WMC Update 2012

Can we please just lock this thread......let it die.

Thanks again to folks who have written in support of winter designated non-motorized areas on the Forest. And thanks for the thread here and the discussion.

Can we please just lock this thread......let it die.

Unfortunately HJ, I don't think this topic will die, or not be resurrected if the green lines on this map are continued to be pushed out further to reduce use of public land by it's citizens.

www.wilderness.net/mapFull.cfm

And to think it's only summer, once winter comes rolling around I think the debate will become more active. And with the forest plan revision process in place now is the time to be heard as WMC has stated.

The question comes in to play for shared use or not and what restrictions in what areas. I feel pretty strong that increased access and reduced poaching to the wilderness would help satisfy the goal. I'd like to hear from more skiers on this position so that support for such a proposal can be mutual.

No, I am not a snowmobiler and do not push for more land to be made available, though it might not be a bad idea.  I am a dual sport bike rider and restrictions to snowmobiles could have a ripple effect which is why I support them. 

This may make you cry.

www.fs.fed.us/r6/wenatchee/projects/nepa....shtml?project=16440

Instead of hiding behind your group name, why don't you post as the individual that you are?  Who are you?   A few years back there was an issue of people hiding behind anonymous profiles and posting here.  Has that restriction changed?

Moderators ammending the rules for their friends or causes they believe in and has always been a problem on this website Hyak -Jack. However, it is a private entity so they are entitled to do what they like.... they should just be honest about it.
Rest assured if an anyonymous entity was spewing stuff they didn't like, the story would be different.

I don't remember the issue of anonymous postings, etc, that Hyak_Jack is talking about -- can you link to it?

Despite Scotsman's assertions, there's no favoritism going on here. I've been happier overall with Yamma and Ruffryder's contributions here than with WMC, mostly because they've been very willing to get to the root of the problem and work on a solution that would benefit all user groups. I think that's the best way to go about resolving these conflicts. Personally, I think WMC's unwillingness to participate under his/her own name(s) is damaging their credibility in the debate somewhat, but they have their reasons.

There are very few hard and fast rules here and things that may have been "defined" in the past may well be outside my experience with the site (and are certainly outside it as an admin). If this kind of anonymous posting becomes a problem, the way it's handled will change, whether I agree with the topic at hand or not.

If this thread continues, I'd prefer it to be more discussion/collaboration and less cross-posting/boilerplate. All the necessary contact information has long since been shared here, for interested parties to find.