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Snowmobiles Where They Shouldn't Be- Discussion
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21 years 9 months ago #169339
by Paul Belitz
Replied by Paul Belitz on topic Re: Snowmobiles Where They Shouldn't Be- Discussio
Like the snowmobile-riding 'hiker' suggests, we need more signs. We need to put bright orange signs all over the Easton and Squak, and along the crater, spaced at 25 foot intervals. Due to heavy snowfall, we should have rangers go up there every other day to make sure the signs are not buried. And the signs will have to be relocated occasionally due to glacier creep, but why should that a problem? We also should have parking meters at trailheads, escalators up the Eldorado creek drainage, and mandatory safety meetings every hour, headed by rangers. <br><br>Some guy on teletips suggested the use of
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.<br><br>Other suggestions? Let's just ban recreational snowmobiling.
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21 years 9 months ago #169341
by Charles
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<br><br>While this could be the case in some instances, I know it is not the case for the violations I have seen on the north side of Mt. Adams (unless the machines' drivers can't read). There, bright orange signs have been nailed to trees where the Divide Camp trail leaves the road and enters Wilderness, and the snowmobile tracks have gone right by them. Once above treeline and onto the glaciers, there should be little doubt to anyone that the Wilderness boundary had been passed long before, so I have to conclude that the trespasses were willful.<br><br>Ignorance of the law is not a valid defense in other settings, and I don't see why it should be any different in this circumstance. To be a law-abiding citizen while operating a motor-powered device in the vicinity of a Wilderness boundary requires that the operator know where the boundary is....I am intrigued by the possibility that snowmachiners might actually not be aware of the boundaries beyond which they're forbidden...
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21 years 9 months ago #169342
by jimjar
Replied by jimjar on topic Re: Snowmobiles Where They Shouldn't Be- Discussio
escalators up the Eldorado creek drainage<br><br>I like this idea Paul. Do you think Justin could find them though?
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21 years 9 months ago #169343
by powscraper
Replied by powscraper on topic Re: Snowmobiles Where They Shouldn't Be- Discussio
Oh well sure, I could find them, but that would interfere with splitboarding training!
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21 years 9 months ago #169344
by Paul Belitz
Replied by Paul Belitz on topic Re: Snowmobiles Where They Shouldn't Be- Discussio
<br>Soda out my nose! LMAO.I like this idea Paul. Do you think Justin could find them though?
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21 years 9 months ago #169345
by markharf
Replied by markharf on topic Re: Snowmobiles Where They Shouldn't Be- Discussio
I am not so naive as to believe that more thorough signage will magically resolve all snowmobile boundary violations...but nor am I so naive as to believe that merely complaining loudly will cause snow machines to be banned from all my favorite ski destinations. If Hiker (or others) have constructive suggestions about getting their fellow sledders to follow existing rules with even marginally more dedication, I'm happy to listen. <br><br>Posting photos of weaponry, even in jest, seems remarkably unlikely to enhance the discussion.
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