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Nice.
Glad you're finding some stashes on the east side.
Glad you're finding some stashes on the east side.
Right here, studying for finals! >:(
nice...too bad I had a meeting on Thursday! Ben, Paul and Jeff...where were you guys??
Sweet. You guys are so 8). I wish we'd had ski gear for getting off of the North Ridge (of Baker I mean)...
How close can you get to the alternative northside Adams trail, I believe it is called "Divide Camp Trail?" It should be a lot closer to vehicle access and looks like it's pretty much the twin of the Killen Creek Trail. Might be a simpler alternative coming from Randle(?).
Puede ser que hicieron algo que tal vez, no me sacaria la madre? ;) No lo puedo creer! Y...
How close can you get to the alternative northside Adams trail, I believe it is called "Divide Camp Trail?" It should be a lot closer to vehicle access and looks like it's pretty much the twin of the Killen Creek Trail. Might be a simpler alternative coming from Randle(?).
Puede ser que hicieron algo que tal vez, no me sacaria la madre? ;) No lo puedo creer! Y...
La vida es bella y milagrosa.
Nice report & photos Sam. They look great. What with 4 cameras in action I doubt I've ever been on a descent with more photographic coverage. I ate a late breakfast with Sky this morning and he was about to go drop off his slides. I can't wait to see all the rest of the photos. Amar, since Sam put a link to his photos, maybe you could post one in the thread? Better yet, make me a CD.
Que nunca se olviden los dias como ayer.
Edited to a...
Nice report & photos Sam. They look great. What with 4 cameras in action I doubt I've ever been on a descent with more photographic coverage. I ate a late breakfast with Sky this morning and he was about to go drop off his slides. I can't wait to see all the rest of the photos. Amar, since Sam put a link to his photos, maybe you could post one in the thread? Better yet, make me a CD.
Que nunca se olviden los dias como ayer.
Edited to a...
I guess I'll go ahead and add the single allowed image to this thread, it was really hard to pick from nearly 100 photos I shot during the descent. The upper half shows Jason getting airborne below a truly massive overhanging serac, while the lower half shows Sam arcing past a gnarly serac with two small windows in it.
Great trip and a great report, guys.
Keep up the awsome work.
Keep up the awsome work.
I have to admit that I was the only one of the 6 of us that didn't want to ski such a heavily crevassed glacier sight-unseen, but I don't mind being the voice of caution in such a gung ho group. In the end, the others turned out to be right and the route not only went, but it was fantastic. In fact, the south Lyman Glacier turned out to be an easier ski descent than the Adams Glacier would have been (there's already one sketchy looking bergschrund crossing up high on the Adams).
Anyway, s...
Anyway, s...
Very nice report on access and snow conditions. Thanks.
Nice job! - looks like fun :D
Wondered what conditions were going to be like on Adams what with the reports of water ice, and all the new snow - looks like it worked out though...
Wondered what conditions were going to be like on Adams what with the reports of water ice, and all the new snow - looks like it worked out though...
Thank you "HIKER1" for your reply. Paul has been out of town for some time.
"The snowmobile could not be recovered right away but I know the snowmobiler involved and his insurance company are working with the Forest Service to extract the snowmobile. He does not want to leave it up there to pollute the environment, but organizing an extraction of a 600lb machine take a little time. I'm sure it will be removed from the crevasse."
I s...
"The snowmobile could not be recovered right away but I know the snowmobiler involved and his insurance company are working with the Forest Service to extract the snowmobile. He does not want to leave it up there to pollute the environment, but organizing an extraction of a 600lb machine take a little time. I'm sure it will be removed from the crevasse."
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Nice to take some turns with ya finally Joe. We're pretty much first chair at Crystal everytime but have never taken a line together.
Skinut thanx for the scout on Muir.
Skinut thanx for the scout on Muir.
I have to hand it to Skinut. I had a full work day planned and Skinut's Muir Report got me into the garage cleaning and waxing my boards at 11PM dreaming of that perfect smooth Muir decent. Skinut you nailed it -I counted 6 maybe 7 tracks from the day before. Because the surface was so smooth I skinned an easy pace nearly the whole way to Muir. Thanks for the heads up! Your convincing report played a major part in making my day memorable.
Like Snoslut mentioned-BEWARE of Tracks leading d...
Like Snoslut mentioned-BEWARE of Tracks leading d...
