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What's up Stugie-this is david garcia. i am on this site just not high profilin' like the Slut. great riding with you. see you soon. btw, i wrote up a little report on yesterday's tests on splitboard.com and i'm going to post a link to the vid
JCK - I wanted to hit up Mt. Catherine yesterday, got any info on that? Glad to hear it was good near Hyak...we actually found a slope with a similar aspect at about 30 degrees and heavily treed. After running a few tests, it seemed stable enough to try and thank God we did...snoslut will post a TR on that later I think...i just wanted to get the avy info out there.
Marcus - Although that was a more open 20 degree slope, we managed to safely ski an adjacent 30-34 degree sl...
Marcus - Although that was a more open 20 degree slope, we managed to safely ski an adjacent 30-34 degree sl...
Larry,
Thanks for the TR. What kind of shelter is that?
Thanks for the TR. What kind of shelter is that?
Wonga -- thanks for the info. I'd love to see how quick that went on something in the typical slide steepness.
Nice video work fellas. Did you head back for the car, or find some low angle slopes to ski & if yes, how was it?
Hyak far exceeded my expectations yesterday. I expected exercise & cruddy skiing, but the snow was pretty darn good.
Hyak far exceeded my expectations yesterday. I expected exercise & cruddy skiing, but the snow was pretty darn good.
That is a cool way to stay in avy safe terrain!
Here is another.
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Larry~
what is the peak in pic #2? Looks delightful.
The peak on the left is an unnamed one on Red Mtn, just slightly east of south from point 5703. There was a huge snow plume off the top which I could not quite capture as I would have liked, but here are a couple of pics:
http://www.larryscascaderesource.com/pics/red1.JPG
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Larry~
what is the peak in pic #2? Looks delightful.
what is the peak in pic #2? Looks delightful.
Is this......? ;) I only ask because I just noticed this and I think I may know exactly where that is and have skied it a few times. Crazy!
Do you want me to not say the name (if I am right that is)?
For what it's worth I don't think that's the kind of place that would get too tracked out (once again IF I am right).
Do you want me to not say the name (if I am right that is)?
For what it's worth I don't think that's the kind of place that would get too tracked out (once again IF I am right).
I always park at the snowmobile end of the Sno-Park - it minimizes the length of the flat skin in/out. (Be careful not to park in a fashion that blocks a snowmobiler's loading/unloading zone, if Margaret draws you near.)
Did you skin from Gold Creek Snow Park?
Looks good. I'm sure those turns were powered by a nice wedge of Chocolate Cake and a Coke. 4%, hah! Hayak this morning was probably around 40%...you gotta like the taste of paste, remember those days!
great pics, and turns!
that area looks familiar, is that the saddle (first/last pics) between north and south diamond peaks on cameron pass?
thanks
that area looks familiar, is that the saddle (first/last pics) between north and south diamond peaks on cameron pass?
thanks
While dodging dogs and postholes at Hyak, Brenda says "I'll bet Ron and them are tearing it up at Paradise". I never thought they'd have opened the gate so early. Never know if you don't go.
Robie, the snow up at the Pass really dried out overnight. Much better than what we had on Sat.
Robie, the snow up at the Pass really dried out overnight. Much better than what we had on Sat.
Thanks for the kind words, Robie and Chris.
Sometimes I forget what a large part friends play in this bc skiing game.
It's not just about the skiing, is it.
It's looking like we'll have lots of options this next weekend, eh?
C'mon snow, keep it comin'!!
Sometimes I forget what a large part friends play in this bc skiing game.
It's not just about the skiing, is it.
It's looking like we'll have lots of options this next weekend, eh?
C'mon snow, keep it comin'!!
ron-
thanks for the great post, you have given me inspiration to ski Paradise soon! I miss it up there already.
No offense taken regarding the avy declaration. I am so new to the bc that I am overly cautious, and do not have much knowledge to rely on... yet. I do wish I had gone now, oh well, more pow for you guys! I hadn't heard back about a possible ride with you all and didn't want to impose with you all. Sorry about waiting for me, hope you did not really wait too...
thanks for the great post, you have given me inspiration to ski Paradise soon! I miss it up there already.
