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Oh well now that I read your TR on your website Paul, it looks like if you were gonna fall anywhere on the NFNWR, you'd want it to be where Jim fell.  A strange twist of luck?  Or was Jim just having too much fun? ;)  I'm gonna lean toward the latter as you seem to have made it halfway down the thing without losing it.
Glorious Day! 8) Great group of guy's, never quite the same without Maddog, but still a fantastic summer experience.  Nice to need a polarizer and SPF 80 instead of a precip jacket. :) Ya gotta love that steep snow cone stuff!  
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Yeah-Good work Donnelly! Heck of an accomplishment! On the 20th I hiked up to Sunrise and upon my return ran into a guy on the Wonderland Trail that had pictures on his diggy cam of that brown bear on the Glacier Basin trail. It was a big Brown bear.
Very nice, and very well crafted report, Skipper  ;)  ;D
  ;)  ;D one of my favorite spots!!  Sorry I missed it but I was having a great time riding the Tour de Blast bike ride from Toutle High School to the Johnston Observatory.  It was a great weekend for that too.  If anyone would like to see some recent photos of Mt St Helen's you can see them at the end of Ron's ski picutres here.

http://groups.msn.com/WildHeart...
Very nice, and very well crafted report, Skipper  ;)  ;D
And Fantastic photog work.  Anyone that can make a geezer look like he's NOT about to fall over can really handle a lens.  Nice pics.
The ones that I managed to get are at:
http://groups.msn.com/WildHeartsSkiing/paradiseglacier62004.msnw
you talked for 2 hours about a young boy????  sick.
Sorry, didn't take any pics, I was too busy first trying to keep my out of shape ass going as fast as the others, then too busy trying to ski. I've got a bunch of nice photos from camp, though.
Sounds good Jimjar. Way to self arrest! I don't want to see people getting in trouble on that stuff, especially since we popularized the north side. Can't wait to see the pics... ;D
That does look like a good bivy spot, but I think I still would like camping at "the beach" better because it's higher up and there's water at the lake.

Wow, glad you're ok Jim, that sounds crazy to fall there.  Probably a good idea that you descended with axe in hand.  
That beeline you talked of were people for sure.  Glad I left early.  I saw one splitboarder riding down skiers left before me and he appeared to be struggling with a heavy pack.  The rest were climbers.  I started my descent the same time as 4 free-heelers.  They too dawned heavy packs and were struggling.  They had made it to the 13,000ft level before turning around do to high winds.  I assured them that conditions were better below.  Other than those en...
Ditto on the sweet pic!

It was my first time on the mountain and the SW Chutes are definitely the way to go.  Although it is funny how 19/20 circus animals opt to descend down the south spur.

It was also nice to meet some more TAY folk on the false summit.  

Joshua


Nice shot! Both of those 2 main chutes below the false summit are great ski descents!  Thanks for posting a pic  :)
Greg & Zach,  glad to hear you had an enjoyable ride in The Chute. Zach-I like your name. :)  Zap
Yes, nice work - 10,000vf in a day! It sounds like you went from sea level to 14K+ in less than 24 hours, and I'm curious about whether you experienced any altitude sickness? That sounds like a classic scenario for it, but you don't mention any problems.

Interesting about the bear. Over Memorial Day we saw very fresh bear tracks near Grand Park, and then two days later tracks and then a bear near Sunrise. I wonder if there are there getting to be more bears in the area, or just more peop...
Ice axe in hand and a good bit of luck. Every time I thought I had control my board would flip me around again. After I finally got straitened out it still took a good 100 feet to come to a stop. Note to self practice those steep lines. Minus the electric shock therapy and the fall I would have to say it was a perfect weekend. Lets do it again.
... and for those who like the visuals:

;D

Justin: do me a favor and don't.


haha.  Wasn't planning on it, or I would have already...

No, I plan to work on some of the less exposed steeps, until I feel I actually belong on such a line.
Greg, We met and talked for a minute at the top of the chutes when I was on my way down. Zach looked like a dynamite skier.  Nice of him to take his Dad out to the mountain on such a beautiful day!  8)  Hope to see you both out there again.
Don_B
Jason: it's a sweet line. The most obvious line on the mountain, IMHO. Really nice.

Justin: do me a favor and don't.
Jim fell?!  I just assumed it was Paul! ;)  I thought I told you, no more 720's on steeps! lol.  re: Jason--skiers good at keeping their edges, snowboarders good at pulling their S%*t back together...

Oh yeah, thanks for bagging a big line on the only days I don't have off... >:(  Dangit now I gotta go solo that crap, like usual...
That must've been a crazy fall! How did you like the line?

Hey Paul, sounds like you've been working on that steep skiing. What were you thinking bringing a snowboarder though? You should know better  ;D . Kidding aside, I'm glad everyone is fine. I couldn't imagine falling there (rock band in the center, right?) How did you pull it together?
400 foot rag doll. I resemble that remark. >:(
Great to read about other dads getting their kids into the backcountry! Great fun and great, memorable accomplishments for the kids. I know my six-year-old had a great time at Pineapple Pass this weekend as well!
Way to go on getting your summit, Donnelly!
Here's a photo.



I like that side of that mountain.
We saw a bootpack and some turns up your Tuna/S America thing. Must have been yours. Jim and Jeremy tried to get up there, but nearly got fried by lightning when they reached the base of the tuna. Meanwhile, I was enjoying the rain in my tent.  :)
Hey Paul out of curiosity did you guys see our tracks?  I'm not really sure what to call the run (SFNWR?) but it was really sweet.

The snow was only bad on the NFNWR, after we dropped to the other side it was amazingly good.  We were probably on it (NFNWR) around 1:30pm or so but because of downclimbing and all that we skied the other line a bit later.

