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March 16th, 2020 ALPENTAL Uphill Travel
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5 years 10 months ago #233705
by HappyCamper
Replied by HappyCamper on topic Re: March 16th, 2020 ALPENTAL Uphill Travel
Hmm, I suppose that would be a worthy solstice celebration at Silver.
Hoping for a miracle in April:
komonews.com/archive/number-of-march--ap...currences-in-seattle
Hoping for a miracle in April:
komonews.com/archive/number-of-march--ap...currences-in-seattle
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5 years 10 months ago #233706
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Replied by PhilH on topic Re: March 16th, 2020 ALPENTAL Uphill Travel
I just drove by the local golf course and golfers were golfing away. The parking lot had lots of cars in it. I heard they have a one person per cart rule. So, I can't drive up to a parking lot in the forest, alone in my car, and my partner alone in his car, and go wandering off into the backcountry...but, we can go golfing in town. Does this make sense?
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5 years 10 months ago #233707
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Maybe it's easier to make sure people are social distancing on a golf course and violations of social distancing can more easily be reported rather than if say 100 people drive separately to a trail head but then there is little control of what people may do 5, 10, or 15 plus miles into the wilderness. I guess they figure it's safer to just close all the national forests, than risk people flocking to the trail heads and risk people coming into close contact or violating social distancing guidelines. I would see this as a great opportunity to hire those who are out of work and give them jobs as park rangers making sure people are abiding by the rules rather than just closing all the forests.
Replied by Donnelly_M on topic Re: March 16th, 2020 ALPENTAL Uphill Travel
I just drove by the local golf course and golfers were golfing away. The parking lot had lots of cars in it. I heard they have a one person per cart rule. So, I can't drive up to a parking lot in the forest, alone in my car, and my partner alone in his car, and go wandering off into the backcountry...but, we can go golfing in town. Does this make sense?
Maybe it's easier to make sure people are social distancing on a golf course and violations of social distancing can more easily be reported rather than if say 100 people drive separately to a trail head but then there is little control of what people may do 5, 10, or 15 plus miles into the wilderness. I guess they figure it's safer to just close all the national forests, than risk people flocking to the trail heads and risk people coming into close contact or violating social distancing guidelines. I would see this as a great opportunity to hire those who are out of work and give them jobs as park rangers making sure people are abiding by the rules rather than just closing all the forests.
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5 years 10 months ago #233708
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Replied by kamtron on topic Re: March 16th, 2020 ALPENTAL Uphill Travel
Private vs. public
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5 years 10 months ago #233709
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Replied by fuzz on topic Re: March 16th, 2020 ALPENTAL Uphill Travel
Is it just me or are the same heuristics that get people killed in avalanches emerging in some posts in this thread?
Looks like a lot of confirmation bias and "expert halo" thinking.
"I really want to go skiing" -- therefore my bias is that it should be OK within the bounds of the Governor's edict and the risks to myself and others.
"I'm smarter/better informed/more rational than other people and better able to gauge the risks to myself and to others" -- therefore no prob for me to go skiing because my expert status privileges me to live outside the constraints that apply to others.
Looks like a lot of confirmation bias and "expert halo" thinking.
"I really want to go skiing" -- therefore my bias is that it should be OK within the bounds of the Governor's edict and the risks to myself and others.
"I'm smarter/better informed/more rational than other people and better able to gauge the risks to myself and to others" -- therefore no prob for me to go skiing because my expert status privileges me to live outside the constraints that apply to others.
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5 years 10 months ago - 5 years 10 months ago #233710
by frank
Replied by frank on topic Re: March 16th, 2020 ALPENTAL Uphill Travel
I have removed my previous posts in this thread, not because the info I shared is inaccurate, but out of fear that the public-discussion alone could be to the detriment of those who are still taking advantage of what (legal) outdoor rec opportunities we still have.
Stay at home if that's the responsible decision for yourself. For others that will get what they need from nature during these stressful times.. cheers.
Stay at home if that's the responsible decision for yourself. For others that will get what they need from nature during these stressful times.. cheers.
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