No offense taken regarding the avy declaration. I am so new to the bc that I am overly cautious, and do not have much knowledge to rely on... yet. I do wish I had gone now, oh well, more pow for you guys! I hadn't heard back about a possible ride with you all and didn't want to impose with you all. Sorry about waiting for me, hope you did not really wait too...
Way to pull one off Ron and a damn good post. but that's normal for you.
When all is taken into account there is a lot of work going on to get some recreationalists up that mountain. Snoqualomie and Stevens are kept open because of all the bucks on big rigs rolling through with pigflesh trading places with salmon and oysters. What or rather who is really going up to Paradise ? One last word about the park employees, sometimes it appears
thier job is easy but like ferry work...
When all is taken into account there is a lot of work going on to get some recreationalists up that mountain. Snoqualomie and Stevens are kept open because of all the bucks on big rigs rolling through with pigflesh trading places with salmon and oysters. What or rather who is really going up to Paradise ? One last word about the park employees, sometimes it appears
thier job is easy but like ferry work...
Nice man! I too am very optimistic that this will prove to be a great season in the PNW! Did you tour towards Catherine at all? Thanks for the tr.
There were a few people skiing the back bowl off Mazama, we stayed on the 25 deg. slope running down the middle. There was about a foot of light snow on a crust. Either side seemed wind effected and much deeper. I climbed a little ways up the high point just south of the drop in point to check out the gully that runs east from just north of the summit. Put one ski in and gave it a stomp, got a very loud whump. That was enough for me, back to the low angle stuff.&nb...
The snow on the slope we skied was so great we thought we had died and gone to Utah powder heaven! ;D. We actually had this little slice of heaven all to ourselves, when we had finally decided to move along to Narada Falls, was when three others showed up, but there was still some fun untracked left. What a great day to be on the mountain :D.
So was this up by Hoodoo? Nice man; thanks for sharing...
We waited for you 'til 8:15 Chris.
Turned out we had room for 3-4 more skiers in 4wd rigs as Bonnie took hers up to spot at Narada.
Not to target you, Chris, but you mentioned a couple of subjects I've been meaning to comment on lately...
Re: Avy danger, to paraphrase some pretty cool and bright guys that I know: "Backcountry travelers should be aware that elevation and geographic distinctions are approximate and that a transition zone between dangers e...
Turned out we had room for 3-4 more skiers in 4wd rigs as Bonnie took hers up to spot at Narada.
Not to target you, Chris, but you mentioned a couple of subjects I've been meaning to comment on lately...
Re: Avy danger, to paraphrase some pretty cool and bright guys that I know: "Backcountry travelers should be aware that elevation and geographic distinctions are approximate and that a transition zone between dangers e...
Looks like you all had your way with the slopes! I was thinking avy danger was going to be through the roof and that the road would not even open at a reasonable time, I guessed wrong. The woman enjoyed the extra day at home with me though I spent most of my sunday wishing I was skiing powder with all of you :)
Hope to get it with you all soon!
Chris
Hope to get it with you all soon!
Chris
Saw a pretty good size slough on the steeper slope between Bundy's and the River.
Didn't get a look at either of the other two spots mentioned.
Nonetheless, with last week's snow and what has fallen so far this week plus what's forecast for the rest of the week, I'd bet you'll have pretty good coverage 'bout anywhere up there.
Let us know what you find, Scotty.
Didn't get a look at either of the other two spots mentioned.
Nonetheless, with last week's snow and what has fallen so far this week plus what's forecast for the rest of the week, I'd bet you'll have pretty good coverage 'bout anywhere up there.
Let us know what you find, Scotty.
Good job Ron and gang. I'm planning a trip there on Friday. How does Bundy's and Why Not look like in terms of coverage and have you had your way with Mazama bowl yet?
Awesome!!!!
That is my hometown. I have been skiing those ridges since I was a young lad.
That ridge, "Emma Ridge" can be great skiing at times for sure. The best time to get it is in the spring though. It is almost due south facing, so the crustiness you described is not surprising. That is some of the best corn in Utah though.
I have had some SICK days on the ridge in the winter though. That is one of the safest places to tour in the winter because they do...
That is my hometown. I have been skiing those ridges since I was a young lad.