The Amar sighting is probably true, he was supposed to be on Adams (White-Salmon/Avalanche Glacier) that day.  I con...
Hey Lowell, no worries about not replying sooner...I figured that with the good weather you were probably out in the mountains too.
Four of us did the traverse on sunday, ended up taking a few more hours than you took, and the snow was a little more sloppy than the powder that you had, but we still had a great time.  
As I was looking for a good snowbridge that connected onto the Park I saw some very faint tracks (yours, I assume) and it was a welcome relief to know that we had picked the...
Oh, yeah, I think we started skiing at around 2:30 or 3...doing nothing for the past three weeks made me a slow fat mofo on the way up.
NFNWR was really nice today.  ;D  Icy sastrugi until it got steep, then it was probably six inches of nice corn. There's more to the story, including a first snowboard descent, and 400 foot ragdoll from the rockband to ten feet above the bottom cliff, but I'll have to write that up tomorrow.

BTW, Jim said he thought he saw Amar on the summit today. Amar?

BTW BTW, the bivy at the last trees on the N side is the most beautiful bivy I've ever experienced.  ;D ;D
Early this morning, I was staring down at the beeline of people and/or footprints up to Muir from a jet today, wishing I were down there with the likes of you instead of winging off to work in muggy New Orleans during prime turning conditions. Looked nice down there...
When you swung around from the Boulder glacier onto the Park did you have a fair amount of crevasse navigation/hazards to get over to the less crevassed central portion of the Park or did it go pretty easily?

From photos I could find online from past years it looks like there's usually a pretty good jumble of crevasses on the upper mountain right between the park glacier and boulder glacier that one has to traverse though.


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South America? or Big Tuna?...I prefer Big Tuna, but its all good!

What time of day were you coming down NFNWR?  Is it possible you started down too early?  I remember the upper part being "kinda firm" but that it got much more enjoyable the further we skied down it.  I think we started down it around 1 or 2pm, but that was when temperatures were near 100 in Seattle last year...

Glad you found the TH a little more easily than we did 2 weeks ago! ;)
Right on! You missed out on some classic schwackage though.  ;D My arms look like the contour lines on a map.

That's awesome, you taking new people to great area. You'll have to get back to finish the NFNWR next week or next year. Snow conditions weren't just bad at mount adams. We had our share also...
Greg,

With the predicted FL between 9-10,000', I doubt the Chutes will firm up much during the evening,especially with their south exposure plus the entry point is around 8500'.  On the 15th, I could see the old slough path in the Chute.  On the 16 and 17th , I was unable to see the Chute except for the top.  Zap
How did you find the stability/slide potential?  I was thinking about Nisqually chutes tomorrow (Sat).
Good work Ron?-we forget how much we rely on them when we are climbing--especially on the steep kick turns.
This is a great part of the mountain and definitley the place to beat the crowds. Skiable through the summer and into October as well! Fun, fun.
hoping to mooch some beta off you guys if you don't mind...

When you swung around from the Boulder glacier onto the Park did you have a fair amount of crevasse navigation/hazards to get over to the less crevassed central portion of the Park or did it go pretty easily?

From photos I could find online from past years it looks like there's usually a pretty good jumble of crevasses on the upper mountain right between the park glacier and boulder glacier that one has to traverse though...
Nice variation, Zap.
Keep up the good work.
I think it's really cool to have a May 12, 1939 "trip report" on TAY.  :D

Nice report, Lowell.  Still hard to believe the transition from cold rain the parking lot at 1 am to starry skies upon waking at 3... and the transition from near-frostbite fingers at the summit to burning heat a few thousand feet down.  Very much enjoyed it.

Glad someone else took advantage of the Park headwall!

And to the question of face shots (in June): absolutely.
Those are some sweet "Homemade Turns"
...Ron- ...Did he do the climb w/o poles?

Actually, Joe, as I contemplated the day without ski poles at the trailhead, climbing was my greatest concern.  I had never climbed up or skied down without poles but I figured if the little toddlers at the ski areas can ski sans poles it couldn't be too hard going down.  But I fall over enough skinning up WITH ski poles, so I had no idea how that would be.
Thoughts drifted back to the time year...
It might not be that much slower to hike the Tilly Jane trail, but it really wasn't too hard to find our way.  There are trails (possibly they are CC ski trails?) that cut the switchbacks nicely.  I'm not sure exactly how much elevation you save by starting at the gate, maybe it's not really that much - I seem to think it was around ~4700 at the gate by looking at the map but not sure that's accurate.  So if you start from the gate, just walk the road until you see an obvious trai...
Corey many thanks for this timely TR! Ironically we're actually planning to ski Snowdome this Friday.

As to the approach, we're thinking it's faster to hike the Tilly Jane trail then to bushwack up Cloud Cap road. In retrospect do you think Tilly Jane is fastest (it's 3 miles long over 2000vert)? How long did it take you to hike the road?

Again many thanks for the report, my heartrate jumped in excitment when I read it!
what a cool traverse, I'm suprised more folks haven't given it a try. looks like a few friends of mine and I might give it a go on sunday...thanks for the inspiration Lowell.
I think yesterday was 138 in a row for him and he had plans to do something today. Donnelly claimed to be stopping at 155 for some rest, but I'll believe it when I see it. He claimed he would stop at 131 when I skied with him last and that dropped a week ago.

There is still quite a bit of snow up there, but it does require some hiking to get to at least to runs of any kind of length.
Lowell,
Sounds like a cool trip.  Sorry I didn't get your phone message until the wee-hours.  Sounds like that rain you had on your drive was duping some freshies higher up!!!

This is great beta as I am heading up with a group to ski the Park HW on Saturday morning.