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Snoqualmie summit uphill policy?
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Lowell - I had the same experience at Summit West a few years ago so it appears the policy has been in place for some time.I asked if this was a new policy and he said that, as far as he knew, this had always been the policy.
www.turns-all-year.com/skiing_snowboardi...46.msg14720#msg14720
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Lowell - I had the same experience at Summit West a few years ago so it appears the policy has been in place for some time.
www.turns-all-year.com/skiing_snowboardi...46.msg14720#msg14720
Boyd - that link didn't work for me.
If you do a net search for 'uphill policy' you'll see lots of resorts have them. Some just don't allow it, some allow it before the lifts open (pre-work skinning is very popular in Breckenridge) others require you to buy an uphill ticket or pass.
I searched the Summit's website for skinning and uphill policy and found nada. So if the Summit has a policy it isn't well publicized.
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I would rather not be limited to an official uptrack, but instead adhere to the Skiers Responsibility Code, which requires that you remain visible from above and not obstruct a trail. That's what I try to do when I'm skinning.
Of course I would prefer this freedom as well, but I'm not convinced that it's realistic in the long term. My concern is that it leaves a lot of room for the new or negligent to create incidents and bring negative attention to skinners. If someone who doesn't know the terrain starts up a climb and finds that they aren't as clear of downhill skiers as they should be, are they going to promptly get out of the way, descend, and start over somewhere else? Or are they going to try to finish it off because they're already half way up and don't feel like figuring out an alternative? Is there even a good place for them to transition?
This is sort of where we're at now except that the absence of a publicly visible policy keeps many/most people from trying to skin when the resort is running, so incidents are at a minimum. I suspect that if the ski area tomorrow printed a policy saying "skinners are welcome wherever, just be responsible and use your best judgment", there could quickly be a big mess.
Am I being too cynical?
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- Lowell_Skoog
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Lowell - I had the same experience at Summit West a few years ago so it appears the policy has been in place for some time.
www.turns-all-year.com/skiing_snowboardi...46.msg14720#msg14720
I fixed the URL in my quoting of your post above.
Your older post is from a decade ago, and I'm pretty sure the uphill policy has morphed a couple times since then. There was an easing of the uphill policy two or three years ago, to the extent that ski patrollers would no longer kick you off the hill. That still seems to be the case, but now the lift operators will question you if given the chance.
I seem to recall that there was an uphill policy published on the Summit's safety page a year or two ago, but I don't see any mention of it now:
www.summit-at-snoqualmie.com/mountains/safety
My impression is that the policy is in flux, and it may not be uniformly understood or applied.
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cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php.../1118767#Post1118767
Money quote:
My favorite place for skinning workouts is Snoqualmie Summit Central. As of last winter (2012-13) uphill skinning was allowed there, but the ski patrol requires that you stay out of the way of downhill skiers. That means skinning on the edges of runs or even in the woods if there is a tight or low-visibility spot. If you go, please keep out of trouble so you don't mess things up for the rest of us.
I was not aware of any requirement for lift tickets during those years.
At the time of my CC.com post, the following web pages contained policies that permitted uphill travel, with some restrictions:
www.stevenspass.com/site/mountain/safety/uphill-policy
www.summitatsnoqualmie.com/Mountains/Safety/BC-Policy
crystalmountainresort.com/The-Mountain/Safety/Uphill-Travel
www.missionridge.com/uphill-mountain-policy
The Summit policy has moved to a different page, and it doesn't mention uphill travel. (I think it did before, but I don't have a copy of it):
www.summit-at-snoqualmie.com/mountains/safety
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