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14 years 1 month ago - 14 years 4 weeks ago #203529
by mtneer ordinaire
A month or so ago, I purchased (on sale for $238*) the Mountain Hardwear Kepler (Dry-Q) Jacket. After a few Nordic ski outings, a five-hour ascent of Sasse Ridge in nearly two feet of untracked powder, and a recent stormy (avy training) weekend at Yodelin (requiring not much elevation gain but lots of standing around) I believe this is the best mountaineering/backcountry jacket I've ever owned.
In warmer temps, it retains heat but much less so than my Rab softshell jacket and Mountain Hardwear hardshell. In conditions where the jacket can't be stowed, the Kepler's pit zips help dissipate body heat. The hood works very well with and without googles.
On our second day at Yodelin, during the moderately-paced ascent with temps around 20 and no wind, my short sleeve and long sleeve shirts became too warm. I removed my long sleeve shirt, donned my jacket, and started skinning. In short time, my upper body's dampness dissipated.
On our first day, when the wind was blowing hard and snow was falling horizontally, beneath the jacket, I layered using my lightweight synthetic jacket. It blocked the breeze yet I didn't overheat when we began stomping around and digging pits.
Those experiences coupled with its 100% waterproof-ness are the two reasons why it's now my backcountry jacket of choice.
I'm 178 lbs and 5' 10". The large (chest size 43) fits me perfectly with one minor exception: the sleeve's thumb holes are a bit too tight. With another inch or two of (sleeve) length, they'd fit perfectly.
* $340 when not on sale
Replied by mtneer ordinaire on topic Re: Softshell recommendations / opinions
Same with Mountain Hardwear's Dry-Q garments. Fabric characteristics seem ideal for warmer (soggy) conditions.
A month or so ago, I purchased (on sale for $238*) the Mountain Hardwear Kepler (Dry-Q) Jacket. After a few Nordic ski outings, a five-hour ascent of Sasse Ridge in nearly two feet of untracked powder, and a recent stormy (avy training) weekend at Yodelin (requiring not much elevation gain but lots of standing around) I believe this is the best mountaineering/backcountry jacket I've ever owned.
In warmer temps, it retains heat but much less so than my Rab softshell jacket and Mountain Hardwear hardshell. In conditions where the jacket can't be stowed, the Kepler's pit zips help dissipate body heat. The hood works very well with and without googles.
On our second day at Yodelin, during the moderately-paced ascent with temps around 20 and no wind, my short sleeve and long sleeve shirts became too warm. I removed my long sleeve shirt, donned my jacket, and started skinning. In short time, my upper body's dampness dissipated.
On our first day, when the wind was blowing hard and snow was falling horizontally, beneath the jacket, I layered using my lightweight synthetic jacket. It blocked the breeze yet I didn't overheat when we began stomping around and digging pits.
Those experiences coupled with its 100% waterproof-ness are the two reasons why it's now my backcountry jacket of choice.
I'm 178 lbs and 5' 10". The large (chest size 43) fits me perfectly with one minor exception: the sleeve's thumb holes are a bit too tight. With another inch or two of (sleeve) length, they'd fit perfectly.
* $340 when not on sale
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14 years 4 weeks ago #203567
by jberkom
Replied by jberkom on topic Re: Softshell recommendations / opinions
I love my First Ascent Mountain Guide jacket I bought last year. Great fit, everything I need in a softshell. I don't see that model on their website anymore. Seems to have been replaced by the 18k softshell which I haven't tried.
www.eddiebauer.com/catalog/product.jsp?e...me=EB&viewAll=y&pg=1
I also picked up a Montane eVent shell this year which so far has been awesome when the weather is nuking. Haven't tried it skinning yet so we'll see how the breathability is.
www.montane.co.uk/products/men/shell/super-fly-xt-jacket/268
www.eddiebauer.com/catalog/product.jsp?e...me=EB&viewAll=y&pg=1
I also picked up a Montane eVent shell this year which so far has been awesome when the weather is nuking. Haven't tried it skinning yet so we'll see how the breathability is.
www.montane.co.uk/products/men/shell/super-fly-xt-jacket/268
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14 years 4 weeks ago #203571
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Good stuff...glad you like them.
Replied by Scotsman on topic Re: Softshell recommendations / opinions
My Trollveggen coat and Lyngen pant arrived yesterday. WOW!!!! The fit, the function, the science, the STEEZE!
Good stuff...glad you like them.
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14 years 3 weeks ago #203621
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Replied by outofdoors on topic softshell
gore windstopper = goretex without seam sealing = dumbest idea ever (not waterproof, not breathable).
Mountain Hardwear DryQ Elite = eVent material = super breathable (for a hardshell).
I've been really happy with my patagonia ascensionist jacket but they no longer make it.
I've also heard that neo shell is the bomb for sweat evacuation, haven't tried it personally though.
marmot makes a sort of reasonably priced one, zion for 375.
Mountain Hardwear DryQ Elite = eVent material = super breathable (for a hardshell).
I've been really happy with my patagonia ascensionist jacket but they no longer make it.
I've also heard that neo shell is the bomb for sweat evacuation, haven't tried it personally though.
marmot makes a sort of reasonably priced one, zion for 375.
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14 years 3 weeks ago #203636
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Comparing my new Kepler jacket's external fabric with my Rab eVent pant's fabric, when asked, I tell people the Kelper is a bit of a soft shell / hard shell hybrid. A quick google search indicates MH's Dry-Q Elite is a popular topic with some arguing it's a soft shell and others insisting it's a hard shell. Frankly, for me, its shell label is irrelevant. Only time will tell if my Kepler jacket lives up to Mountain Hardware's Dry-Q hype. For now, I consider it an excellent jacket which, to date, has delivered on its hefty promises.
Replied by mtneer ordinaire on topic Re: softshell
Mountain Hardwear DryQ Elite = eVent material = super breathable (for a hardshell).
Comparing my new Kepler jacket's external fabric with my Rab eVent pant's fabric, when asked, I tell people the Kelper is a bit of a soft shell / hard shell hybrid. A quick google search indicates MH's Dry-Q Elite is a popular topic with some arguing it's a soft shell and others insisting it's a hard shell. Frankly, for me, its shell label is irrelevant. Only time will tell if my Kepler jacket lives up to Mountain Hardware's Dry-Q hype. For now, I consider it an excellent jacket which, to date, has delivered on its hefty promises.
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14 years 3 weeks ago #203709
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Replied by snowcanoe on topic Re: Softshell recommendations / opinions
I can attest to the NeoShell: Makes you wonder how Gore claims breathability. I have the Westcomb Switch Hoody and skin all day in it in the PNW. On the hand, it has kept me dry in 32-degree "snow" storms on long lift serve days. I would call it a hybrid (shardshell) and relatively light at 15oz. Had to catch it on sale though, bit spendy otherwise. Made in Canada, eh.
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