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Adding my own bit of beta from Saturday as well.

+1 on the cornice info. The center has dropped and doesn't look as imposing as previous years, but after seeing the top of the cornice and its very tenuous attachment to anything solid, I'd be wary of spending any time underneath it. Bootpack to far climbers left is in good shape. Still possible to go straight up onto rock at the top of the bootpack and thus avoid moats or standing on the cornice. We were greeted by a mountai...
The more direct route from Copper basin back to the hairpin had a nicely skiable entrance, with optional cornice huck. Kangaroo chutes are holding up with continuous skinning from the car, but some of the intermediate rock bands are starting to melt out. Get it while you can.
We passed on the chutes, uncertain if the SW wind had kept it too cool and firm. Bummer!

We skied Mazama Glacier instead, and had hero corn from 10k to 7400', then dirty corn to 6,800, before starting the traverse back to Cold Springs. No tracks on that part of the mountain and fun to explore a new area. Only 1 crevasse to negotiate ~9400' that spans most of the glacier, but easily passed skier's left. Lots of snomo tracks up there despite multiple signs around 6800...
Thanks for posting the heads up Eric. We yelled at quite a few people that were following his tracks up to the drop. I hope nobody follows them over the next few days.
His two skis are still down there. One of them can be recovered, but the second one is waaaay down there. I don't have the expertise to even attempt to get them. The guys that pulled him out said that a 60m rope was barely enough for rescue. If anybody with a lot of experience is up for an adventure, I know Ron would lo...
can chime on the chutes—they are fine. I hit them sat and i am not a strong (or good) skier. not been in that late (2:30) but the high overcast and being terribly out of shape colluded for the late descent. Anyways top bit (300ft?) had some was-rime or something that is metamorphosing into snow or something, but it wasn't chattery or icy, just not consistent corn....then there was a nice 700ft of great corn, before it turned into deep slush and then into slough management/wet slide city..wh...
We attempted the Rainy Lake and Lake Ann loop June 4. When we got to Rainy Lake we were surprised to see it was a mix of slush and water. After looking around we were able to ski around the SE side of the lake but had to walk about half way up the gully at the SW corner of the lake before being able to start skiing. This all took time and we ended up shortening our plans by climbing west up to the ridge above Lake Ann and skiing down to Lake Ann by the same route as Jason4's party.
thank you for your report Dan.  it is very good to "see" you here. 
great line!

Oyvind
Great TR! GP is a type 2 gem ;)
author=water link=topic=38569.msg156143#msg156143 date=1496439148]
anyone willing to relay the beta for the direct exit to morrison ck CG? I have always traversed back to the Crescent "glacier" area and had a nice little run from there down to cold springs.

topo and looking at creek, just veer east at bottom of chutes like normal but instead of traverse keep dropping and make sure to stay on west side of the creek? anything more?
Welcome back Dan! Great to see that you are back at it!!
Looks awesome.  Beautiful lines indeed.
author=water link=topic=38569.msg156143#msg156143 date=1496439148]
anyone willing to relay the beta for the direct exit to morrison ck CG? ... topo and looking at creek, just veer east at bottom of chutes like normal but instead of traverse keep dropping and make sure to stay on west side of the creek? anything more?

thanks


Hey Water: GPS. ;)
Seriously I've been told that when we did 7 miles of road just to g...
anyone willing to relay the beta for the direct exit to morrison ck CG? I have always traversed back to the Crescent "glacier" area and had a nice little run from there down to cold springs.

topo and looking at creek, just veer east at bottom of chutes like normal but instead of traverse keep dropping and make sure to stay on west side of the creek? anything more?

thanks
Thanks K - haven't been up there but looks like a nice option to the hoards at the BDT
Thanks for the great pictures, you have inspired me to work on my night sky shots.
thanks for the bootpack :)  we were a little disappointed when we saw that the fresh slide debris had likely wiped out the previous one... and then your crew swooped in and stomped in a new set of footsteps to use.

Cool line!

author=tabski link=topic=38570.msg156099#msg156099 date=1496200650]
Heck yeah Dan, nice one. That upper berschrund feature is looking lots different than in past years.

Does anyone else feel like bergschrunds, cracks and moats are very large this spring despite a good snow year?


The 'schrud on Cowlitz Headwall on Rainier is yuuuuge and goes wall to wall already this year. I've skied tha...

Well done. It's freaking gorgeous out there.


Thanks, for sure!


I've always thought a wintertime traverse (when coverage is good down into the creek/river valleys in the range) would be a pretty cool Wallowas trip. Pretty  open travel for the most part.


Me too - if you could sign up for a couple of the yurts (maybe Norway and McCully) with...
A group of 7 of us stayed in the McCully yurts last winter and had a very nice 4 days of skiing.  There is plenty of terrain out there, and as our guide told us "the snow is always good snow in McCully." A more accurate statement would be, you can always find good snow somewhere in McCully.
Looks like fun! I was in the group of 6 ahead of you by maybe 45 min on the Wy'east on Sunday morning. Conditions were great on Wy'east and Superbowl, and not bad all the way to the Meadows base by the time we got there, around 9:30 am. I think you may have met Randy climbing somewhere en route the previous day, he seemed to know you were circumnavigating. The Timberline buffet is a great cap to any big Hood trip!
author=kamtron link=topic=38570.msg156104#msg156104 date=1496250479]
Do you think this is an effect of greater snowpack creep, or that the bridges over such obstacles fall apart in the first warmup?


Probably a combination of both, I'd guess.

