Group Dynamics, skiing with irregulars...

I have had only a few people I have simply clicked with while ski touring, regarding our group dynamics between the two of us. Despite any gear, fitness, experience differences we each understand each others decision’s and thought processes and when we make choices in the field they are most always in line with each other. I get the most skiing in, and accomplish the most objectives successfully, thus touring with these individuals Ive preferred just being the two of us.

But then there is the others... the rest of the people you know who tour but you dont ski with as often. Often not always in agreement as the tour/day unfolds and decision’s are made and differences are discovered we spend more time talking about it. It adds up to slower travel, altered plans or route, less accomplished, less skiing and often bailing on the objective for various reasons mostly due to running out of time. Typically I often default, as a courtesy, to accommodating the most conservative member of the group… I feel that risk factor comes to play in this and I don’t want to influence someone to do something they are not comfortable with especially with stability considerations. How does everyone handle this scenario?

There was a day back when people loved to talk about this stuff. Is TAY dead?

Communication, communication, communication

Speak up in the parking lot interview segment of the day when you're all checking transiever range (hopefully)! Any more than 1 partner becomes complex . Add a few and it can deteriorate out of control. If subdivision happens get every ones plans down. Don't get above or below others in avy. terrain . Exchange vital info ! If you have a list of golden rules regarding best safety practices and protocols , STICK WITH THEM ! No matter how many certifications or levels your new partners have achieved . Don't become a hueristic statistic. Remember ,the most dangerous B.C. segment to ski with are professional skiers on there days off. Hopefully there are many knowledgable contributors to help you on this forum. This message has been approved by SKIER-X.

I find it's easiest if someone is the alpha. Today you are skiing with me. Tomorrow, I'm skiing with you. That way, the inconsequential decisions don't require discussion. When I'm in charge, I tell you where I want to go, and as long as you are okay with it, discussion over. We can talk minutia on the way. When it really doesn't matter left or right, it's way easier to defer to the leader (for me at least) than to discuss how we all feel about it. Similar to menu selections. Anything you order will taste good. Let one guy pick.

If we aren't equals, if someone is along for the ride and just trusting that I won't get them in trouble, then I'm going to be the alpha and point out hazards and I'll be an instructor. These tours are less satisfying to me. Its not skiing with a partner, its just taking someone on a tour.

Koda, good on you for expressing what you desire in your day and how you ensure the decision in a group is deferential to the most conservative member. That's honorable, the way to be, and not always so much fun. So helpful to get to know people in basically all other situations, like socially, then mountain biking, trail running, surfing, etc., as well as talking about comfort levels/perspectives, before being out there in it. Sizing each other up as potential partners is underrated and underutilized. Totally expected that people have different capabilities, expectations, ambitions, and risk thresholds. Totally ok to like it how you like it with who you go with.