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Good work, guys - you were definitely doing a good job of milking the season up there! Nice to have that south facing road head up close the north facing basin, huh?
Sounds like you may have explored the NE lobe of the basin a bit - true? If so, did you ski all the way out that direction? We stuck to the NW lobe last weekend, and from a distance it looked like you could find continuous snow from top to bottom in the NE side but there appeared to be some sketchy potentially rotted out are...
Sounds like you may have explored the NE lobe of the basin a bit - true? If so, did you ski all the way out that direction? We stuck to the NW lobe last weekend, and from a distance it looked like you could find continuous snow from top to bottom in the NE side but there appeared to be some sketchy potentially rotted out are...
Great pics Ron and Jeanette. By the way thanx for not making Evan and I wear blind folds. ;D The fog worked in your favor until our last run when things started to clear up a bit. The bushwhack out thru the pines made the ride home freshier. Overall a great trip with lots of surprises. 8) Except for those loud people that we would occassionally hear from time to time. That last line definitely completed the day. My bunions were a little tender from kicking steps in with soft boots. So Je...
It was a great ski and now I also have been taught how to post pictures, so here are a few I took yesterday 8)
http://groups.msn.com/WildHeartsSkiing/pictures
http://groups.msn.com/WildHeartsSkiing/pictures
It certainly was a great trip.
The snow on all aspects was nicely consolidated. Surface was softened to "hero corn" consistency. Coverage was light for May but there's still some great tours left into the basin.
Here's a shot of "snowslut" cleaning up the last line that we skied.
5/25 @ 0957... Picture change time :) Jerry wrote the report so why shouldn't he get some "thread pic" time? 8)
The snow on all aspects was nicely consolidated. Surface was softened to "hero corn" consistency. Coverage was light for May but there's still some great tours left into the basin.
Here's a shot of "snowslut" cleaning up the last line that we skied.
5/25 @ 0957... Picture change time :) Jerry wrote the report so why shouldn't he get some "thread pic" time? 8)
Thanks to Stebbi for a great day. ;D
The gullies are melting fast. Having been there twice in the past week has make this fact painfully obvious to me. But we had some great skiing from the summit to about 7000. And the glop is best handled by staying in the steeper gullies, where the skiing can still be quite fun. The low angled glop is just miserable. You can park essentially at the trailhead now (100 yard walk), and can still ski down to the end of the gully with a few short carries. <...
The gullies are melting fast. Having been there twice in the past week has make this fact painfully obvious to me. But we had some great skiing from the summit to about 7000. And the glop is best handled by staying in the steeper gullies, where the skiing can still be quite fun. The low angled glop is just miserable. You can park essentially at the trailhead now (100 yard walk), and can still ski down to the end of the gully with a few short carries. <...
Jeffey, let me know if you want company on a day trip on Hood. I'll do likewise
Will do. For the immediate future though I think I'm out of hall passes :-(
Could you define "contaminated"? <snip> (Or, heaven forbid: Henry's bottles, prophylactics, used needles etc.
On the lwr mtn there was a large volume of treebark and dirt in the snow, and the snow was just bizarrely slo...
Great steep skiing shot there, Charles. I particularly like the implied tension manifest in the way the background shrubs all lunge horizontally, straining for life-giving light and air.
... and it's gratifying to see that my mission, starting with "Backcountry skiing" is accomplished. Regards, Rainer Burgdorfer
It certainly should be, Rainer. Most of us guard our dog eared copies of your original guidebook like a pit bull with a fresh bone. I even still have the signed photocopy you made for me years ago after I called you and begged you for a copy long after the first book was out of print.
Thanks for...
Re: deep slush... I had a similar experience (one of many) on Glacier Peak many Fourths of July ago and was utterly humbled by Luke Edgar and Gorio Bustamante who rode snowboards like gods while I grunted through every turn. I'm new to this website and it's gratifying to see that my mission, starting with "Backcountry skiing" is accomplished. Regards, Rainer Burgdorfer
There's still a lot of great skiing on Mt Hood, it's just not at the lower elevations...At this point probably the best way to ski the WyEast face is from Timberline and crossing the White River drainage. YMMV.
