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A question for the old-timers. Have you seen a year like this?
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5 years 4 days ago #234689
by Chamois
Replied by Chamois on topic A question for the old-timers. Have you seen a year like this?
Been skiing around here for 30 years, don't get out as much as I used to -- but this is a weird one. What I've especially noticed in the past decade is that the variability is up, particularly below 5k feet. Cheers, be safe.
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5 years 2 hours ago #234705
by Lowell_Skoog
Replied by Lowell_Skoog on topic A question for the old-timers. Have you seen a year like this?
I think it's likely there have been years like this one, but we notice it particularly this year because:
a) There are more backcountry skiers to notice these things now.
b) Lift skiing isn't the attractive alternative it used to be.
I've been backcountry skiing since the late 1970s, but for most of those years I did most of my mid-winter skiing on the lifts. Backcountry skiing was mainly a spring activity for me. That's still true, to some extent, but in recent years lift skiing has become less appealing because of increased crowding. With COVID-19 crowd restrictions, it's even more severe this year. I've been getting out quite a bit this year, but it's been almost entirely XC skiing with my partner and uphill skinning sessions by myself at a convenient ski area.
The various patterns we've seen this year--heavy rains, cold snaps, epic dumps--aren't by any means unusual. But having them all in sequence is noteworthy, if not really surprising. I recall that the epic snow year of 1999 was predicted by some to have massive avalanche problems, but it didn't really happen because the snowfall and temperature regime was relatively consistent through the winter. So we just ended up with a huge snowpack without many discontinuities in it.
a) There are more backcountry skiers to notice these things now.
b) Lift skiing isn't the attractive alternative it used to be.
I've been backcountry skiing since the late 1970s, but for most of those years I did most of my mid-winter skiing on the lifts. Backcountry skiing was mainly a spring activity for me. That's still true, to some extent, but in recent years lift skiing has become less appealing because of increased crowding. With COVID-19 crowd restrictions, it's even more severe this year. I've been getting out quite a bit this year, but it's been almost entirely XC skiing with my partner and uphill skinning sessions by myself at a convenient ski area.
The various patterns we've seen this year--heavy rains, cold snaps, epic dumps--aren't by any means unusual. But having them all in sequence is noteworthy, if not really surprising. I recall that the epic snow year of 1999 was predicted by some to have massive avalanche problems, but it didn't really happen because the snowfall and temperature regime was relatively consistent through the winter. So we just ended up with a huge snowpack without many discontinuities in it.
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4 years 11 months ago - 4 years 11 months ago #234776
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The snow cover was really big this year.
Last edit: 4 years 11 months ago by Enthuziastish.
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4 years 11 months ago #234826
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Replied by kamtron on topic A question for the old-timers. Have you seen a year like this?
Went looking for this and, due to NWAC website failure, found it on the wayback machine:
web.archive.org/web/20170623162555/http:...ty-high-consequence/
web.archive.org/web/20170623162555/http:...ty-high-consequence/
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4 years 11 months ago #234831
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Replied by Carbonj on topic A question for the old-timers. Have you seen a year like this?
Great job finding that, I remember Forest McBrian writing something in that vein possibly that year, the sleeping dragon is out there.
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4 years 10 months ago - 4 years 10 months ago #234876
by alexaben
Replied by alexaben on topic A question for the old-timers. Have you seen a year like this?
No doubt I don't feel
great
, particularly being up in Bellingham and skiing Baker now. A ton of open, elevated territory.
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