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High Campbell no more
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Beg all you like, you're still wrong. Root cause analysis: Too much bang too soon after the pineapple. None of those in-area slide paths have gone naturally to anywhere near that degree, now (or ever) have they? And they're certainly not going to slide naturally on that layer anytime soon. How many times has the snowpack in that spot been in the exact same condition over the past 30 years, without ever sliding like that? I'm guessing it's hundreds of days - this wasn't nearly the worst pineapple in recent memory. How long before the snowpack stabilizes (rhetorical, it already has)? Putting that charge on that face on that day was a mistake, plain a simple. Guarantee they wouldn't do it over again the same way, even if they won't admit it. It's got to be cheaper to close the resort, or portions of the resort for a few days than lobbing a climax avy onto your facilities.
It probably doesn't make a difference in your eyes but it's my understanding that it was a 25lb. charge, not the 40lb. charge I saw somewhere on this thread.
As for "hundreds of days" of similar snowpack, I've heard from multiple long-time Crystal Patrollers that at least as of Tuesday or so, they were freaked out, having never seen anything like this in 20+ years of controlling their terrain.
Guaranteeing that they wouldn't do it again is speculation completely reliant on hindsight. Sure, knowing they were going to take out the lift might have changed their actions but it doesn't mean it was a mistake based on the information they had at the time.
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Just hoping Baugher isn't in trouble with management.
Any estimate yet for the cost of damage/replacement?
An incident report, since we've had a casualty(RIP, High Campbell!), would be interesting/helpful.
Per this article:
kuow.org/post/intentional-avalanche-dest...l-mountain-chairlift
- Management's backup them up on the decisions made that day.
- $1.75 million
- Some more details in the text.
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The real bummer about this whole thing...The replacement chair will most likely be far less exciting to get off of.
That might not be entirely true.
It is my understanding that the top bullwheel of the new fixed-grip double will be 50 feet lower than the current C6 location. If this turns out to be true, then a sidestep up to gain entry into Powder Bowl will be needed. There are a couple of theories on why this would be. Perhaps TAY needs to look into this and lobby accordingly. This is reminiscent of where the top of Rex was to be relocated when a tram was under consideration several years ago. That is, management had the top of Rex 50 feet lower than the current location.
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That might not be entirely true.
It is my understanding that the top bullwheel of the new fixed-grip double will be 50 feet lower than the current C6 location. If this turns out to be true, then a sidestep up to gain entry into Powder Bowl will be needed. There are a couple of theories on why this would be. Perhaps TAY needs to look into this and lobby accordingly. This is reminiscent of where the top of Rex was to be relocated when a tram was under consideration several years ago. That is, management had the top of Rex 50 feet lower than the current location.
I lobby that they do put it lower. Make people work for it. It will stay untracked much longer, and keep the lazy's out
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Needed to be replaced anyway and no patrol/public killed or injured sounds like an acceptable deal to me.
I feel for the many passholders though but I believe Crystal will find a way to make it up to their loyal hordes.
Hope I get one of those chairs.
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