PS to PCX-XCD and any OR lurkers: Next year I think we should have an OR Hood Meadows TAY Ski fest akin to the WA'ers Crystal Ski fest at the base of upper/mid Heather Canyon on the first weekend after the resort closes :-).
C...
Gaper, I am a Portland resident and have explored up into that Superbowl tour a few times. It was much nicer this time last year. Good idea about the Mid Heather gathering. You bring the pony and I'll slog in the keg cups!
It's a kick to go on a trip where so many are kicking out photos of the trip. It really adds to the fun... thanks to all you shutterbugs.
That said, really, Kam's the man.
Great work, Kamster. You really have a knack for taking a fantastic, fun day and turning it into a permanent, everlasting, warm fuzzy memory.
Thanks, mate.
That said, really, Kam's the man.
Great work, Kamster. You really have a knack for taking a fantastic, fun day and turning it into a permanent, everlasting, warm fuzzy memory.
Thanks, mate.
No, that's great. In this photo I can actually see where we went since we were in clouds all day on Sunday. I only had a green trails map that didn't mark Fortune Mt so now that I see the photo it all makes more sense. We dropped over to the left on the before Fortune which was a mistake. Very cool. Thank!
Richard
Richard
Nice pics everyone and great vidy Kam. It was a pleasure to make turns with you all. Some pics I took are here.
http://community.webshots.com/album/144252847GCuvvo
http://community.webshots.com/album/144252847GCuvvo
Even though the Sunday weather was somewhat a visual challenge, we were able to turn our bushel of lemons into some pretty good lemonade ;D thanks to good navigating, a few "sucker" holes and lots of talented skiers. ;D
Have been skiing Alpental the past few Thursdays, great snow around 8pm when it's cooling off. Last week you could ski down from Upper International to the lodge with only one bare patch (about 15 yards); though we ascended like you, hiking to the top of Sessel. This week will probably be even sketchier, but it's still a fun place to go.
drC
drC
Very nice trip indeed. And I've got the best picture of RJ ;D
(Another trip report with a few pics can be found on the TGR forum).
drC
(Another trip report with a few pics can be found on the TGR forum).
drC
Gaper, Great tour plan. Superbowl is certainly a screamer in good corn. We like to tour up to the WyEast Face the last day of resort skiing and cruise down after the lifts close and the area is deserted. I would definitely drive down from Seattle if you plan to drag a pony up to Middle Heather. :) Zap
Could you define "contaminated"? Volcanic ash? Sun effects? (Or, heaven forbid: Henry's bottles, prophylactics, used needles etc. left behind or hurled off the lifts by the lowly knuckledragging tribes?) Is this what you tell the Seattle people to keep them off your snow?
Here is a photo of that area that I took on Saturday.
We went up there after reading John Morrow's excellent report. Taken from south of Long's Pass, I believe Fortune Mountain is on the left and South Ingall's Peak on the right.

Please feel free to let me know if you do not wish me to post photos in your thread.
We went up there after reading John Morrow's excellent report. Taken from south of Long's Pass, I believe Fortune Mountain is on the left and South Ingall's Peak on the right.

Please feel free to let me know if you do not wish me to post photos in your thread.
Welcome Tim! Kudos on the wonderful trip. Lassen is a great mtn!
Here is a photo from May 15. Just South and East of Long's Pass.

This is my first try at posting a picture here. I was hoping to have a picture of Esmerelda but apparently I turned in the wrong roll?

This is my first try at posting a picture here. I was hoping to have a picture of Esmerelda but apparently I turned in the wrong roll?
Cascadian is pretty well all melted out below about 7500'. I was there this weekend and have a picture from Ingalls Creek looking up at it. Email me at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. if you want me to send you the pic.
Nice report, Monika.
Here's a shot of Kelvin showing us how it's done:

Several others took pics on the trip and may very well have taken shots that are more deserving of holding the coveted "thread picture" position.
If that's the case, post a better one here and...
Here's a shot of Kelvin showing us how it's done:

Several others took pics on the trip and may very well have taken shots that are more deserving of holding the coveted "thread picture" position.
If that's the case, post a better one here and...
