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CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME WHERE SOME GOOD SNOW IS?  I've read a lot of reports and I live over in Spokane and I really want to go snowboarding again.  I just got back from Skyline Divide and I want to try and avoid ice picks and all that.  Please Help Me!  I really want to try Adams or Rainier, but anything would be good.
CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME WHERE SOME GOOD SNOW IS?  I've read a lot of reports and I live over in Spokane and I really want to go snowboarding again.  I just got back from Skyline Divide and I want to try and avoid ice picks and all that.  Please Help Me!
CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME WHERE SOME GOOD SNOW IS?  I've read a lot of reports and I live over in Spokane and I really want to go snowboarding again.  I just got back from Skyline Divide and I want to try and avoid ice picks and all that.  MadDog, can you help me?
CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME WHERE SOME GOOD SNOW IS?  I've read a lot of reports and I live over in Spokane and I really want to go snowboarding again.  I just got back from Skyline Divide and I want to try and avoid ice picks and all that.  Please Help Me!
Charles, You're too kind.
However, being a "gps guru" seems a dubious distinction.  
I thing I'd rather be known as the "tailgate/BBQ apre' ski party king" but MadDog and the Dutchess seem to have that title all wrapped up.
It's not quite continuous even on the north side of the ridge, several rock bands have melted out and others are nearly done. We carried the skis most of the way back from Wells Creek to the saddle, it wasn't worth skinning or skiing most of it.  

Sholes Glacier looked to have fairly good coverage, except for a big section of old ice melted out in the middle.  I'll try to post some photos in the Ski Route Photos section soon.
Thanks for the TR, Amar. I had recently been thinking about this trip as a possibility for early August and was about to start making inquiries. Is there continuous snow on the north side of the ridge, from your longer run back to the "first saddle SW of Table Mountain"?
You're in luck: you can camp out near the intersection of the South Climb trail and the Around the Mountain trail at something like 6600 feet, climb the following morning to the false summit at about 11,500 feet, ski down and follow the Around the Mountain trail back to your camp.  5000 vertical feet.  No problem.  The options for higher traverses look unmitigatedly ugly: loose, steep, unconsolidated pumice ribs.  You're not going to save any energy that way.  

Pe...
I'm headed to Adams for the first time on Friday. I've been following all the reports here & elsewhere & I'm stumped as what to do. The consensus from the reports is that the SW chutes has the best snow but in order to commit to them, you basically have to camp low on the mountain.

I'm not a superhuman climbing machine so that's too much vert in a day for me. 4-5000' vert is reasonable for me so I was thinking of setting up camp just below the Lunch Counter at 9000. Besides, I'd l...
Ron and Jerry, great photos! I got some good action shots, but it will be a couple of weeks before I get them into a home page gallery.

Robie, I'm afraid that I misled you about the cracks. I was sure I saw a big one in June where cracks have appeared the past couple of years, but nothing was open last Sunday where I thought I had seen them (as you already discovered). As the photos show, however, cracks are appearing and will probably spread to the previous locations.

Adding to Ro...
Too close to home, Ron: I'm struck speechless.

JW, you've got some nice shots in there, too.  I really like # 7 and #10.  Thanks for posting.

(Aside, sotto voce: "One thing about that Ron Jarvis: he really knows how to put you in your place if you ever step out of line.")
Mark - a man as worldly as you should know that the term "virginal" is only a relative term.  Hasn't anyone ever said "I've never done this before" to you?  ;)

Allen - good to hear you're back in the fold.

Robman - good to see you're back from guzzling wine.  That kind of lifestyle is way to high falootin' for a kentuckian.  So can you come out and play now?

Nice - pics, Jerry.  You got the ones I missed.
MArk ,Me again. did you notice that little schund /crevasse.
That's what I was looking for when we were there.Glad to see the Duchess out and about.Flew over Mt hood this morning and looked at Palmer GL. A little more than the last year maybe.
Thanks to all for a great trip !   8) My photos sadly lacking any action are at
Whoa MArk it might not be virginal as you and I know. but that is some shot of JW ! Wishing I could have have been there. Just got in from Vacating and that shot comes up on my screen.
Robie
 Just a couple of weeks, and already it proclaims itself "virginal."  Interesting.  We live in an age of relative truths and unstable meanings, aye, indeed we do.  

Mark



Gosh Mark, it was a virginal experience for three in this group.  And since we couldn't see that you had "sullied and spoiled" it two weeks ago, we treated it as if we had just found it  8)
I've been out of the "loop" for a while, but wanted to check in.  Nice pics Ron!  Glad to see you're out and about.  

