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Looks like fun. I don't understand the bike shuttle part though. Did you ride your bike from the lot to the top of the skiing? How'd your bike get back down the hill?
author=Mr_Burns link=topic=40836.msg162179#msg162179 date=1530633978]
How does the distance compare for the Spray Park approach vs. Knapsack Pass?
I think the distance is similar. The Spray Park approach is via a nice trail that first goes a bit down and then up. Knapsack Pass is off-trail, up and down, and one needs a good snow coverage. Not sure that is the case in recent years (the coverage).
Looks really great! How does the distance compare for the Spray Park approach vs. Knapsack Pass?
I usually approach Spray Park via the Wonderland Trail so didn't get a look at the climb to Knapsack Pass. Both times I came through Spray Park on the trail the clouds were hanging low and I didn't get a good look at the south side of the pass, unfortunately.
Thank you for the report - the snow looks nice! I suppose the approach through Knapsack Pass is melted out?
Screw the June gloom! Bravo. Really like the shot with Cathedral Rock in the background. Great job wedging it into the schedule - gotta love the PNW where this stuff is readily accessible. Daniel still on my list to ski.
Kamtron- Thats right! Yea now I remember meeting you and crew up there.
Jordan- I think you should be good to go for another week or two easy. esp with these cooler temps. The crossing I used as an exit was, well maybe not "solid", but certainly "healthy".
F#*K car trouble. In fact F*%K cars! So convenient though...
Mike- I've dredged much useful Beta from these pages. Happy to provide a bit in return.
Jordan- I think you should be good to go for another week or two easy. esp with these cooler temps. The crossing I used as an exit was, well maybe not "solid", but certainly "healthy".
F#*K car trouble. In fact F*%K cars! So convenient though...
Mike- I've dredged much useful Beta from these pages. Happy to provide a bit in return.
I don't think I'd have the nerve to ski your lines solo. Thanks for sharing!
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Thanks guys, it's good to be back out in the mountains! You're right Nick, Baker is next, and I'll let you know when I'm heading up there Mr. Burns.
Pretty strong comeback trip Jim. Well done. Worth moving north and doing Squak with some Scott Paul hiking. Bring your skins!
author=Eckels link=topic=40824.msg162144#msg162144 date=1529965205]
Looks like a great trip! Any photos looking toward cache col and Magic? Was thinking of doing the Magic S loop first week of July and/or putting up a base camp in Petlon Basin.
No close ups, but I cropped this from a pano:

You can find the full resolution panorama at http://myselph.de/mys...
Yes there were only small shenanigans encountered, for the time of year, and the steeper angled slopes were smooth.
It was super cool to see the large goat herd on the move in the distance!
Here are a few images from the venture. One photo is a nice capture of the faaar awaaaay...goats by Jim.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/11723786@N06/albums/72157698389725335
It was super cool to see the large goat herd on the move in the distance!
Here are a few images from the venture. One photo is a nice capture of the faaar awaaaay...goats by Jim.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/11723786@N06/albums/72157698389725335
How much longer do you figure the Bergshrund will be in on the lower NFNWR route? Was hoping to hit that route this last weekend but car troubles intervened. Fingers crossed it stays in until this next weekend!
Looks like a great trip! Any photos looking toward cache col and Magic? Was thinking of doing the Magic S loop first week of July and/or putting up a base camp in Petlon Basin.
Glad to see you're back on it, Jim- Happy Trails!
author=YoKid link=topic=40826.msg162140#msg162140 date=1529957110]
Last time I skied on this side we ascended via divide camp TR and then booted up the NWR. I liked that method for some reasons but decided there was too much risk of getting sluffed off the mountain either by natural wet slides or by skiers on their way down. On that trip we crossed paths with another group who were headed down and they(as well as ourselves) were pushing huge rivers of wet slid...
Kamtron- still surprisingly smooth up there. Even all the way down to 7k there is hardly any sun cupping. Go get it!
I think a tent would be wise, if not for the mosquitos then for the mice. Ha
Big Tuna, I like it! I figured that snowfield would have a name. I climbed via the ridge proper both times on this trip. Such a funky route but yea nice in that it minimizes overhead exposure. I've read a number of folks here on TAY recommending sneakers for the climb but I...
I think a tent would be wise, if not for the mosquitos then for the mice. Ha
Big Tuna, I like it! I figured that snowfield would have a name. I climbed via the ridge proper both times on this trip. Such a funky route but yea nice in that it minimizes overhead exposure. I've read a number of folks here on TAY recommending sneakers for the climb but I...
Thanks for the report! Conditions look ideal, besides the mosquito factor. Reason enough for a tent, eh?
On my first visit to the N side, I also took the line you climbed (or just skied?) up the variously-named "Big Tuna" or "Genie" snowfield. We ended up climbing a pitch of low-5th class but solid rock to gain the lower angled choss fields directly above. It's probably one of the proudest leads I've done, since it was in ski boots with one slung knob for...
On my first visit to the N side, I also took the line you climbed (or just skied?) up the variously-named "Big Tuna" or "Genie" snowfield. We ended up climbing a pitch of low-5th class but solid rock to gain the lower angled choss fields directly above. It's probably one of the proudest leads I've done, since it was in ski boots with one slung knob for...
On the drive home I was treated to a better vantage of my route from Saturday evening. Drawn line is actually just below my path so that the snow patches are visible. Zone of much uncertainty.
Thanks for the report! I think my son and I saw you starting up the trail to Comet Falls as we drove by on our way to Paradise.
We skied to Camp Muir and descended Nisqually Chute. Carried the skis up the hiker trail above Glacier Vista (Panorama face is melted out) then continuous skinning to Muir.