Glad you got up there with all that great snow! ;D
Jim- skiing the White Salmon is no big thing.
maybe 40 degrees at the most. The thing is, though, the bottom is at a pretty low elevation. This traverse really should be done earlier in the year. But, looking at it from the ski area, as long as you stay skier's left and avoid getting under the hanging glacier at the bottom, it is still skiable to White Salmon Creek.
maybe 40 degrees at the most. The thing is, though, the bottom is at a pretty low elevation. This traverse really should be done earlier in the year. But, looking at it from the ski area, as long as you stay skier's left and avoid getting under the hanging glacier at the bottom, it is still skiable to White Salmon Creek.
Tim - I have to admit that for the first time ever, I didn't take a good long look down Hell's Highway, which I regretted later because it is such a cool view. I just didn't step up to the edge, so I didn't see much more than you see in the photo, other than the not-too-large lip that's uphill of the col. If the coverage there is comparable to the coverage we found elsewhere, it should be fine based on past years' looks down HH.
Looks like a cool traverse - how tough a ski is the White Sa...
Looks like a cool traverse - how tough a ski is the White Sa...
I'm very envious of your weather. We'd planned to climb Nooksack Tower via the White Salmon and a traverse of the Sulphide on Memorial Day after participating in the Ski to Sea race. Instead, we headed home after sitting in the lodge watching the rain pour down for two hours with the cloud level below 6000.
Great break dancing!
We are thinking of a Sulphide-Hell's Highway-White Salmon traverse if I can grab a weather break. How did Hell's Highway look as a ski route to you on your way past?
We are thinking of a Sulphide-Hell's Highway-White Salmon traverse if I can grab a weather break. How did Hell's Highway look as a ski route to you on your way past?
I've not done it, but one guy I spoke with who had said it was not too technical, though there are certainly more crevasse issues than on the Sulphide route (e.g. he felt it made sense to ski roped for at least part), and there's a steep pitch or two as well. He also said it is a day unto itself so he didn't think it made sense as a day trip - better to camp up on the Sulphide and head for the loop the next morning.
It has always looked like a cool route from the various angles I've looke...
It has always looked like a cool route from the various angles I've looke...
Hi Jim Oker.
Nice Report. Way to utilize the weather window.
Have you ever circumnavigated the summit pyramid?
It looks as though it would not be too technical from the
photos I've seen. Am I wrong?
Nice Report. Way to utilize the weather window.
Have you ever circumnavigated the summit pyramid?
It looks as though it would not be too technical from the
photos I've seen. Am I wrong?
You are fortunate to have it so close to town.
Yup ;D
Great report, Jeff.
Mt Hood certainly is a beautiful mountain, and I.S. is a really great day tour.
You are fortunate to have it so close to town.
Mt Hood certainly is a beautiful mountain, and I.S. is a really great day tour.
You are fortunate to have it so close to town.
I appreciate the great historic notes from Lowell . Is there a tome from which you draw this information?
Not yet. I'm writing one. My research findings can be found here: http://www.alpenglow.org/ski-history
Thanx for the 411 skinut. I'll be there tomorrow real early. BTW how did the Paradise Glacier look?
You guys did a great job! That area is not easy to travel through, I can attain to that having skied between hogsback and tieton several times. Awesome work!!! I love the remote nature and the lack of people. My first overnight hike on my own was to old snowy, goat lake and the old lookout on Johnson Peak. I remember getting chewed out for having music. I could barely hear it from 5ft away. Ha. Good times...
I sure enjoyed this area and yes we were very lucky to get the great weather. I appreciate the great historic notes from Lowell . Is there a tome from which you draw this information? Getting into this area with more primitive equipment would be problematic.
I'll bet Bill Grubb, family and friends also skied it from their cabin in Packwood quite a while back. That is a beautiful lonesome area. I've hiked it in summer, entering from the trail out of Lk Packwood. What a great ski trip!
Charles,
Nice tracks! We saw your tracks on Monday, but not those. Although at times the snow was so thin we were bearly skiing.
Nice tracks! We saw your tracks on Monday, but not those. Although at times the snow was so thin we were bearly skiing.
it is continuous snow from the high point of the main west gully on the west face at around 13,300ft? down to hidden valley. I have no idea how quickly it melts out, but it looked like plenty of snow up high while we were there. There were bands of rock between the various gullies, but thats just walking across small sections of choss, no actual climbing obstacles.
