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Grip wax on Telemark skiis?
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1. Blue Extra - for cold snow
2. Swix VR 70 - for warm snow or for lots of grip (and still good glide) on colder snow. I
used this today and it climbed like I had skins on and still had good glide, better than
my waxless skis yesterday. This is one of the new generation of race waxes and is
much more tolerant than the older series of waxes for this temperature range.
3. Swix Universal Silver klister. Use it for warm corn snow or very wet rain soaked snow.
The silver (powdered aluminum) keeps it less tacky and helps repel dirt (as in the
spring).
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I think perhaps a lot of people get frustrated & give up on this venerable technique because it can take a short distance (usually just a few hundred yards or less) for the wax to begin gripping effectively. A common scenario is for folks to choose the 'correct' wax, but it slips initially and they rewax & then clog up. A bit of stove fuel, an old toothbrush, zip-locks & papertowels might be good to have along while you're learning.
If you study XC racing literature, you'll find waxing graphs with temperature on one axis and moisture content on the other. My experience has been that a slightly stickier (softer) wax than that suggested by the temperature alone often works best in maritime snow. I've had really good results with Swix special (blue-stripe) purple. If the conditions require red or klister, I don't bother & just use skins or pattern bases.
Contamination of skin glue by the grip wax seems inevitable if you use both. The best solution I've found is separate sets of skins: an older mixed use set that must be cleaned & re-glued more often, plus 'pure' skins that never go on grip-waxed skis.
Another way to mitigate glue contamination is to only wax for a couple feet right under the bindings so as to keep the tip & tail adhesive cleaner. Waxing just a short 'kicker' rather than the entire ski may also preserve better glide if your wax is a bit too soft.
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Judging from the authors I see on this thread there's probably at least a 100 years experience in ski waxing here; far more than any author of any book you could find on the subject, and probably a lot more cool tricks on the subject as well. Where else could one find such a great resource on ski waxing in PNW maritime snopacks.
And speaking of great, experienced resources, it's great to have you aboard, vogtski.
Thanks for your contribution and we'll hope to see more.
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Let me suggest as a 3 wax kit, suitable for western Washington conditions:
1. Blue Extra - for cold snow
2. Swix VR 70 - for warm snow or for lots of grip (and still good glide) on colder snow. I
used this today and it climbed like I had skins on and still had good glide, better than
my waxless skis yesterday. This is one of the new generation of race waxes and is
much more tolerant than the older series of waxes for this temperature range.
3. Swix Universal Silver klister. Use it for warm corn snow or very wet rain soaked snow.
The silver (powdered aluminum) keeps it less tacky and helps repel dirt (as in the
spring).
Hey SB -- any experience with Swix VR 60 ?
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