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New Rottefella NTN binding
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12 years 11 months ago #208837
by telemark vinny
Replied by telemark vinny on topic Re: New Rottefella NTN binding
any other recent reports on Freedom? does it need mods?
pros? cons (aside from 'still heavy')?
success with the release? that is my real motivator - otherwise that Italiano 'kickthevik' binding has appeal.
getting close to taking the plunge.
pros? cons (aside from 'still heavy')?
success with the release? that is my real motivator - otherwise that Italiano 'kickthevik' binding has appeal.
getting close to taking the plunge.
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12 years 11 months ago #208838
by Web
Replied by Web on topic Re: New Rottefella NTN binding
I've used mine 5-10 times but have a pretty good feel for them.
Pros:
-The low weight is a noticeable improvement vs. the Freeride
-Touring ROM is much improved over the Freeride, although to me dynafit feels more efficient with easier kick turns in powder (probably TTS too).
-They don’t seem to have less power than the Freeride, but I’m a medium weight guy with low tension springs: ymmv.
Cons:
-Balling is improved over the Freeride, but snow still sticks under moving parts
-Putting them on in powder can be frustrating. There’s probably a trick to it but my best advice is switch modes without removing skis if possible.
-On rare occasions I’ve popped into tour mode when going downhill. I started being OCD about pushing the touring lever as far down as it’ll go, and haven’t had an incident since.
No success or failures of the release so far
Pros:
-The low weight is a noticeable improvement vs. the Freeride
-Touring ROM is much improved over the Freeride, although to me dynafit feels more efficient with easier kick turns in powder (probably TTS too).
-They don’t seem to have less power than the Freeride, but I’m a medium weight guy with low tension springs: ymmv.
Cons:
-Balling is improved over the Freeride, but snow still sticks under moving parts
-Putting them on in powder can be frustrating. There’s probably a trick to it but my best advice is switch modes without removing skis if possible.
-On rare occasions I’ve popped into tour mode when going downhill. I started being OCD about pushing the touring lever as far down as it’ll go, and haven’t had an incident since.
No success or failures of the release so far
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12 years 11 months ago #208885
by mikerolfs
I've had the same experience. So has another buddy who uses these.
Other con over TTS is I sometimes catch the brake when ripping skins.
If I used these only for touring I would remove the brake, but for lift access tele they are so convenient.
Replied by mikerolfs on topic Re: New Rottefella NTN binding
-On rare occasions I’ve popped into tour mode when going downhill.
I've had the same experience. So has another buddy who uses these.
Other con over TTS is I sometimes catch the brake when ripping skins.
If I used these only for touring I would remove the brake, but for lift access tele they are so convenient.
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12 years 11 months ago #208896
by aaron_wright
Replied by aaron_wright on topic Re: New Rottefella NTN binding
One of the best features of the Freedom is that is puts the heel of the boot lower than the toe, this is a huge improvement over any tele binding IMO. Haven't had problems with popping into tour mode now that I rap on the lever every time I get into the binding. Silicon spray is your friend when it comes to snow balling.
Ultimately I would like a TTS style binding with an NTN second heel attachment combined with a tech toe, can some genius design this please?
Ultimately I would like a TTS style binding with an NTN second heel attachment combined with a tech toe, can some genius design this please?
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12 years 11 months ago #208915
by Snoqualmonix
That's an interesting comment, would you mind ellaborating on why you think so? I ask because I've two friends who don't like that and are contemplating adding a shim under the heel. Going to be mounting my freedoms in the next week...woot!
Replied by Snoqualmonix on topic Re: New Rottefella NTN binding
One of the best features of the Freedom is that is puts the heel of the boot lower than the toe, this is a huge improvement over any tele binding IMO.
That's an interesting comment, would you mind ellaborating on why you think so? I ask because I've two friends who don't like that and are contemplating adding a shim under the heel. Going to be mounting my freedoms in the next week...woot!
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12 years 11 months ago #208889
by Radar
Replied by Radar on topic Re: New Rottefella NTN binding
Been using mine since December, probably about 30 days on them so far and I have no real complaints. I'm coming from hammerheads, so I don't have any basis to compare them with the freeride model. I really like the way they ski. I can't really put my finger on it, but I like the "resistance pattern" (if that's a thing...) better than when I was on hammerheads.
I've had the same "spontaneous tour mode" issues happen twice, both while skiing in bounds. Nothing disastrous, but it did give me a nice surprise and some pucker. I think heavier snow can get packed in there and work its way under the lever, causing it to pop up after a long time. To make this isn't happening, I've been poking the lever with my pole every now and again just to make sure it's locked and haven't had a problem with this since I started doing that.
Addressing the release, yup, it works! I have mine set at 2.5-3 with blue tubes and a pretty hard fall will knock them off (which is right where I want it to be). Haven't had any pre-releases or failures to release. This is a big plus imo over non-NTN bindings and one of the reasons I switched.
Go for 'em.
I've had the same "spontaneous tour mode" issues happen twice, both while skiing in bounds. Nothing disastrous, but it did give me a nice surprise and some pucker. I think heavier snow can get packed in there and work its way under the lever, causing it to pop up after a long time. To make this isn't happening, I've been poking the lever with my pole every now and again just to make sure it's locked and haven't had a problem with this since I started doing that.
Addressing the release, yup, it works! I have mine set at 2.5-3 with blue tubes and a pretty hard fall will knock them off (which is right where I want it to be). Haven't had any pre-releases or failures to release. This is a big plus imo over non-NTN bindings and one of the reasons I switched.
Go for 'em.
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