Regarding the E. WA snow comment - it seems to always consolidates quicker out that way thanks to the drier weather. The Teanaway seems to be a good area to work on the April/May cusp while it's a mish-mosh mix closer to the crest (that is, if you like firm corn!).
Nice report - intriguing line when viewed on the map.
Nice report - intriguing line when viewed on the map.
I didn't check the elevation, but we couldn't have been more than 100 vertical feet below Windy Pass - we could have hit it from the car with a well aimed slingshot.
One more note - the lower clearcut was mostly just skiing and not fun for turns (other than a few of the little drops off the various knolls along the way) due a minor maze of small trees and fallen logs, but it did go fast anyhow. The basin is where the fun turning is at this point.
One more note - the lower clearcut was mostly just skiing and not fun for turns (other than a few of the little drops off the various knolls along the way) due a minor maze of small trees and fallen logs, but it did go fast anyhow. The basin is where the fun turning is at this point.
I didn't check the elevation, but it must have been no more than 100 vertical feet below Windy Pass itself - we could have hit it with a decent slingshot aimed from the car.
Thanks also to Nick and Brent for the route, and John for letting us know about it.
I added a photo to Andy's TR (above).
I added a photo to Andy's TR (above).
Casshole, thanks for the idea, I had a blast. Although, I had my doubs while we were booting up the steep muddy dirt.
Joshua
Joshua
How 'bout that Eastern Wa. Snow! Even in spring conditions you can tell the difference!
I second that - I was pleasantly surprised by how nice it was, especially considering the sparseness of the approach. The cloudcover definitely helped (though I assume the later rain did not).
Larry - to add to Chris' comments regarding what he called a "tight spot", in following the drainage below the couloir, we came upon a 5-6' bottleneck area where both bank...
I second that - I was pleasantly surprised by how nice it was, especially considering the sparseness of the approach. The cloudcover definitely helped (though I assume the later rain did not).
Larry - to add to Chris' comments regarding what he called a "tight spot", in following the drainage below the couloir, we came upon a 5-6' bottleneck area where both bank...
Nice report.
I'll get some photos back today of Esmerelda from Saturday. I'll try and post them. We did not see any skiers on that mountain however. The timing should be about right though as we were at the Ingalls TH at the same time. Just as the "rain" started.
How 'bout that Eastern Wa. Snow! Even in spring conditions you can tell the difference!
I'll get some photos back today of Esmerelda from Saturday. I'll try and post them. We did not see any skiers on that mountain however. The timing should be about right though as we were at the Ingalls TH at the same time. Just as the "rain" started.
How 'bout that Eastern Wa. Snow! Even in spring conditions you can tell the difference!
Nice one, Jim.
Do you recall what elevation you parked at?
Do you recall what elevation you parked at?
I have to clarify on my previous statement. It is where Dewey Creek and 123 connect not 410.
Larry-
We skied off the top of the west-most summit, which is "High Esmeralda". Kam will blame his type-o on me anyways :D
Indeed a great ski run, especially on the upper slopes. The gully skiing lower down was actually better than I had expected, withe some fun dwarf-tree skiing (the more shaded east side of the couloir is still holding adequate coverage), but has 1 somewhat sketchy "tight spot" where the snow was a bit thin where we had to cross the stream; other...
We skied off the top of the west-most summit, which is "High Esmeralda". Kam will blame his type-o on me anyways :D
Indeed a great ski run, especially on the upper slopes. The gully skiing lower down was actually better than I had expected, withe some fun dwarf-tree skiing (the more shaded east side of the couloir is still holding adequate coverage), but has 1 somewhat sketchy "tight spot" where the snow was a bit thin where we had to cross the stream; other...
Kam, thanks for the trip report!
I am wondering if you might have skied "High Esmeralda" 6760'+ This peak has a double summit with the west summit being just a bit higher than Point 6765'
To the east of High Esmeralda are the Esmeralda Peaks, the high point being 6411'
At least that's my understanding.
Last week when we were skiing Fortune, the bottom of the run I think you skied looked rather tight. How was it?
Larry
I am wondering if you might have skied "High Esmeralda" 6760'+ This peak has a double summit with the west summit being just a bit higher than Point 6765'
To the east of High Esmeralda are the Esmeralda Peaks, the high point being 6411'
At least that's my understanding.
