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Ah, Hunta. Many a personal story at this bastion of Eastern Skiing.
I'd a love/hate relationship with Hunter. I always found myself there early season, as indeed, it was the best 1,500 VF closest to the NY Metro and usually open first with top to bottom skiing. Addicts must find a stash somewhere.
One day, after sampling an old CCC style trail adjacent to the ski area, I returned to three chaps sitting on my car. Literally. They had offici...
I'd a love/hate relationship with Hunter. I always found myself there early season, as indeed, it was the best 1,500 VF closest to the NY Metro and usually open first with top to bottom skiing. Addicts must find a stash somewhere.
One day, after sampling an old CCC style trail adjacent to the ski area, I returned to three chaps sitting on my car. Literally. They had offici...
skinned up the alpental side of the valley to source lake....packed ski path very well established on that side of the valley.
Nice pics.
We were up there on Sat. and the little bit of new snow made a big difference, although, like you said it didn't seem to be bonding very well. We got some sluff to run in a steep-ish gulley. Wonder if that little bit of new snow will be a weak layer above the crust with the storm on Monday??
We were up there on Sat. and the little bit of new snow made a big difference, although, like you said it didn't seem to be bonding very well. We got some sluff to run in a steep-ish gulley. Wonder if that little bit of new snow will be a weak layer above the crust with the storm on Monday??
How do you get in there? Do you take the Snow Lake trail, or can you skin/hike up the other side out of the upper Alpental parking lot?
I grew up skiing Deer Run, but occasionally would head over to ski at "Hunta".
If I remember correctly a good day at "Hunta" was making it through the day without getting hit by some guy wearing jeans and a Giants jacket.....Aaahh the good old days.
If I remember correctly a good day at "Hunta" was making it through the day without getting hit by some guy wearing jeans and a Giants jacket.....Aaahh the good old days.
I grew up skiing Hunter Mountain "The Snow Making Capital of the World" as they called it.
Just out of curiosity, what was your bad encounter? And also, did you bc ski around there? My recollection is the forest was too dense and the snowpack too shallow to even consider bc but if I'm wrong I regret never trying it.
Just out of curiosity, what was your bad encounter? And also, did you bc ski around there? My recollection is the forest was too dense and the snowpack too shallow to even consider bc but if I'm wrong I regret never trying it.
Charles, I was beginning to get worried! Glad to see you are continuing to get out there, as usual, no matter what the weather or the conditions. :) By the way, John Morrow and I were just over at Second Ascent checking out their selection of joke tele boots. We did not have quite enough nerve to ask what they had by this name however. :D
Larry
Larry
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I passed 100 yards above the Ski Patrol HQ and from my vantage I could see into the two story Ski Patrol lodge, the Patrollers arriving for the day’s work. As I skied by, I noticed one peering out the window, taking in the morning. I wasn’t sure if he could see me, and my senses tightened, flashing back to a particularly bad encounter returning from the State Forest next to Hunter Mountain,...
That must be a fun ride all the way down the valley - it's a beautiful forest. So do you get into the head of Silver Creek from French Cabin Basin via the trail shown on the map? Silver Creek makes for a nice spring trip, when you can drive to the trailhead and the trail is bare for most of the climb up to the lip.
I thought I would throw in a photo from Dec 2nd.
I use the G3 Cheat Sheet things in the field. They make it easier to rip the skins, to align when folding, and to put them away at home.
Nice work Pete! Very impressive photo's and report. Can not wait to ski the Slot...
Thanks for the pic Larry -- I figured that you probably would have some good above-the-cloud views given your local explorations and the weather patterns of the area!
Here is my first time above the clouds in the cooper river valley - you'll recognise the same peaks and lighting -
http://www.catdaddy.com/people/kevin/images/01_11_Cooper/CooperValleyPan.JPG
Regarding the new subdivisions - it is certianly a shock to see sprawl so close to the wilderness - one can o...
Here is my first time above the clouds in the cooper river valley - you'll recognise the same peaks and lighting -
http://www.catdaddy.com/people/kevin/images/01_11_Cooper/CooperValleyPan.JPG
Regarding the new subdivisions - it is certianly a shock to see sprawl so close to the wilderness - one can o...
NICE, thanks for the link Korup. I did a quick search for just that type of thread recently, to no avail. (Figgrd there had to be one out there like it tho.) ;) Might be posting in that one soon, depending on whether the stuff I was gonna ask/say is in there already...
I drove past the Hex trailhead a week and a half ago (meaning the spot just past where Newport creek crosses route 903). There is development in the area, the "Bell Creek" development lies a little past the Hex trailhead. At this point I don't think that development encroaches on the ski route. The 3 acre "homesites" in "Bell Creek" run about $350,000 -- if these get snapped up -- Hex could become "suburban skiing"
JN- as stated above, it varies a bit. Here's an old thread with some experiences-
http://www.turns-all-year.com/skiing_snowboarding/trip_reports/index.php?topic=3346
http://www.turns-all-year.com/skiing_snowboarding/trip_reports/index.php?topic=3346
Thanks for the tip about the CHEAT SHEETS. So what else do you use to save the glue while out on trips?
