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9 years 1 month ago #151717 by Charlie Hagedorn
Replied by Charlie Hagedorn on topic Re: Group Dynamics, skiing with irregulars...
For pure efficiency, I've found no substitute for a trusted regular ski partner. Someone who you know, trust, and have a long-time rapport with can make decision making fast, efficient, and reliable. It takes a long time to find a good one, someone who thinks a lot like you do; they're rare.

Regulars or irregulars, I'm now becoming convinced that a proper morning meeting that addresses most major concerns, airs everyone's goals, determines plans and alternates, and comes up with an emergency plan actually lets you have a better time and go faster once you're in the field. If someone isn't a team player enough to give a fifteen minute meeting over coffee or a McMuffin a try, we probably don't want to tour with them anyway.

When conditions and the plan are simple, a morning meeting goes fast. When they're not, it's more efficient to chat about it when you're warm, rested, and happy than cold, tired, and cranky.

Also, you can't reasonably expect to push your own performance envelope with a new partner.

Streamline effective communication, ski more pow, have better adventures.

On the conservative point - ya gotta roll with the most conservative party member's concerns. It might save your life, and will certainly help the conservative party member feel like they're on a team and build some mutual trust. You can always get rad tomorrow with a different partner.

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9 years 1 month ago #151724 by mikerolfs
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On the conservative point - ya gotta roll with the most conservative party member's concerns. It might save your life, and will certainly help the conservative party member feel like they're on a team and build some mutual trust. You can always get rad tomorrow with a different partner.


Amen to that! I always feel grateful when I say "I don't want to ski that", and my partner says "Then we won't ski that".  And since I appreciate it so much when others do it for me, it's easier for me to do it for them. Even when I really want to ski it.

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9 years 1 month ago #151740 by Koda
good replies, essentially they tell me I'm on the right path and when skiing with others its just the way it is there is no magic way to get someone on the same page as you and the important thing is to work within everyones abilities by identifying the most conservative person and working within their comfort level. I think what might make those trips go more efficiently is to learn how to identify that early, ideally the morning meeting.

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9 years 1 month ago #151759 by T. Eastman
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Part of my thinking is based on this premise:

If I wouldn't ski something by myself...

... why would I want to drag anyone else along?

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9 years 1 month ago #151965 by NWAC
NWAC is holding an evening of continuing education on exactly this topic on Thursday, Jan. 12. All of the workshops in the Going Deep Series are designed to improve decision making for those with experience in the backcountry - but this one will focus specifically on Teamwork and communication.

Tickets here: www.rei.com/events/going-deep-series-a-v...ation/seattle/160850

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9 years 1 month ago #151969 by Charlie Hagedorn
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Thanks for the reminder -- just signed up!

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