Last week when we were skiing Fortune, the bottom of the run I think you skied looked rather tight. How was it?
Larry
Thanks to a preview of this report (from Sir Charles), Rob and I headed over Saturday. It's a nice short trip if you don't have time for a full day. 2hrs drive for us to the parking spot, an hour up to skinnable snow, two more to the summit at 1PM, half an hour there watching gray clouds and spitting snow, skipped yoyoing in an effort to get down before the precip arrived, back to the car at 330PM. Conditions were the same as the Friday group found, excellent. Next weekend this route w...
I checked into the snowmobile situation last year and was told that as soon as the ski areas close, the Cold Creek road and areas accessible from it (ie Silver Peak bowl) are open for snowmobiling - and the machines had really been working the bowl.
On the way home yesterday over Snoq Pass the Olallie clearcut looked like it was getting pretty melted out, with just the upper reaches having good looking coverage, but the bowl looked well covered. So, if you are allowed to drive up the Cold...
On the way home yesterday over Snoq Pass the Olallie clearcut looked like it was getting pretty melted out, with just the upper reaches having good looking coverage, but the bowl looked well covered. So, if you are allowed to drive up the Cold...
Thanks guys for the info. Very helpful-If the Park could manage to get Cayuse open earlier the best finish to the before mentioned tour would be - tour from Seymour to the false summit on Naches. From there ski the South slope all the way down to the hairpin where Dewey Creek and 410 meet (2200 vert in .85 miles ;)) avoiding the rock cliffs skiers right. Old timers I know call that run Big Bertha. That exposure has to be hit as soon as the pass opens, but rarely does it open soon enough to ski....
John, I was going to say 'motoring away over the horizon' but that didn't sound right. Funny, but one of my previous jobs involved looking for and eliminating alternate meanings, ambiguities, etc. :-)
Larry
Larry
Joe, we were lucky to have skied after probably the coldest night of last week. So our northfacing slopes were quite good, frozen with less than a 2 inch thaw until mid afternoon. It seems to just need a cold enough night.
We descended down the NW slope of 6567, where I think most people ski. There is not solid snow to the top of 6567 on the SW slope above Dewey Lake. Right now an over the snow entrance to the SW slope is quite a long way down the west ridge. &n...
We descended down the NW slope of 6567, where I think most people ski. There is not solid snow to the top of 6567 on the SW slope above Dewey Lake. Right now an over the snow entrance to the SW slope is quite a long way down the west ridge. &n...
John-Great trip! I was contemplating doing a similar, but opposite appoach to Seymour. Starting south of the hairpin turn where Dewey Creek meets 410. Hike through the woods more directly to the summit (avoiding the waterfall on hikers left) of Seymour and skiing the summit of Seymour's North aspects to Dewey lake and maybe back to Naches and skiing the False Summit chute into Naches Bowl then around through the trees below to Cayuse. This will need a little car shuttle to get back the las...
Still closed as of 5/11 as per the FS road pg:
http://www.fs.fed.us/r6/mbs/conditions/road_conditions_report.shtml
It'd be worth checking to see if the gate's open and cruising up the road to see how far up the snow is. Last year about this time the sledders were playing up there... not sure whether they're supposed to be in there or not.
http://www.fs.fed.us/r6/mbs/conditions/road_conditions_report.shtml
It'd be worth checking to see if the gate's open and cruising up the road to see how far up the snow is. Last year about this time the sledders were playing up there... not sure whether they're supposed to be in there or not.
We only had to carry a few hundred yards before we were able to put on skis under the Gold Hills chair. We headed past the cabins, into pickhandle basin, up the waterfall, to Pickhandle gap, then to the point.
Yuck - good detail there. Thanks for the report. The early meltout continues to show its effects. I wonder if FR 9070 is clear to Windy Pass (for cheap access to Silver Peak, as you can sometimes drive right to the continuous snow right there) - that might be one of the easiest current plays for Snoqualmie touring right now...
Creek crossings were not a problem. Some logs have been well placed to make the major creek crossing easier. I found it a little difficult staying on the trail. We had to back track a short distance to find the proper route and this crossing.