077871]
Where are all the young hard charging snow fanatics?
Hey Phil, sounds like you're the hard charger for WP. Here's hoping for Good season!
Another vote to rotate the chart 90deg clockwise. Life makes a lot more sense to most people with time moving left to right on the y-axis
I think i might have gotten highest on the road on Saturday, but it came at the cost of having to pull the guy out in front of me a few times while people parked lower down passed us skinning up the road.
Saturday was rad, but definitely a crowd up there. Everything felt really stable then, but with 2 weaker layers, I don't doubt everything moved with higher temps.
Talked to the dude who's truck it is on when we were driving down. They were trying to go get it at 5:30pm in...
Saturday was rad, but definitely a crowd up there. Everything felt really stable then, but with 2 weaker layers, I don't doubt everything moved with higher temps.
Talked to the dude who's truck it is on when we were driving down. They were trying to go get it at 5:30pm in...
Thanks Lee for the timely update, I was just wondering whether it would be worth going back this weekend, sunny forecast and all. Maybe, maybe not.
Bummer about the truck, the cost of pulling it out might be more than the truck is worth; I just hope nobody got hurt.
Bummer about the truck, the cost of pulling it out might be more than the truck is worth; I just hope nobody got hurt.
Took a lap up there yesterday, Nov 18th. The highest any vehicle made it was the big curve @ 3450' that left them with a ~2mi walk to TH. Looks like someone's T100 is up there for the winter about 1mi from TH unless they can work some magic before the next storm.
Could skin/ski most of trail still but rain definitely washed some of it away down low. Stout rain crust with a skiff of new snow up to 6000' and probably higher. Best skiing in E'ly low angle concave fea...
Could skin/ski most of trail still but rain definitely washed some of it away down low. Stout rain crust with a skiff of new snow up to 6000' and probably higher. Best skiing in E'ly low angle concave fea...
author=ErikT link=topic=34792.msg143138#msg143138 date=1447800005]
nerdery; dig it. where did you make the chart? matlab?
Gnuplot ( http://gnuplot.info )
@Leichty - thanks!
Great pictures and that chart is sweet!
More awesomeness. Thanks for sharing, guys!
author=Sidecut link=topic=34767.msg143073#msg143073 date=1447644973]
Nice work! We're thinking of heading to Winthrop next weekend - are there any relatively easy to access areas for backcountry turns if the 20 stays closed?
WSDOT often plows up to Delancy Ridge in the early season. You can tour right up from the snowpark if that's the case. You could also bring beer and a tow rope and barter for a tow up to...
nerdery; dig it. where did you make the chart? matlab?
That looks really cool, Charlie. Here are my suggestions:
1) use a different color palette;
2) put F scale on the top (set x2tics ...) (could put m on the right, too);
3) animated .gif that adds the points one-by-one.
:-)
1) use a different color palette;
2) put F scale on the top (set x2tics ...) (could put m on the right, too);
3) animated .gif that adds the points one-by-one.
:-)
The data come from a Garmin Fenix and an associated wireless temperature sensor on the back of my pack. It's affected by sun (so is snow!), but on cloudy days like Sunday, it's a consistent measure of air temperature.
Units-wise, I've become convinced that celsius is the right unit system for anything involving water. Having zero at the most important phase transition is a good idea...
Units-wise, I've become convinced that celsius is the right unit system for anything involving water. Having zero at the most important phase transition is a good idea...
Charlie, the chart is fun. Where does the data come from? A personal weather monitor? It looks cool, and I like the Celsius. Would be even better if you go fully metric ;)
Personally, as a dumb American, prefer Fahrenheit . I don't really like military time, but if you are going to use it, would be better written with 4 digits, ie. 1430 or 1200.
I come for the photos Silas ;) lets see em
Thanks for all your thoughts!
Photomatt: The horizontal colorbar is a great idea; I think left-to-right, too. Automated arrows sound like an interesting challenge.
Brent: The cool thing about plotting with height is that you can see the 'lapse rate' , the decrease of temperature with height. Imagine what the plot might look like if I'd climbed out of an inversion.... I'll see if there's a clean way to roll both approaches into one plot.
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Photomatt: The horizontal colorbar is a great idea; I think left-to-right, too. Automated arrows sound like an interesting challenge.
Brent: The cool thing about plotting with height is that you can see the 'lapse rate' , the decrease of temperature with height. Imagine what the plot might look like if I'd climbed out of an inversion.... I'll see if there's a clean way to roll both approaches into one plot.
