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  • Jim Oker
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14 years 11 months ago - 14 years 11 months ago #198132 by Jim Oker
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One thing often missing here is the close relationships that allow for some bickering without irritation. For example, on a good day, my brothers and I bicker a little bit. On a bad day, we can argue forcefully. But I've known them all my life, so when they make remarks, I know the psychological context.
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Many of the social graces involve white lies and some degree of emotional dishonesty. I would hate to see TAY become the type of place that always emphasises politeness over truth.

Who here hasn't said something they regret at one point or another, both online, and in-real-life? Did the remark really indicate how you felt about that person?


You make an important point about the difference between spirited discussion with close friends and relatives versus in a big online community.

I question whether "emotional honesty" requires publically airing the negative thoughts one has about another. Perhaps if one takes the phrase to the extreme, it does, but then it will tend to come at the cost of "constructive and enlightening discussion" and will stifle more important "truth and the heart of the matter" (I mean really, is knowing that person A thinks person B is being stupid really a super important "heart of the matter" to air, even at the expense of, for instance, having a good community discussion about prudent backcountry decision-making which doesn't devolve and push members away?).

I've certainly said and written things I've regretted. The regret is a good indication that I should try to avoid repeating these actions.

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14 years 11 months ago #198136 by Splitter
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Many of the social graces involve white lies and some degree of emotional dishonesty. I would hate to see TAY become the type of place that always emphasises politeness over truth.


I agree with the point, I hope you are not trying to use it to justify intentional bad behavior. We could take just one comment Made by Scotsman in this thread:

Marcus, keep up the good work but don't let the praises of the gushing sycophants go to your head.
TAY is a republic not a monarchy!

This comment appears to refer to myself and a few others who are thanking or complimenting Marcus. The truth is I really appreciate what Marcus and Ron do for all of us and I want them to know it. Belittling others for expressing their honest opinion will sacrifice truth and drastically reduce the value of our community. I don't see how the insult adds anything of value. If I am misinterpreting the comment, more care needs to be taken by the author.

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14 years 11 months ago #198137 by Ross B
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I think a personal introduction section would be great... I think TAY is a great community and I'd like to get to know everyone better! I agree with just about everyone's comment in some way, and maybe a "personal opinions" type section might also be good. Right now, Random tracks just about covers that, but maybe a place where people can argue all out about things like Avy safety and other topics that can be very arguable. I think that a lot of rude comments are because people have differing opinions on topics like safety, and it could be very healthy to address these concerns. I do think that TAY IS a great forum, and has really valuable information, and a positive attitude.

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14 years 11 months ago #198140 by Team Wally
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I guess I'll jump into this one with the caveat that it's better to be thought fool rather than opening one's mouth and removing all doubt. From my limited perspective on this new fangled internut chat room I have truly enjoyed the banter, trip reports and general supportive nature of discourse on TAY. I firmly believe that folks who do what most TAYer's do are a breed far removed from the typical resort skier, and are perhaps a bit brighter as well. I've been appalled at the level of venomous hate on the TGR boards, leading me to conclude that climbing up and jumping off stuff in and of itself does necessarily produce a human being of a higher calling. I have been ashamed and mortified to have made turns with some of the foul mouthed, disrespectful maggots over the years. While I have some familiarity with language of the more obscene variety, I try limit my use of such, particularly in a public arena. Imagine how loudly I could yell profane with all my PA gear ! Moderation in my modest view is a slippery slope, fraught with unconsolidated layers, slabs and mystery facets. I would humbly suggest a rating system, thumbs up or down with a cumulative rating for each poster. Let the bull chips then fall where they may. Lowell may have the best idea with the umbrella.

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14 years 11 months ago - 14 years 11 months ago #198146 by Joedabaker
Replied by Joedabaker on topic Re: TAY Atmosphere
Take a vote, but I say dump the Lift access reports.
This is a BC site and it would be great to focus on BC reports and conditions in the BC. There is a lot of hype and attitude that bleeds off of those reports. Originally that threadline started because people were posting lift reports in the BC trip reports. Lets just call it quits on those period. If someone wants to post about snow conditions that were seen in the snow pack from lift access post them on the NWAC. There are lots of ways to find or post that info via on FOAC.

Move with a swift sword and drop the posting of frivolous, irrelevant topics. Like bobbles on hats.

I like this site to share and get info on how to's of ski gear, reviews and such. Trip reports are interesting if there is some participation by the poster besides 5 pictures and no explanation of the conditions. TAY is a one stop shop for all the weather info any BC person needs around here.

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14 years 11 months ago #198148 by wickstad
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I'm glad there's a website I can go to where I don't have to worry about somebody posting disgusting photos of their cross-contaminated filthy kitchen. Photos of raw meat be it lamb, bacon, what have you make me sick. And I never see it here. I'm glad the pigs have not infiltrated this site with their photos of bacteria infested raw meat boiling over on their filthy stove top.

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