February 22, 2014, Chair Peak Large Avalanche

I started this post by saying "I'd like to see the report on here..."

Since then there has been two pages of posts - mostly critical of being below Chair Peak in such a position - at this level of avalanche danger.

Lots of others, however, have been non-committal and wanting to see what those involved had to say.

Others have said we should refrain from any criticism or judgements, so that there was a supportive place where people could share their observations.

I like all of these responses, and hope that everyone continues as they have. I've been on this site for a few years now, and have never seen anyone get way out of hand. I used to be on rec.climbing during it's heyday, and know what bad flaming and trolling is all about. That doesn't really happen here. I think there are enough people here that know we are really all idiots - so they always give some slack no matter what. There are also many others who say "WTF - what were you thinking"

It's great to be supportive and non-judgemental so that people feel free to share. It's also important that someone has the nerve to ask the hard questions, and even level criticism from time to time. Being a community doesn't mean we always have to love each other. But is is nice when we are reasonable civil. I always try to be pretty good here because I know I'm an idiot, I've often had bad judgement, and despite many years of doing this, I still don't really know when something will slide.

If the group that was in that stupid, dangerous position reads this.... We really do want to know why - as most think it's instructive.

Just for the record, I remember rambling around in a near whiteout without a compass or map and trying to climb Snoqualmie Peak. I'm absolutely certain we had no idea of the Avy danger, no idea what we were under, and I'm sure we didn't have more than 3 or 4 of the ten essentials. My old partner might read this and remember the facts differently - but he's an idiot too!

Cross-link for future readers -- the reporting party posted a trip report here:

www.turns-all-year.com/skiing_snowboardi...ex.php?topic=30926.0

Of course they visit this site, one of them posted in yardsale and random tracks about their splitter and pair skis they lost in the slide.

this one appeared more urgent, those dudes just wanted to get right back at it.
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I've seen that ''rog'' refference before,what is it about?

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this one appeared more urgent, those dudes just wanted to get right back at it.

Ya think maybe they just wanted to get their skis back like anyone would?   Seriously you all need to move on.

Ya think maybe they just wanted to get their skis back like anyone would?   Seriously you all need to move on.

LOL!! Well done, sir.

This topic will be hard to let die off this week with little good skiing to be found in this crap weather. That's just the reality of the matter I do believe