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looks like a psychedelic dinosaur with a gopro. Cool!
Way to say it, John. Today was my first day and I couldn't possibly hit the fine point any better. A long lost friend indeed. And the sunrise over Shuksan and the North Fork peaks told me "we never went away."
I think the amount of people this weekend at the area is only a prelude to what will happen on powder days this year. With Mt. Baker ski area opening this Thursday, I can bet first tracks on the main runs will be finished within 15 minutes! To those riding the lifts on a big powdery day, enjoy your powder minutes!
I like the idea of combining time, altitude and temperature. I suppose in some way they are necessarily confounded. To me, it would be easier to read intuitively if time was on the x-axis and temperature and altitude were plotted as independent traces on the y axis.
Thanks for the photos and TR! Cool plot, but it did take me a few seconds to figure out how to interpret it. A few suggestions to make it more intuitive:
- rotate the colorbar horizontally. I think of time running horizontally instead of vertically.
- re-label the times as hours. E.g. "1 pm" instead 13, etc.
- you could automatically add some arrow/text annotations, e.g. "car" at the beginning/end, "top" at the high...
Cooooooooooooool Photos!
You captured the essence of autumn transitioning into winter. Sounds like a great solo meditation.
I like the beta infographics too!
You captured the essence of autumn transitioning into winter. Sounds like a great solo meditation.
I like the beta infographics too!
100+ cars in November before the ski area is open? That's nuts.
Welcome to the Wash-atch. ::)
Welcome to the Wash-atch. ::)
Thanks for your post. Climate change is THE BIGGEST DEAL & challenge for our planet! We need to tell our elected reps to Vote for the Environment or we will vote for some one else. Sorry for the thread jack.....
Awesome, thanks for the update!
We parked 1.8 miles down the road from the trailhead, making it farther than any other cars (and helping 2 folks who got stuck). There is ~ 2' on the road and, needless to say, we could skin and ski the whole trail :-)
author=avajane link=topic=34791.msg143090#msg143090 date=1447706955]
The backcountry will be more in the backcountry.
:D Not bad at all!
Thanks kamtron! How was the road? Can you skin form the parking lot yet?
Yesterday was awesome up there. There were many groups getting laps in the bowl. No noticeable instabilities, although there was evidence that steep slopes to the S end of the first bowl slid in the storm. It's deep out there---felt like 2.5'. Faceshots readily available.
The backcountry will be more in the backcountry.
I noticed a lot of people hiking in and skiing their regular downhill setup over the last 10 days. Hopefuly the ski area's Thursday opening will take care of their needs, but either way the backcountry will get crowded and some places will get the Yogi Berra status: No one goes there nowadays, it’s too crowded.
Thanks for the report! Three cheers for optimism (and safety).
Setting a skin track was like re-uniting with a long lost friend Beautifully said! There is a beginning of poem hiding in there.
Setting a skin track was like re-uniting with a long lost friend Beautifully said! There is a beginning of poem hiding in there.
CCW makes sense for cooling during a climb & descent or warming during a descent then climb. CW for warming during the climb & descent, or warming during an ascent then descent.
author=bwalt822 link=topic=34792.msg143080#msg143080 date=1447691741]
I like the plot, its easy to read once you figure out to go counter clockwise.
Yes, that's it! I think the plot is excellent, most informative counterclockwise colour coding, bingo.
Nice landscape pic of the pass too.
I like the plot, its easy to read once you figure out to go counter clockwise.
I'm experimenting with adding air temperature measurements as a function of time and elevation to some of my TRs. Is this format comprehensible/useful?
Nice work! We're thinking of heading to Winthrop next weekend - are there any relatively easy to access areas for backcountry turns if the 20 stays closed?
Every big cat has to get out of the limelight and wreck som p-tex now and then!!
I think it would be pointless to start another thread about the same area on the same day. I hope you don't mind me posting what the conditions were from my point of view. The snow was heavier than I expected, but coverage made up for it. I think there were more people up here today than there would be on an opening day at Baker back in the 80s!!
https://youtu.be/cdPUrJBkzFA
https://youtu.be/cdPUrJBkzFA
Nice work. Hope you didn't hit any landmines! You must do recon when the slope is bare.
Nice photos, and Marky mark took time off from Hollywood to get a core shot?!