Upper Muir snowfield had a somewhat rough surface due either to boot tracks or old ski tracks that stood out as ridges. Nisqually Chute skied okay, though a little rough due to...
We skied to Camp Muir and descended Nisqually Chute. Carried the skis up the hiker trail above Glacier Vista (Panorama face is melted out) then continuous skinning to Muir.
Upper Muir snowfield had a somewhat rough surface due either to boot tracks or old ski tracks that stood out as ridges. Nisqually Chute skied okay, though a little rough due to...
author=kamtron link=topic=40816.msg162131#msg162131 date=1529904883]
P.S. Mike, is that first shot of yours taken with a zoom from Peggy's Pond?
Glad you went! I took that photo from the trail around Cathedral, prior to Peggy's Pond.
We went in yesterday and came out today. I can say definitively that it would take more dedication than most, and rockier rock skis than most, to get to Squaw lake at the moment. Especially in the "pretty long carry" around the bottom of Cathedral Rock. Recommend switching back to your tennis shoes for that.
Still, great skiing was had! The corn was delightful, as well as the camping vibes and ambience. Thanks for the inspiration.
P.S. Mike, is that first shot of...
Still, great skiing was had! The corn was delightful, as well as the camping vibes and ambience. Thanks for the inspiration.
P.S. Mike, is that first shot of...
Silas,you have to be alert,sometimes you might encounter a cleavasse skiing this terrain. ::)
When pictures are unavailable, reports giving conditions which include metrics along with universally understood analogic descriptive language is always useful.
How did you find out that the road was open for bikes? In years past I could find that info on the web somewhere, but I can't find it this year.
I actually found this a useful visual frame of reference .
How long will a thread discussing cup size survive the censorious moderator?
author=John Morrow link=topic=40816.msg162119#msg162119 date=1529585079]
Boulder Creek bridge is weakened by undercutting and has a reduced load limit. The toilet pumping truck cannot make it across to pump out the full toilets at the TH due to the weight of the truck. Hence the locked toilets.
I rescind my criticism. :)
author=pipedream link=topic=40816.msg162117#msg162117 date=1529528426...
Boulder Creek bridge is weakened by undercutting and has a reduced load limit. The toilet pumping truck cannot make it across to pump out the full toilets at the TH due to the weight of the truck. Hence the locked toilets.
A friend of mine was over last night and this TR came up in conversation. He claimed there was no "Squaw Lake" and doubted your report of continuous snow from it. I pulled my Green Trails maps out, unfolded the Stevens Pass one and pointed right at it. i suggested he ditch whatever maps (or app) he was using and go buy a physical one that's a little more accurate ;D
author=ps44 link=topic=40816.msg162115#msg162115 date=1529511828]
What is the snow coverage/availability of snow free camping patches around Peggys pond?
The lake is still frozen and the surrounding area is still snow covered, but I bet you could find a flat spot under a tree that would be dry.
Snow looks great; thanks for the report!
What is the snow coverage/availability of snow free camping patches around Peggys pond?
What is the snow coverage/availability of snow free camping patches around Peggys pond?
Cool bear Frank! I think he was just looking to play.
In answer to the PMs, snow started above the comet falls and continuous a bit before tree line, but not much before.
In answer to the PMs, snow started above the comet falls and continuous a bit before tree line, but not much before.
author=frankfrank link=topic=40812.msg162106#msg162106 date=1529354640]
And I'll report a bear on the Fryingpan. I surprised it once as I climbed over a rock on my way to the summit of Whitman Crest, and then after it had wandered off here and there for a while, it started to move toward my location again, so I called out to remind it I was still there. This worked, but unfortunately, the new direction it chose down the glacier was directly toward the nex...
author=myikat link=topic=40812.msg162108#msg162108 date=1529372718]
Does make you wonder what they are looking for up there. Maybe just getting away from the heat.
The temps were actually quite comfortable lower down and there was a cold breeze on the glacier. So it's a good question what was the bear after. Must be their propensity to explore widely to find a source of food; there were goat tracks above Summerland as the on...
author=kamtron link=topic=40812.msg162099#msg162099 date=1529339033]
Looking forward to the Valley road opening up.
The Paradise Valley Road opened ahead of schedule this morning:Â https://twitter.com/MountRainierNPS/status/1008855099072892934
While on the Interglacier it appeared there was some fresh snow that had recently been heat treated. Smooth and easy skiing. Not many other skiers. Clouds moved in mid-afternoon and got our butts moving. Good strong hailstorm caught us on the way back to the lot. If it had kept up a bit longer we could have put the skis back on and skied down the trail.
Does make you wonder what they are looking for up there. Maybe just getting away from the heat.
And I'll report a bear on the Fryingpan. I surprised it once as I climbed over a rock on my way to the summit of Whitman Crest, and then after it had wandered off here and there for a while, it started to move toward my location again, so I called out to remind it I was still there. This worked, but unfortunately, the new direction it chose down the glacier was directly toward the next party of two ascending skiers, out of sight over a roll. Comically, I had a perspective on the whole thing...
author=Zap link=topic=40815.msg162103#msg162103 date=1529345011]
Nice trip report and photo. We're way up in Glacier National Park. Trying to find some high elevation snow.
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Thanks, Zap. Glacier is a beautiful place to be. I hope you're able to find some good snow.
Nice trip report and photo. We're way up in Glacier National Park. Trying to find some high elevation snow.
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No change yesterday, except the road closure looks like its on a less annoying ~15 minute light cycle for the weekend. Waited 0 and 8 minutes. Fun skiing from the car! Glad the clouds kept the temps down in the early afternoon.
Reporting in from near top of van trump where goats outnumbered folks, thought those first thunderclaps went off right above me. Fun turns tho a bit grabby, almost went over the handlebars once or twice.