Do you have a trip report from this years Hood trip?  Megan and I hopefully will make it this next year.

I've been doing mostly Olympic ski trips this spring.  They've been "interesting", which means "bushwackable".  We did try something off the Middle Fork "Nosnoqualmie Road" recently.  It's...
Mt Adams and the SW chutes are such fun, if you have the weather window and the timing are right you can nail that fantastic ski just perfectly!  ;D  Glad you did the tour.  Ron's on target with those way points.  8)
Nice report, Ron.  The steep-skiing photos—snow, skier, rocks—are especially striking.  

I admit that I am puzzled (nothing unusual so far) about this virginity of which you speak, a state which seems to have proven (careful now, Mark)  rather more elastic than I might have thought.  Why, it was just a few short weeks ago that Robie and I sullied and soiled that slope with admittedly callous disregard for any who might follow.  Just a couple of weeks, and already it is procl...
Glad you had a good trip and it went of "as advertised".
...I tried to get up there yesterday...had a flat tire at the Paul Peak trailhead...used my can of flat fixer, but the hole was big enough the flat-fixer didn't work, just oozed out of the tire. Changed to the mini-spare and limped back to civilization rather than take a chance going on up to the trailhead. lame....
hoping to get the boards on my feet next sunday, hopefully there will be something worthwhile to ski.
Uh, nooooo.....but for some reason I just thought of those 8 inch long chunks I always cut off the end of new climbing skins when fitting them to my skis (I don't fasten them at the tail: just trim 'em short and round the edges).  Now, if I were to take those scraps and trim them to fit my running shoes....
Mark, I still think you had some kind of skin set up on those "tennie" runners of yours cause you were almost to the point of making a rooster tail behind you as you came smokin up that false summit pitch  ;D   ;D
Great reporting by Mad Dog, and outstanding action photography by Ron. The pair of you really have this thing figured out: from the extensively-researched forest road approaches through the perfectly- timed descents, the vast stashes of waypoints appropriate to any route or occasion and the elaborate tailgate parties. I was honored to join you, and I'm glad I made the trip despite my admitted initial reluctance to ski with anyone named "Mad Dog."

I missed the previous night's fi...
Maybe in my pessimistic assessment of the snow this didn't come through: it was a great trip! I've skied up there about 15 times now in the last 7 years, and I always have a great time, whatever the snow conditions - that's why I keep going back. Wolfs is right that the hiking and exploration possibilities alone are worth the trip. I've used the Knapsack route before (TOPO! says it is about 1 mile shorter than the Wonderland trail, but about the same total amount of vertical), and it is especial...
Huh? You mean waxing my skis once every 5 years isn't a "regular basis"?

Gaper Jeffy
On my last two trips on various aspects of Rainier I've seen pretty remarkable variations in snow quality all on the same snowfield and often on the same facing. Even the Nisqually Chute for all of its sub 100 foot width for much of the distance had markedly better snow on one side vs the other. I've skied the Flett in September, and even if the turns aren't so great at least you get a pleasant hike out of the deal, plus some worthwhile minisummit targets in Echo and Observation Rocks. I persona...
Gaper Jeffrey's vow of no waxing would be more impressive if he actually tuned his skis on a regular basis.  (Then again, if he maintained his ski gear properly, he wouldn't be much of a gaper, would he?)
Wow, Kam, I thought we had the record for the most torture points at the "other G-Spot that you just don't talk about"... but it sounds like you've unseated us as the record holder!!!
All was not lost though, we dedicated some turns to you on Adams.
No hotdogs this time, Mt Adams is steak worthy.  This weekend is "dog" worthy.  ;D
Ron and MadDog:

You two know how to party!  Great report and pics.  I like the steak on the grill shot.  MadDog, did you bring hotdogs this time?  Thanks for sharing the TR and while you guys were enjoying yourself on Adams, I spent the weekend at your favorite G-spot, Glacier peak (this was the third time).  It rained all night Saturday of course. We went up to the top in a complete whiteout, with the wind blowing in every direction, and the rain soaked us good....
Probably still gonna head up to the russell/flett on sunday and give them a go...I've skied them when the conditions have been truly awful and still had a good time, hopefully the forecasted 14,000ft freezing level will help soften those suncups.
Charles, I think we were above you, in other words behind your tracks. When we were descending (by the way we did yo-yo a few sections on the Russell that we liked) we came across two fresh tracks at about 8300-ft (your's and Roy's?). By this time we were in the clouds and visibility was poor. We also followed some tracks out on the lower Flett.