The one fellow in our group who opted to summit instead of yoyo said that the snow at around 13,000ft was starting to soften arou...
The one fellow in our group who opted to summit instead of yoyo said that the snow at around 13,000ft was starting to soften arou...
The pioneers of skiing in the White Pass and Goat Rocks area were Chuck and Marion Hessey of Naches Washington (*). Chuck and friends probably did the first skiing on Hogback Mountain shortly after the White Pass highway was opened in 1951. In March 1953, Chuck, Marion and their friends Dorothy Egg and Tom Lyon skied from White Pass to the Goat Rocks and back, taking about a week. They slept on bough beds, cooked over campfires in the snow, slept in sweaty Army surplus tents, and toured on woode...
Sort of one thing on the way up and the other on the way down. On the way up, we followed the unnamed creek for a bit, traveling under some mini-cliffs to our left, until in the upper creek area we were able to climb left on moderate 20-25 degree snow slopes, maybe 400-500 vertical feet, up to the edge of Park (west edge). These were a bit steep for the gear Ken and Don had. For the descent, we traveled more to the far north tip of the park, gently descending in open meadows, a...
I'm glad you all got into there while the access is still reasonable. Those were probably our tracks you saw - Andy and I skied there on the 29th.
After Grand Parklet, did you cross the unnamed creek right away and stay on the trail route to the north end of Grand Park, or follow the unnamed creek up toward the west side of Grand Park?
After Grand Parklet, did you cross the unnamed creek right away and stay on the trail route to the north end of Grand Park, or follow the unnamed creek up toward the west side of Grand Park?
Nice trip! You were smart to go during our abnormally nice spring weather - and the snow conditions look like they were great. Andy and I did a five day trip there two years ago, in late June of a good snow year. We came in from the west side - Snowgrass Flats trail - when there was only about a third of a mile road walk. The approach was shorter than the east side approach, and though the coverage around the Goat Rocks was less than what you found, it was still fully adequate. I'd like to get b...
Lucky you! I have wanted to get in there for some time. Anyone interested in the area should check out the exploits of this group:
http://cascadeclassics.org/GoatRocks/GoatRocks.htm
http://cascadeclassics.org/GoatRocks/GoatRocks.htm
I have a question about this route option (I am hoping to get down to Shasta in a couple of weeks). If you go that far W, on W side of Casaval, does that mean that you'd have to climb a bunch of rotten rock etc if you chose to try to go higher than 11000 and towards the summit? Or are there lines between Left of Heart variation and Cascade Gulch that go high on the mountain w/o being interrupted by Casaval Ridge proper and related bands of rotten rock?
Also, every report I've seen r...
Also, every report I've seen r...
Great choice. The terrain surrounding Hidden Valley is varied and uncrowded. Did Mike join you for the trip ?
This trip was fun, even though snow was getting pretty low and the Parklet is melted out. Thank you Charles, for posting your trips here.
Snow conditions: spagnum moss mixed with needles on well-cupped solid base, up to 5100 feet. Above that, an inch of new wet snow on top. Well, probably a day or two old and rained on, but we counted it for fresh and it was a lot better to ski on. The park is Grand. Saw one or two sets of older tracks, one elk, no other humans -- they must have all go...
Snow conditions: spagnum moss mixed with needles on well-cupped solid base, up to 5100 feet. Above that, an inch of new wet snow on top. Well, probably a day or two old and rained on, but we counted it for fresh and it was a lot better to ski on. The park is Grand. Saw one or two sets of older tracks, one elk, no other humans -- they must have all go...
Thanks J.P.-Great info!
Ron -if you guys go out let me know ahead of time, maybe we can hook up. That SE slope J.P.skied facing Owyhigh Lake is grass covered and does not need much coverage to hit it (1300vf from Tamanos to the lake trail)-also the Governors Ridge (Barrier) NW slopes hold snow for some time, although requires additional distance for less vert.
Ron -if you guys go out let me know ahead of time, maybe we can hook up. That SE slope J.P.skied facing Owyhigh Lake is grass covered and does not need much coverage to hit it (1300vf from Tamanos to the lake trail)-also the Governors Ridge (Barrier) NW slopes hold snow for some time, although requires additional distance for less vert.
Yeah, Joe, you nailed it. About right on the pitch angles, too. You're a regular walking encyclopedia of Rainier area ski tours.