That ridge, "Emma Ridge" can be great skiing at times for sure. The best time to get it is in the spring though. It is almost due south facing, so the crustiness you described is not surprising. That is some of the best corn in Utah though.
I have had some SICK days on the ridge in the winter though. That is one of the safest places to tour in the winter because they do...
A few of us were up there yesterday. A hasty pit on the N. face of the ridge showed similar features to those described in other posts. About 18-20" of low-med density snow on top of a few inches of very light snow/hoar frost and granular, all over the crust. Sheer tests had the top 8" easy sheer with very irregular sheer surface, moderate sheer at the crust, again with an irregular surface. However, isolated columns collasped without any added weight! Wit...
There actually MSR shoes with tails on. I love them because they have bales on them, making it easy to go straight up and less switch-backing.
rc - I checked and its a named peak. nice ski destination with quality runs, if a bit short. Just never knew its name
You the Man, Bandit. Well said; just didn't want to be the only one to say it.
Made another run up there to the Tatoosh today. Gate opened at 9am under high clouds, but very clear visi and didn't start snowing lightly until after 4pm. Talked to a friendly Ranger at the gate and when offered donuts and coffee to get it opened earlier, he mentioned that Scotch might do the trick. Hmmm, sounds like a potential crack in the rigid policy, but not su...
Made another run up there to the Tatoosh today. Gate opened at 9am under high clouds, but very clear visi and didn't start snowing lightly until after 4pm. Talked to a friendly Ranger at the gate and when offered donuts and coffee to get it opened earlier, he mentioned that Scotch might do the trick. Hmmm, sounds like a potential crack in the rigid policy, but not su...
Leel: We took the forest road that starts just behind the restroom/warming hut and parallels the highway SW for a bit, then headed off into the tree. Not sure where I did not have a compass on me. But it was more across the highway from Needle Peak (i.e south of Yak-Nak). Where did we go?
Matt C: I have not been to Manning yet.
Matt C: I have not been to Manning yet.
Thanks for the report. I was wondering how things were doing out that way. Any chance you've been out to the Manning Park area recently?
Ottomite? S of Zoa right or was it directly across the shed from Needle ie S of Yak-Nak?
Nice pictures given the amount of snow.
Nice pictures given the amount of snow.
superior didn't have enough snow high up, skied the two peaks before it probably be a while until its ready.
We were up there on the 16th, as high as the upper radio tower at 5k. A pit at the little clearcut by the upper tower - E facing, not terribly steep, still affected by trees beneath, was highlighted by easy shears of the upper 18-ish" at the _thick_ crust or just above it on a super thin icy layer (surface hoar?). Shears didn't seem to have much "pop" to them, but released easily. The snow above the crust was cohesive enough to support a shovel-length/blade width bit of...
I have to admit that I usually feel safer in trees as well.
However, I balance that with the fact that one of two avalanche releases I've been close to or a part of was in a heavily forested slope. Snowpit data derived from a pit dug on that aspect (in the trees) had confirmed the danger. We skied it anyway, and my buddy was carried 60 feet before it ran out. Had we been on a sustained slope or had he been caught in a terrain trap he could be dead. ...
However, I balance that with the fact that one of two avalanche releases I've been close to or a part of was in a heavily forested slope. Snowpit data derived from a pit dug on that aspect (in the trees) had confirmed the danger. We skied it anyway, and my buddy was carried 60 feet before it ran out. Had we been on a sustained slope or had he been caught in a terrain trap he could be dead. ...
I find safety in trees all the time.
and in some cases it doesn't minimize the danger it can increase it. trees can be an anti-anchor. they emit heat...not much, but sometimes enough to cause a temperature differential thus creating a release point. i'd say that usually this would only be the case with old growth, i.e. alpental.
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contrary to popular belief, there is no safety in trees.
But if you read closely, I wrote "to minimize danger" not "to avoid it completely." Smaller faces, shorter aspects, less snow, more wind protection - all those things minimize danger. And the snow we observed while climbing was ready to go.
Beyond that, though, good po...
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As I always tell people who rant and bitch and whine about government employees being lazy, inefficient, apathetic, etc etc blah blah blah..... did it ever occur to you that they make a lot less money than a private sector employee with a similar skillset and job functions?
So until you, and the rest of the general public (and namely, the politicians we elect) become...