Nice report, and welcome to TAY!
I think the husky sounds more useful than the cheatsheets, which are nice for long-term summer storage or warm-in-the-house storage, but not so desireable in the field where they are bulky, a hassle to apply, and blow away in the wind . . .
I think the husky sounds more useful than the cheatsheets, which are nice for long-term summer storage or warm-in-the-house storage, but not so desireable in the field where they are bulky, a hassle to apply, and blow away in the wind . . .
An excellent first report. Thanks. I like the part about your dog pulling your empty board.
Very cool. I've mountain biked up there a few times, and it's one of my favorite rides ever, as far as stuff that's less than a 90 minute drive but still a semi-epic ride. The route is called "Kachess Ridge" but it's kind of a misnomer, cuz you're in the Silver Creek valley for most of it (well most of the downhill part, the uphill is on logging roads).
Anyway, some day I simply gotta take the skis up there...
8)
Anyway, some day I simply gotta take the skis up there...
8)
I cut two slabs off the North Face when Ben and I skied it in March 03. That's a fun ski descent. Way to go get it.
I've skiied the North Face in the Spring with nice skiable corn and stable conditions. The only problems is that the road is all pavement, so tennies are a must and it's still a long day. As I recall it was pretty breezy up there then as well.
Bill
Bill
About the winds - I haven't looked at any data, but most times I've been up there it has been blowing. I wouldn't be surprised if winds were stronger in the sisters because it sticks out further W than most of the Cascades, so N or S winds ripping across the Puget Sound lowlands would slam into it, as opposed to regions closer to the Cascades spine, where friction off other peaks would slow the winds down. On the other hand, there wouldn't be strong gap flows in t...
Nice trip! Must have been a long day...
Are the winds there usually stronger than other places?
Are the winds there usually stronger than other places?
Thanks, Larry. I'll PM John in case he doesn't spot this posting. I was bummed enough to see one of my favorite old growth glades on Hex turn to slash pile in the late '90s (though admittedly the skiers right of that slope is still pretty fun, though uglier)...
Oh well, I guess we were lucky that the owners didn't decide to do more sooner up there.
Oh well, I guess we were lucky that the owners didn't decide to do more sooner up there.
JN1010-- welcome aboard.
Hyak is closed M - F so as long as you don't get in the way of the Nordic center groomers, which operate out of the base, there is no one to give you the stink eye. Your own private resort w/o the crowds midweek. Hyak usually doesn't open until Christmas so you might get Sat and Sunday runs as well until it opens for the season.
When the resorts are open, it is generally frowned upon to be moving uphill while the paying public is movin...
Hyak is closed M - F so as long as you don't get in the way of the Nordic center groomers, which operate out of the base, there is no one to give you the stink eye. Your own private resort w/o the crowds midweek. Hyak usually doesn't open until Christmas so you might get Sat and Sunday runs as well until it opens for the season.
When the resorts are open, it is generally frowned upon to be moving uphill while the paying public is movin...
I am new to the area so I have a question. Can you skin up inbounds at Hyak (and the rest of the mountain)? It sounds like you did but I just want to make sure. I went to Silver Basin at Crystal last weekend via skinning up the groomed stuff. This is very bizare to me because where I am from (Bozeman, MT) if you did this you would probably get gunned down by a sniper sitting at the top of a lift. Can you skin inbounds at all Washington resorts? Thanks for the...
Hi Jim,
John Morrow would be the best one to answer the question about Hex. I know he was very disappointed in what has happened there. John?
Glad you liked the pic. It was one of several sets I took while climbing up to stitch as panoramas. After stitching the tiff file is ~50 mb! (Some 360's I do are up to 150 mb - my excuse to build a new computer for Christmas. :)
Here's a link to a low res version - a lot of jpg artifact. Even so you should be ab...
John Morrow would be the best one to answer the question about Hex. I know he was very disappointed in what has happened there. John?
Glad you liked the pic. It was one of several sets I took while climbing up to stitch as panoramas. After stitching the tiff file is ~50 mb! (Some 360's I do are up to 150 mb - my excuse to build a new computer for Christmas. :)
Here's a link to a low res version - a lot of jpg artifact. Even so you should be ab...
Nice pic, Larry. So it sounds like the cover is getting decent out east - true?
I've heard a rumor that the standard approach to Hex (i.e. by the Newport Creek sno-park) now has a new housing development (either done or being built) - do you happen to know what's up there, and whether there's still reasonable access to that route? The optimist in me in fact wondered if you can now drive a plowed road up to near where the trail gets onto the ridge, with parking nearby a...
I've heard a rumor that the standard approach to Hex (i.e. by the Newport Creek sno-park) now has a new housing development (either done or being built) - do you happen to know what's up there, and whether there's still reasonable access to that route? The optimist in me in fact wondered if you can now drive a plowed road up to near where the trail gets onto the ridge, with parking nearby a...
We never got above the fog at Hyak. Shouda gone to Alpental instead of Hyak!