Also, I think thinning of the glaciers may be a factor. In the past, with thicker glaciers, the seasonal snow around transition zones (moats and schrunds) was better supported...
I've always thought a wintertime traverse (when coverage is good down into the creek/river valleys in the range) would be a pretty cool Wallowas trip. Pretty  open travel for the most part.
Lots of goat tracks, but there may have been some wolverine mixed in there too.
Love that first photo, full motion in stillness. Sounds like a great adventure!

Think we met you up on Adams last June, the bike crew.
Well done. It's freaking gorgeous out there.
Thanks for the multi media trip report! Great video and pictures. Those packs looked like carrying a one armed gorilla, the pie may have eased the pain but I doubt it! Refreshed great memories.
Hey Garrett,

Thanks for the report.  Nice work.  I love that area!

Perchance, you didn't see any wolverine tracks, did you?

-Dave
DAN IS BACK!! 

So good, as always.  Thanks for sharing the adventure!
I think she'd jump at the chance if they let her take one of those for a walk.

I'm pretty impressed with the images she got.  The Ricoh camera she had might have been a 'Theta S' ?
author=Charlie Hagedorn link=topic=38564.msg156112#msg156112 date=1496269863]
Susan borrowed a "360 camera" for the trip


For a second when I read that I envisioned her doing the tour with this attached to her back:


Cool pics!
Thanks for the report here Dan. Glad you had a good ski. I'm always impressed by your lines.
Susan borrowed a "360 camera" for the trip, and has uploaded a few images to Google Maps. They're pretty cool, and provide a little more beta.

Ascending Sharkfin: https://goo.gl/jcU83w
Boston/Forbidden Col: https://goo.gl/z1k54Q
Moraine Lake: https://goo.gl/sNidLC
Lower Inspiration Basin: https://goo.gl/uOBiUy


cascadekid - We parked at Morrison creek campground as well. My watch said ~4000 ft give or take. The road was undriveable from there for most (we did see a jeep on the road higher up, but he had driven through ~2ft deep off camber slush and over at least one 12 in diameter fallen tree). We walked probably a half mile uphill before putting on the skis.

Midwest2Northwest - great to meet you up there as well! Yes I believe we did follow your traverse out, thanks for that. Good to know t...
Kthack, nice to meet you guys up there!  We were the group of 3 that you chatted with at the entrance to the chutes! Corn o'clock in the SW Chutes definitely was noon!  We spoke with a ranger on saturday afternoon by our car and he shared some beta with us on a nice exit directly to the Morrison Creek TH from the chutes, the traversing track that we set (that I assume you guys followed) worked ok, but next time we do this in April/May we'll try to take it all the way to Morri...
A friend skied it this past weekend and said they parked at the Morrison creek campground
It's good to see Helmstadter is back in action.  Always inspiring rarely imitated.
i don't know. leuthold was actually plan A for me on that day, but i switched last minute because I thought it would need more time to soften than my window allowed. given what i saw on south and east facing stuff, i'd be surprised if it wasn't in really good shape tho.
author=Lowell_Skoog link=topic=38570.msg156101#msg156101 date=1496208230]
I think this is to be expected when a deep snowpack is warmed rapidly before it has a chance to settle and consolidate.


Do you think this is an effect of greater snowpack creep, or that the bridges over such obstacles fall apart in the first warmup?
author=tabski link=topic=38570.msg156099#msg156099 date=1496200650]
Heck yeah Dan, nice one. That upper berschrund feature is looking lots different than in past years.

Does anyone else feel like bergschrunds, cracks and moats are very large this spring despite a good snow year?


X2. I was hoping to ski the Diller Headwall on M Sister and there were big-ass schrunds under ever possible exit, way bigger than past years.
What altitude was snow line? Or alternately, how many miles did you walk on road before reaching the summer TH?
author=tabski link=topic=38570.msg156099#msg156099 date=1496200650]
Does anyone else feel like bergschrunds, cracks and moats are very large this spring despite a good snow year?


Based on the photos I'm seeing, yeah.

I think this is to be expected when a deep snowpack is warmed rapidly before it has a chance to settle and consolidate.
Heck yeah Dan, nice one. That upper berschrund feature is looking lots different than in past years.

Does anyone else feel like bergschrunds, cracks and moats are very large this spring despite a good snow year?
The blue route is GOld!    including going up Golden gate. I'll have to try the purple route next time.

http://www.turns-all-year.com/skiing_snowboarding/trip_reports/index.php?topic=21052.0
The one time we climbed Boston from Sahale in ~September, getting onto the uppermost reaches of the Boston was easy. I just don't have any insight into how broken-up it might be to wrap around to that saddle from Sharkfin Col. It looks possible from maps/satellite images.

On the other hand, when we were on Sahale two weeks ago, the east side of the Sahale/Boston ridge had some amazing cornices hanging above the Davenport Glacier, which might complicate any escape to the Quien Sab...
author=tabski link=topic=38564.msg156084#msg156084 date=1496180713]
Any opinions out there on reversing Sharkfin col to return to the Boston Basin side, from the Boston Glacier? From the Boston Glacier side I remember seeing a gully potentially easier to ascend just east of the Sharkfin col, leading to ridge and ramps downclimb-able back onto the Quien Sabe... Quite the barrier for sure.


I vaguely remember traversing Sharkfin col...
yeah nice -- and timely -- report Charlie!

like Jeremy, I've also descended to the Boston Gl via the higher col/notch a bit east of the typical Sharkfin rap.  No raps when we skied it three years ago tomorrow.  So, if there's enough snow to ski it, expect that climbing it wouldn't be too bad when carrying the gear one would carry for this traverse.  It was pretty steep, and wove through some minor cracks.  Our ascent from the Q Sabe side was mellow on snow.  I think Jer...