I suspect there will be some skiable lines in there for a couple more weeks.
Mark, I suspect the difficulty in pic viewing rests with msn groups, and not with your machine. I suspect msn must use their slowest servers for the groups function.
Try it later, it'll probably work.
Yeah, Kam, I second Jerry, glad you didn't parti...
I suspect there will be some skiable lines in there for a couple more weeks.
Mark, I suspect the difficulty in pic viewing rests with msn groups, and not with your machine. I suspect msn must use their slowest servers for the groups function.
Try it later, it'll probably work.
Yeah, Kam, I second Jerry, glad you didn't parti...
Joe -
Watch a message from me and if you would like I can send you a marginal photo of the NE bowl. From what we could see from the top and bottom, it looked skiable and there is coverage on that side down to the timber line (just above the creek crossing). The middle section appears to be a slightly off fall line couloir that we could not see into and that is where the mystery lies. There was evidence of recent rock fall in the lower bowl.
Not sure of the snow de...
Watch a message from me and if you would like I can send you a marginal photo of the NE bowl. From what we could see from the top and bottom, it looked skiable and there is coverage on that side down to the timber line (just above the creek crossing). The middle section appears to be a slightly off fall line couloir that we could not see into and that is where the mystery lies. There was evidence of recent rock fall in the lower bowl.
Not sure of the snow de...
Turns out the distance from parking to the Cold Springs trailhead was 3 miles. The drifts were fairly thick, so it will be a little while before the road melts out.
Thanks, JP, that info will be helpful for a tour we are considering next week.
Thanks, Mej.
Lots of us watching the Adams reports to try and pick a good time to go. Your info, especially the road access, is very valuable.
Lots of us watching the Adams reports to try and pick a good time to go. Your info, especially the road access, is very valuable.
Ron-My guess would be-What are the N-NW chutes below the Unicorn to Snow Lake? I'm surprised that those chutes still had snow in them. I looked at skiing them about a month ago, but due to time restraints and sloppy boot deep goo they were left to melt away. I figured that by the time the Stevens Canyon road opened those sweet lines would be gone! Great work! What did the pitch-O-meter say how steep those are? My guess was 40 plus degrees and the ones skiers right are maybe 45 plus? Sorry that I...
Great job guys- way to hit that open pitch. That NE pitch would have been tough to pass on. Did you notice on the hike up continuous snow from that NE shot to the valley? About how much snow was on top of Tamanos? Good hiking and fun talking with you last Saturday.
Joe
Joe
Well,another fun trip. I'm amazed at how much enjoyment can be found in a truly crappy day if you just go out there. Thanks again to Ron and Jeanette for the great recon hikes they do each fall to search out the lines we ski each week. Once again it was difficult to get any good shots. What I have are at
Nice pics Ron. Can't wait to see Jerry's. Sure could have used some clippers from the trailhead. Anyway I really enjoyed making turns in zero visibility, boot deep styrofoam powder up top. Couldn't even feel how steep it really was. Below that I could not help but notice, when I stopped after the first traverse, how the slope felt like it was moving down and so did my body. Avalanche? Nope. Oh yeah vertigo. Was an adventure filled with wind, rain, snow, sleet, sun breaks in the distance...
All day long I've sat around wondering who'd be dedicated enough to be out there skiing the slush today, rather than waiting for the sunshine and warm, caressing breezes arriving tomorrow....and now I know the answer. Thanks for the stability testing and the new benchmark phrase: "eclectic weather."
Ron, some of your thumbnails don't open full size for me. Might be one of those Mac vs. PC artifacts.
Ron, some of your thumbnails don't open full size for me. Might be one of those Mac vs. PC artifacts.
Ron,
Nice report and photos, especially the well composed shot of snoslut and the beautiful view :)! The skiing looked pretty fun and I'm glad you guys found stable snow. I was up near Mnt. Roosevelt and witnessed a wet snow avalanche on a 45+ degree NE aspect that ran for 500 ft. or so. The slide generated a lot of noise -- very exciting.
-kam
Nice report and photos, especially the well composed shot of snoslut and the beautiful view :)! The skiing looked pretty fun and I'm glad you guys found stable snow. I was up near Mnt. Roosevelt and witnessed a wet snow avalanche on a 45+ degree NE aspect that ran for 500 ft. or so. The slide generated a lot of noise -- very exciting.
-kam