Nice photo fellow dawn patroller :D
Scottie
Nice photo fellow dawn patroller :D
Scottie
ross, you need to take your tele gear to the Shanghai ski dome so your legs will be better prepared for your next trip to the PNW ;D
Don_B: Important issue, snow balling on the paws. My Lobo already does that some. Chewing on his paws sounds touching, but I've found it considerate to trim the fur between his pasd with scissors from time to time, and it tastes better, too. ;)
Nice report Pete and thanks for avoiding all of the photos of me on my face after jelly legs from the previous torture day at Crystal chasing you fixed healers around the hill. I wished you would have captured my 20' launch though...HAH!
The snow is still passable higher up at the pass... In the Mt Snoqualmie/Snow Lake area today, it was decent above 4500ft or so. Let "wet powder" on sun-sheltered slopes. It was *horrible* below 4000ft - sounds like what you found on Hyak. Very strong microclimate going on right at the snow lake saddle though (4400ft)... very cold, the trees are still flocked with snow, it was the only place we encountered truly dry powder still (but only 2-3 inches on soft crus...
Downhill,
I bet it was good during our good snow period last week.It is, alas, back to the usual frozen snot to which we have become accustomed to here in the beautiful PNW. It was still invigorating and better than sitting in traffic like I usually do at that time. :D
I bet it was good during our good snow period last week.It is, alas, back to the usual frozen snot to which we have become accustomed to here in the beautiful PNW. It was still invigorating and better than sitting in traffic like I usually do at that time. :D
Now the only thing your missing are the hot springs and monkeys!!
Not a bad way to spend a Wednesday morning. We were up there on Saturday morning and it was fantastic. Two runs on the front side with only a 1/2 dozen tracks already, and one in the trees on the backside.
I've had some trouble with the old method of inserting pics in the TR, so had to wait for inspiration. Figured out a method, but can't insert into the TR as I'd like. Oh well.
Please, no smarty pants exposing the location if you can tell from the pic, but the second shot (Wide Open) shows why the slope is called Japan Ski, a question I'd been asked. Note the slide alder - covered in snow and filled with pow - that's Japan!
Please, no smarty pants exposing the location if you can tell from the pic, but the second shot (Wide Open) shows why the slope is called Japan Ski, a question I'd been asked. Note the slide alder - covered in snow and filled with pow - that's Japan!
Telemack,
Re: teaching dog BC skills: I skied at Heather Ridge with Peter, Baldwin and Charlie the dog in 2005. Charlie was not actually skiing, but did lots more miles than us humans, romping all around us in really deep powder. His person told us that he taught Charile to bite and lick the balls of snow from his footpads. By demonstrating how to do it on Charlie's feet. Now Charlie can do it his own self. True.
Re: teaching dog BC skills: I skied at Heather Ridge with Peter, Baldwin and Charlie the dog in 2005. Charlie was not actually skiing, but did lots more miles than us humans, romping all around us in really deep powder. His person told us that he taught Charile to bite and lick the balls of snow from his footpads. By demonstrating how to do it on Charlie's feet. Now Charlie can do it his own self. True.
My first ever attempt to post pictures...a miserable failure! And the 100 kb versions I made with a free jpg compressor look miserable on my monitor.
For now, see Flickr site http://www.flickr.com/photos/koelle/ has a few photos of Mt. Catherine. Time to learn some basic WWW-ology. David
For now, see Flickr site http://www.flickr.com/photos/koelle/ has a few photos of Mt. Catherine. Time to learn some basic WWW-ology. David
Nice photos, and thanks for the $ and lift info.
Hi jdclimber; all went well. I'll summarize our pit info: it was similar to jd's, about 1/4 mile further. The snow was 1-1/2 meters deep, and gradually increased in density as I slid a card into it. The shovel compression got nothing until 3rd full-arm hit, then an uneven fracture at about 20cm. Randyand I could not get anything else to move lower. So it looks like two unstable layers, one where the last storm hit Wed-Thu and then the old rain crust...
I may have seen your tracks from Pan Dome. I spent a lot of time looping through the powder just west of the backcountry gate. Since we made use of the lifts, you'll find my report and photos in that section.
Bob
Bob
Jeff,
To bad about the crust, but a fabulous report.
Very creative trip considering the road washout of your normal stomping grounds. >:(
Its like a mini cascade mountain in the middle of the crater.
Good job.
Joe
To bad about the crust, but a fabulous report.
Very creative trip considering the road washout of your normal stomping grounds. >:(
Its like a mini cascade mountain in the middle of the crater.
Good job.
Joe
Thanks for the pics,
We forgot our camera, but won't forget the turns from Coleman pinnacle area. We were a group of three that made our way a bit further west towards Camp Kaiser. Thanks again! (We left a little early because...big Mike broke some teeth out on first run :'(
SAMOON
We forgot our camera, but won't forget the turns from Coleman pinnacle area. We were a group of three that made our way a bit further west towards Camp Kaiser. Thanks again! (We left a little early because...big Mike broke some teeth out on first run :'(
SAMOON
Thanks JD for the comprehensive snow pit report.
Glad it was a great trip.
Good stuff!!
Joe
Glad it was a great trip.
Good stuff!!
Joe