I've noticed too the recent posts from Adams have been about split between "it sucked" and "it was great". Perhaps expectatio...
Yep.  Saw you.  Nice skiing.  That south face was pretty brutal, and you made it look easy.

Feel free on the photo use.
I was alone and rando.

Ron & Maddog, would you mind if I used one of your suncup photos in my TR? I don't have any photos which show them as well as yours.

Thanks,

Jeff
I guess that reinforces that it is always good to take the info reported in a TR with a few grains of salt. Everyone forms their own perceptions about the skiing based on expectations and recent experience. Based on my prior experiences, I was very disappointed in the snow, but others enjoyed the very same conditions. Bud, maybe you should reconsider your abandonment of the Flett as your destination.

zenom, I'm surprised that I didn't see you or your tracks. The only turns I saw traversi...
Great report, and very informative. I'm envious! Have skied Adams only once, and not the  chutes, just down the face of false summit. Maybe next year, if I'm not too senile.
The SW chutes is all about timing, getting there to early can leave you with very hard conditions at the top portion. It takes a while for the sun to move around and start warming and softening the snow.  If it is overcast and there is some wind , it may take a little longer.  If the skies are clear and the sun is out you will have a good chance if you hit the chutes between noonish and 1:00 p.m. It's just all about timing and weather conditions.  If you get there early and want t...

Looks like I'll try it this weekend, and thinking of camping out below the snow.  Were bugs at the lower elevations an issue? Is mosquito netting advised?

Mosquitoes were not a problem.
Assuming you would do the SW Chutes (highly advisable), I would not camp any higher than the Round the Mountain Trail (AKA part of the PCT in that area).  If you prefer to camp on the mountain rather than car camp at Cold Springs you might consider do...
Myself and two other telemarkers skied the Russell and Fleet on July 11th too. We skied from the top of the Russell (about 9990 ft) to the bottom of the Flett. I thought it was great. Smooth snow could be found on portions of the Russell (between about 9,000 ft to 8,000 ft). Of course other areas had suncups and runnels, but they weren't severe enough to hamper our skiing. All in all, very nice skiing for July in my opinion.
Great report.

Looks like I'll try it this weekend, and thinking of camping out below the snow.  Were bugs at the lower elevations an issue? Is mosquito netting advised?

Thanks in advance.
Great Report Jeanette! 8) , Great Photog Ron! 8)
Nice report, Wickstad, Thanks.
Jeffey - Too bad we missed you.  I should have been looking closer for the gapermobile when we were looking around the campground.  We proly saw you skiing down.  I think about 11:00 the 3 of us were hanging out in the rocks climber's left at about 10,000 on Suksdorf Ridge 'cause we wanted to wait a while for the sun to do its magic on the snow on the SW Chutes.  We didn't want to go to the top and wait 'cause it looked uncomfortably windy up there (turned out it wasn't as bad as the lentic...
Thanks for the great t.r. Charles...bummer to hear that the Flett and Russell are already past their prime for the season....its always my favorite spot for late season turns.  
Haven't been out nearly enough this summer, but was thinking of skiing the Flett on Sunday the 20th...anyone got recommendations of alternative daytrip destinations  that are sporting smoother snow?
So early Saturday morning 6am or so, I'm barely conscious with NPR only slightly registering. The reporter is talking a new book about cutting edge comics of the 50's and 60's, next thing I hear is a rousing rendition of the Vatician Rag by Bert er... Tom Lehrer. Coincidence? Or strange premonition? :D

Paul
Nice report Charles! Although the Summer moves along a little too quickly for me, with the snow melt at an even brisker pace, opportunites still abound for the few who still ski. Nice to see you taking full advantage.

Paul
Being the gaper I am, I actually unwisely descended the southside rather then the SW Chutes. I had pretty bad altitude sickness (or maybe it was gaper sickness?  ???) at the false summit (and everywhere above the lnch cntr). Othen than that good times and fun skiing.

Gaper Jeffy

"I have to Gape and save the world?" - Me
If you skied the SW Chutes around 1:00 p.m. then you skied the same snow as us.  Saw some pretty great turns down there too, maybe we touched your snow   8)    To bad we didn't run into you, literally that is, not physically.
Hey I was on Adams this past Saturday also! Did my skis touch the same snow as maddog's and ronj's? If so, I shall never wax my skis again. What time did you start your descent? I think I left the false summit about 11am.

Gaper Jeffy