WMC Update 2012

md202...what's your suggestion for such a location for snoparks and adjacent non-motorized area?

the beverly/bean crk suggestion seems like a good start.

Not a 'wiz' in any sense of the word, but I will try and produce a google map of the 'new area' to give people something to discuss when I get home tonight. You posted a google map showing the wilderness areas somewhere above. What was the source of that map? I would like to show the wilderness, but drawing it in by hand will take time .....

I am very heartened by the useful discussion here and over at snowest!

Micah

Copied and pasted from someone on snowest.....

WMC, could you please have your sources identify the entire state wilderness/non-motorized with the inset showing the local area of your porposal?

WMC has called our contact and is waiting for a possible response in order to set up a collaborative meeting.

WMC is out of here for mountain biking, then WMC will be elsewhere for 5 days so there may be few or no posts for a while.

Thank you.

Glad to hear you're taking a much needed vacation! 

Thank You
KMC

I see issues with someone who claims to be talking for many when he is only one person.   I've seen this type of thing many times where a single person pretends to be an organization of many people when in fact they are actually an army of 1. 

If you go back to the very first message on this thread started by WMC it shows a photo of a skier on a ridge in a wilderness area with snowmobile tracks in the distance.   This does not warrant a need for more wilderness, or non-motorized terrain but simple patrolling of existing non-motorized areas to resolve. 

I will bet the farm that there is no group of folks but one man behind a name and acronym.   It does not take money to run a website if there is a real need, and if there were a real group of people called the WMC there would be a presence on the web in some form. 

This same person calling himself WMC has been posting all over forums on the web and referring back to TAY and his other posts as proof of his mission giving the impression of multiple people with a cause when it is just one guy.  If there were a real group called WMC there would be contact information, meeting places, names and so forth.  There is nothing.

FWIW.....

I see issues with someone who claims to be talking for many when he is only one person.   I've seen this type of thing many times where a single person pretends to be an organization of many people when in fact they are actually an army of 1. 

If you go back to the very first message on this thread started by WMC it shows a photo of a skier on a ridge in a wilderness area with snowmobile tracks in the distance.   This does not warrant a need for more wilderness, or non-motorized terrain but simple patrolling of existing non-motorized areas to resolve. 

I will bet the farm that there is no group of folks but one man behind a name and acronym.   It does not take money to run a website if there is a real need, and if there were a real group of people called the WMC there would be a presence on the web in some form. 

This same person calling himself WMC has been posting all over forums on the web and referring back to TAY and his other posts as proof of his mission giving the impression of multiple people with a cause when it is just one guy.  If there were a real group called WMC there would be contact information, meeting places, names and so forth.  There is nothing.

FWIW.....

I know for a fact that WMC is not one person, but several with many supporters in the Wenatchee area. Like most things web related, there are more people involved in this that don't spend an inordinate amount of time on the web or use it at all. For the time being the principals want to remain anonymous because of past issues with harassment and threats. I'm not part of WMC but support their effort with the "1000 skier project" and know many more as well as the core of WMC.

If you do a websearch on "wenatchee mountains coalition" you come up web forum messages that start in April, hitting maybe 6 or 7 forums and they all point to one another to verify facts and numbers. A real group or movement doesn't hide, and has contact information to build support.
If it is actually more then one person then it is just a group of friends, but it sure is not a force the snowmobile community needs to worry about IMO.