TAY Atmosphere

IMHO
Random tracks is the MOST interesting part of TAY because it's informative and some of the discussions extremely interesting as are some of the personalities displayed. To turn it into a dry, information only, technical site  where even frivolous or simply humorous posts ( even about the merits of bobble hats)would not be allowed ,would be a grave mistake. Censorship= history has proven and continue to proves its a failed strategy especially in the age of the internet. TAY would become the North Korea of skiing websites. Marxism believed that in the workers utopia that communism would create, the proletariat would post on websites only technical and uplifting discussions on worker productivity and serving the " commune". It didn't work out that way and North Korea is I believe, not a very humorous or pleasant place.

Trip reports are becoming scarcer because the BC is becoming overrun( due to WA's lack of good winter access's)and people are reluctant to post where they went and especially when the conditions are good because it will attract people to that spot. I know a lot of TAYers who complain about the same old TR's to the same old spots and bemoan the lack of TR's "like the old days" who themselves, seemingly in personal denial, refuse to post about their exploits for fear of attracting competition.

Lift Access is mostly irrelevant but it does provide an avenue for discussions into the myriad customs, etiquette,and byzantine details that is serious resort skiing. I fear some may dislike it for the attractive forces a good DDK report may have on the lift lines the following day and the competition in the secret stashes which are nowadays very few.

Such is the nature of humans who will complain about the intentions and selfishness of others while being selfish themselves.

^ I like that there are people willing to go off the reservation to make a point. It's entertaining. I lose interest when those wanderings turn mean. The emerging theme seems to be, discuss, debate, argue, laugh, entertain and inform while being good to each other. That seems reasonable.

When it comes to being "family friendly" the waters get murky for me. Tune in to CBC radio at any given time and you are likely to hear the F bomb dropped often. Bless the Canadians for their honesty. Is it a matter of parental control or a cultural standard imposed in the ever evolving social experiment of the inter-tubes? Saucy language is the norm in my house. Points awarded for creativity. However, everyone is put on best behavior when visiting Grandma (bless her heart) because that is the norm in her house. Should TAY become like a visit to Grandmas house? The snow riding "community" seems too diverse and vibrant for that.

IMHO
Random tracks is the MOST interesting part of TAY because it's informative and some of the discussions extremely interesting as are some of the personalities displayed. To turn it into a dry, information only, technical site  where even frivolous or simply humorous posts ( even about the merits of bobble hats)would not be allowed ,would be a grave mistake. Censorship= history has proven and continue to proves its a failed strategy especially in the age of the internet. TAY would become the North Korea of skiing websites. Marxism believed that in the workers utopia that communism would create, the proletariat would post on websites only technical and uplifting discussions on worker productivity and serving the " commune". It didn't work out that way and North Korea is I believe, not a very humorous or pleasant place.

Trip reports are becoming scarcer because the BC is becoming overrun( due to WA's lack of good winter access's)and people are reluctant to post where they went and especially when the conditions are good because it will attract people to that spot. I know a lot of TAYers who complain about the same old TR's to the same old spots and bemoan the lack of TR's "like the old days" who themselves, seemingly in personal denial, refuse to post about their exploits for fear of attracting competition.

Lift Access is mostly irrelevant but it does provide an avenue for discussions into the myriad customs, etiquette,and byzantine details that is serious resort skiing. I fear some may dislike it for the attractive forces a good DDK report may have on the lift lines the following day and the competition in the secret stashes which are nowadays very few.

Such is the nature of humans who will complain about the intentions and selfishness of others while being selfish themselves.

I agree on all points. well said.... IMHO of course.

...  flame throwing ... didn't happen. 

Don't think I don't remember Jarvis Jelly! Its all there, just do a google on it.

Other than that, I'm too tired to fight on the internet anymore. Besides, in retrospect, I just look stupid when I do. Not to imply that others look stupid when they get aggressive, just me.

For myself the photo limit moved me to NWH to post TRs and link back here to share (their photo posting is also much simpler).

This has been a growing concern of mine. I'd like to see the TAY photo guidelines and tools updated. When I see JimD and JasonH cross-posting from nwhikers.net, it tells me that something is wrong here.

I understand that there have been problems with the thumbnail tools for several months now. Could someone in the community give Marcus a hand with that? I think the current "guideline limbo" is not good for TAY.

Being in my mid 60's, I've been rereading the Rules of Aging by Roger Rosenblatt.  Our current thread reminds me of rule #27: Just because the person who criticizes you is an idiot doesn't make him wrong.   

I enjoy the diverse opinions.  I do not enjoy the personal attacks about an individual's comments.  If you disagree with a person's comments, a thoughtful response without slander seems like a genuine way to point out alternative ideas.  You can always send the individual a PM, and say whatever and spare the rest of us that part of the dialogue.

I enjoy TAY and want to see it continue to evolve and grow. I am disappointed when experienced contributors and lurkers are reluctant to participate because they are not interested in being subjected to negative personal comments.  It seems that most TAY individuals do not enjoy being verbally abused on a public forum.   

Thanks Marcus.  It certainly is a thankless job at times.  I am pleased that you started the thread to allow the community to express their opinions